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    Austinite's Acne Treatment Protocol - (1 Vitamin, 1 Mineral, 1 Herb)

    There's been quite a few threads regarding acne and how everyone treats it. I'll explain what I've done to keep acne under control and go into a bit of detail on how it actually works. I typically only get acne on some cycles, but once in awhile I'll change my diet and get hit with some acne. Keep in mind, while the evidence is there, your experience may vary. Severity of acne could be affect how well this protocol may work. But this will be a great place to start and whether it cures your acne or not, it will certainly minimize it. It's not a guessing game, it works.

    It's important to understand that nothing happens overnight. Even prescription medication is not a magical-instant-cure. However, this will allow those who don't have access to prescription medication to supplement with Over-the-Counter products at a cost effective price.

    WHAT YOU WILL NEED:

    - Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic acid)
    - Zinc (Preferably Zinc Picolinate)
    - Pycnogenol (Optional)


    HOW EACH INGREDIENT WORKS:

    Vitamin B5:
    Large doses of this vitamin will reduce the size of your pores. It also causes the body to metabolize fats more effectively, inevitably resulting in less oil and sebum in the skin. That's it on B5. Simple and to the point.

    Zinc:
    This is crucial so I will go more in depth here. Acne is a symptom of Zinc deficiency, which is not uncommon. Over 30% of the population is deficient. Zinc is a vehicle for Vitamin A, and leads it to your skin, which makes for healthier skin. It supports the immune system so it acts like an antibiotic.

    Naturally, skin cells die. But they don't die and renew efficiently if you're Zinc deficient. This process is called apoptosis. Without Zinc, skin cells bind together and slows down the shedding of your skin. This will clog your pores. Not good for acne. Even Accutane has an ingredient (isotretinoin) that helps facilitate apoptosis. This gives you a clear idea of the power of Zinc.

    Pycnogenol:
    I've been using this one for a while now. But I'll be honest, I never took it for it's skin-care properties. Recently spoke to a dermatologist friend of mine and she endorsed this drug for healthy skin. She told me that it has certainly played a major role in keeping me acne free. (I see her for skin pigmentation, not acne) - Note that I have developed slight acne while on this drug, which is when I kick in B5 and Zinc. The 3 work together so well and virtually eliminate all spots. Without it, my acne could have been out of control.

    The way it works is by binding to collagen. It increases oxygen delivery and decreases carbon dioxide. This results in much healthier skin. It also increases elasticity and minimizes wrinkles. Away from the skin, it works in the background by allowing for better blood flow (increasing vessel size), thus delivering more nutrients through your bloodstream. Like I said, it's optional because the other 2 may just do the trick, but this one just might seal the deal. This is the most expensive of all three supplements, another reason to keep it optional.

    THE TREATMENT PROTOCOL:

    If your acne is severe, for your first week you will need to frontload these compounds to give your body a boost in the right direction, after that we're going to move onto standard dosing and maintenance. If your acne is not severe, skip week 1 and start with the standard dosing protocol.

    Week 1 (if acne is not severe, skip to week 2):

    Vitamin B5
    : 14 grams (7 gr in the morning, and 7 gr before bed)
    Zinc: 100 mg daily (50mg in the morning, and 50mg before bed)
    Pycnogenol: 240 mg (120mg in the morning, and 120mg before bed)

    Week 2 (start here if your acne is not severe):

    Vitamin B5: 10 grams (5 gr in the morning, and 5 gr before bed)
    Zinc: 50mg daily (25mg in the morning, and 25mg before bed)
    Pycnogenol: 120 mg (60mg in the morning, and 60mg before bed)

    Repeat week 2 until acne clears...

    Note: All 3 supplements are water soluble.

    Run the above protocol until your acne has cleared. Generally, you can expect to see improvements after 2 weeks, and you can expect to be pretty clear from acne in about 6 weeks. Again, everyone is different but for OTC treatment, this works well and reasonably fast. Note that you may experience some oily skin during your first 10 days. This will go away.

    SIDE EFFECTS:

    Hair Loss (if you're prone):
    Prevention/Fix: L-Cysteine. 1 gr daily.

    Stomach Discomfort:
    Prevention/Fix: Cut B5 dose in half and increase by 1 gr daily so that you adjust to the mega-dose.

    Oily Skin:
    Prevention/Fix: This is normal and will go away in about 10 days. You're just getting cleaned up.


    Good luck and stay clear!
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    Man you are a natural supplement guru. Thanks.

