good novice cycle?

**flexgolf** · 05-10-2003, 02:03 PM

Hey fellas,
im looking to start my first cycle. ive been doin my share of research on the education threads and the main page. here is my first cycle...taken partially from the "cycles for the novice" link on the main page. let me know what you think of this.

week 1: DECA -DUR/100MG
week 2: DECA-DUR/200MG
week 3: DECA-DUR/200MG
week 4: DECA-DUR/200MG (25 mg proviron daily)
week 5: DECA-DUR/200MG (25 mg proviron daily)
week 6: DECA-DUR/200MG (25 mg proviron daily)
week 7: DECA-DUR/200MG (25 mg proviron daily)
week 8: DECA-DUR/100MG (25 mg proviron daily)
-in week 9: (25 mg proviron daily), 5000 i.u. of HCG taken once a day for 3 days. After those 3 days, 5000 i.u. of HCG taken once every 5 days for 15 days. after the last injection of HCG, clomid is taken over 2 weeks. 50 mg of clomid a day.
-note that im using anit-estrogens through the majority of the weeks to supress the estrogen, instead of simply blocking it with novadex. i think it have faster gains using novadex to block the estrogen receptors, but i dont want a large waterfall of cortisone when i finish my deca so id like to treat the counter the estrogen as i go isntead of blocking the receptors. any tips, hints, opinions?

-im 21 years old, 5'10, 170 pounds, ive been lifting for 3 years and id like to put on over 7 poundsof muscle over the summer. preferably 10 pounds of muscle.

**damiongage** · 05-10-2003, 02:38 PM

lots of problems with that cycle IMO

1.dont taper deca
2. deca dosage to low
3. wheres the test
4.I dont know if the "novice cycle" section has been updated
but the last time I looked it was way off.

mabye need to do some more research

**flexgolf** · 05-10-2003, 02:42 PM

thanx for the reply
i think it must have been updated a long time ago. i believe it said somewhere that 200 is ok for a first timer. what do u reccomend for the deca dosage? ive also heard that it shouldnt be tapered but it was contradictory to the novice section...but i can fix that. is a test a necessity?

**damiongage** · 05-10-2003, 04:52 PM

most vets say 300-400mg of deca a wk depending on stats
and yes test should be the base of every cycle.Deca and no test=deca dick. Most recommended is

wk1-10 300-400mg deca
wk1-10 500mg test eth or cyp

more detailed advice can be givng by senior members
but they will need more info.(age,sats, how long lifting, and goals)

**flexgolf** · 05-10-2003, 05:07 PM

here is my revised cycle...i appreciate all the help. good lookin out damiongage.

week 1: DECA -DUR/300MG 500mg test eth
week 2: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth
week 3: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth
week 4: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth (25 mg proviron daily)
week 5: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth (25 mg proviron daily)
week 6: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth (25 mg proviron daily)
week 7: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth (25 mg proviron daily)
week 8: DECA-DUR/300MG 500mg test eth (25 mg proviron daily)
-in week 9: (25 mg proviron daily), 5000 i.u. of HCG taken once a day for 3 days. After those 3 days, 5000 i.u. of HCG taken once every 5 days for 15 days. after the last injection of HCG, clomid is taken over 2 weeks. 50 mg of clomid a day.

-i only weigh 170 pounds and ive never taken a cycle. so i think 300 should be enough. the main page says that 200 should be sufficient, but ive heard from more than one person that i should do more. any comments on my cycle or other revisions i should make?

**arthurb999** · 05-11-2003, 09:22 AM

Here you go bro.

300 mg deca a week for 9 weeks
500 mg test a week for 10 weeks
0.25 mg arimidex everyday weeks 1-12
Clomid starts week 13... 100 mg a day for 10 days then 50 mg a day for another 10 days
**Break the shot into 2 a week containing 150mg deca and 250mg test say on Sun and Wed.

Eat 4000+ cals and 300+ grams of protien a day, drink 1.5 gals of water a day, train with maximum intensity and heavy, and get 8 hours of sleep a night. That's all there is too it.