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    Does phera plex causes hair loss?

    I been wanting to do a phera-plex cycle but I have been reading some forums and some say it causes hair loss.

    I know that is 1.5 or 2.5 stronger than superdrol, does this makes it harsher to the scalp?

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    i never had any problems only with 1-ad, 1-test, 4-ad did i ever "shed" really bad

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    It's a strong androgen so there will always be the possibility of hairloss. I'm starting my phera plex cycle on Friday so I'll be able to give you some practical input later.

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    What have you run so far papi???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    What have you run so far papi???
    Friday will be the first day with the Phera Plex. I'll be taking 20mg ED for 4 weeks. I will be supplementing with the Perfect Cycle, Niacin, and Fish Oil capsules, while using the Phera Plex.
    For 4 weeks of PCT, I'll use the Perfect Cycle, Niacin, Fish Oil, Retain, and PCT. My cardio and blood pressure support is lacking, any other must haves?

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    thanks Papi93, we hope everything goes well. One thing to consider, are you prone to hairloss.. genetics...etc.,,,,?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mario_ps2
    thanks Papi93, we hope everything goes well. One thing to consider, are you prone to hairloss.. genetics...etc.,,,,?
    I'm not prone to hair loss but I am prone to acne .

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    i mean steroid wise???

    Is this gonna be your first???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    For 4 weeks of PCT, I'll use the Perfect Cycle, Niacin, Fish Oil, Retain, and PCT. My cardio and blood pressure support is lacking, any other must haves?
    Papi93, I am just curious, but why did you decide to go this OTC route with your PCT rather than using Nolva, Clomid, & Arimidex ?

    I was just wondering how you compare the different PCT options and why you decided on the one above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    i mean steroid wise???

    Is this gonna be your first???
    Before I got on this site, I had college football buddy of mine hook me up with some finaplix transdermal. Great lean gains but, as I know now, killed my libido.

    I have used the prohormones 4AD and 1AD, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmax
    Papi93, I am just curious, but why did you decide to go this OTC route with your PCT rather than using Nolva, Clomid, & Arimidex ?

    I was just wondering how you compare the different PCT options and why you decided on the one above.
    I wanted to see if Anabolic Xtreme's products produce. I would like to do a comparison on their effectiveness to nolva, clomid, and arimidex. I realize the research chems are superior but I wanted to experiment.

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    i am prone and had none on pp

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    Thanks Zedly for your information..

    How were your gains? Strength?

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    bump for more responses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Before I got on this site, I had college football buddy of mine hook me up with some finaplix transdermal. Great lean gains but, as I know now, killed my libido.

    I have used the prohormones 4AD and 1AD, as well.

    you do realize that pheraplex is a progestin, same as trenbolone and nandrolone ?

    would like to see what justification is given for using an aromatase inhibitor(PCT or rebound xt) with a non aromatic 17 methylated progestin (pheraplex).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    I wanted to see if Anabolic Xtreme's products produce. I would like to do a comparison on their effectiveness to nolva, clomid, and arimidex. I realize the research chems are superior but I wanted to experiment.
    ATD is quite effective, it just has very poor oral bioavailability and short half life apprx 3hrs (vs 24hrs for aromasin ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    you do realize that pheraplex is a progestin, same as trenbolone and nandrolone ?

    would like to see what justification is given for using an aromatase inhibitor(PCT or rebound xt) with a non aromatic 17 methylated progestin (pheraplex).
    Phera Plex claims you will have an increased libido while on Phera Plex. I was thinking of stacking 4AD with it until I read that.

    Here is Anabolic Xtreme's justification for including PCT in a phera plex PCT:

    http : // anabolic xtreme . com / store / pct . html

    Isn't estrogen levels still high, with a progestin, during PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Phera Plex claims you will have an increased libido while on Phera Plex. I was thinking of stacking 4AD with it until I read that.

    Here is Anabolic Xtreme's justification for including PCT in a phera plex PCT:

    http : // anabolic xtreme . com / store / pct . html

    Isn't estrogen levels still high, with a progestin, during PCT?
    NO

    sorry. In fact progestins typically severely suppress the HPTA> A serm like nolva would be better as a standalone in this case (or any progestin alone cycle).

    Ideally SERM + AI + low dose HCG (which is why you need the AI to suppress oestrogen feedback from hormonal spikes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    NO

    sorry. In fact progestins typically severely suppress the HPTA> A serm like nolva would be better as a standalone in this case (or any progestin alone cycle).

    Ideally SERM + AI + low dose HCG (which is why you need the AI to suppress oestrogen feedback from hormonal spikes)
    40-60 mg nolva, 0.25mg arimidex , and 4 pills of Redkat (as a substitute for HCG - can't find any) would be a better PCT. I remember you said that an AI like arimidex can make cholesterol worse during PCT. Which is already a concern. If I ran nolva at 40-60, would this SERM counteract the effects on cholesterol to some degree?

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    Remember that testosterone is made from cholesterol so you do want to have some, especially when you body is trying to produce ~4x the normal amount due to ATD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky87
    Remember that testosterone is made from cholesterol so you do want to have some, especially when you body is trying to produce ~4x the normal amount due to ATD
    I remember reading an article by Westside's Louie Simmons where he made a similar comment. Much of the cholesterol in his diet is turned into testosterone .

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