Fastest acting supplements - Mass AND cutting

[Big_Dan]

So far Ive tried the following

Proteins

Myoplex (takes the medal)
Designer
Optimum


Fat loss
Xenadrine (ephedra containing) Amounted to nothing because I did no cardio
And currently Im in the process of taking xenadrine efedra free.


Bulking
Celltech (takes the medal)
Scitech (second place)
Normal creatine (with maltodextrin and or grape juice)

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[physio_sport]

my award for fatloss products have to goto prolab cuts 3 and metabolic thyrolean because i have a friend who is the laziest person in the world he does no cardio and lives 30 sec away from the gyn(im not joking) but he insists that he takes his car so he drives like 30 meters to the gym. now he took them and in 3 weeks lost 9lb.