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    Despite zinc picolinate's high absorption rate, I keep reading that zinc orotate's absorption rate is even higher. What are the reasons you prefer zinc picolinate then?

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    ^ Either one is fine, I only chose it because that's what "NOW" products makes so you can use all 3 from one manufacturer.
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    A Topical solution once the acne is already manifested and you want to get rid of it.fast:
    Scrub area until it bleeds, meaning you get all of the 'caps' off of these ugly mushrooms. swab the whole area with 91% IPA. Cover with a damp cloth that you can throw away, until the cloth dries. When you pull it off the scabs will go with it. Rub with alcohol again. Leave uncovered. Rub daily 3-5x.

    This made my very bad upper arm acne go away within 4 days. You have to make sure this is an area you can cover up because it isn't pretty but it works quickly. Hurts like a mf too. But it works.

    I'm going to try what you posted here for prevention when on my next cycle Austinite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    A Topical solution once the acne is already manifested and you want to get rid of it.fast:
    Scrub area until it bleeds, meaning you get all of the 'caps' off of these ugly mushrooms. swab the whole area with 91% IPA. Cover with a damp cloth that you can throw away, until the cloth dries. When you pull it off the scabs will go with it. Rub with alcohol again. Leave uncovered. Rub daily 3-5x.

    This made my very bad upper arm acne go away within 4 days. You have to make sure this is an area you can cover up because it isn't pretty but it works quickly. Hurts like a mf too. But it works.

    I'm going to try what you posted here for prevention when on my next cycle Austinite.
    Some topicals work, but they do nothing for the folks that can't reach their back. Besides, this is painless
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    I like pain reminds me that I'm alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    I like pain reminds me that I'm alive.
    lol, keep that in the bedroom!
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    dont diss the pain. I mean, we go through enough to get here anyway haha. Lol. Im usually mental enough to use atuff like that. Even after shave.after an insane exfolient scrub to prevent em reappearing. But. Ill take.austintite advice for now and probable build the dose up i think

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    I'm going to have my oldest daughter try this and I'll let you know how it works. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brazensol View Post
    I'm going to have my oldest daughter try this and I'll let you know how it works. Thanks.
    Great. Keep us posted Braz!
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    Good stuff, def check it out...

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    Thanks for the informative thread Austinite.

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    Definitely trying this I've had acne since school and never thought about treating it. Granted its not completely severe but in places it ain't the best. Thanx fir the info Austinite

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    going to try this as i have a problem on the valley in my back and those suckers hurt. You're invaluable when it comes to this supplement stuff austin nice work as always!

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    Another great thread!

    Thanks Aus

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    Perfect right before my next cycle impeccable timing Austinite, feel a lot better about the cycle now even more syked thanks again!

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    Interesting. We use a topical wash that's OTC that works miracles on acne. The

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    Interesting. We use a topical wash that's OTC that works miracles on acne. The
    Yeah we know, you guys pitch it in every thread. That's not what this thread is here for and your solution is very temporary.

    Thanks and I'd appreciate if you refrain from this type of subliminal solicitation in my threads.
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    WTF is this guy still here on AR? Alinshoprep too . Probably the same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    WTF is this guy still here on AR? Alinshoprep too . Probably the same person.
    Very annoying. Not the same person, still annoying motives to get around board rules.
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    Started the 5g protocol today to see if it helps the upper arm acne.

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    going to gnc today to pick up this stuff edit* except the pycogenol that stuff is too pricey and I want to see if the b5 and zinc will do the trick by itself

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    update*

    I am up to 7 grams of pantheonic acid a day since yesterday and I am not feeling well today. Bit dizzy and light headed along with having trouble concentrating. Obviously I didn't take my morning dosage of zinc or B5 because I do not want to make it worse.

    Thoughts?


    edit* also feeling nauseous

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    I am interested in why that could be too.
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    Sorry, double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chi View Post
    update*

    I am up to 7 grams of pantheonic acid a day since yesterday and I am not feeling well today. Bit dizzy and light headed along with having trouble concentrating. Obviously I didn't take my morning dosage of zinc or B5 because I do not want to make it worse.

    Thoughts?


    edit* also feeling nauseous
    That's B5. Cut back on your dose. Go back to the dose where you didn't have sides. increase very slowly, 500mg a day or EOD increases. You may respond well to a lower dose .
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    hey austinite quick question concerning the b5 dosage, i got a bottle of b5 it says 500mg 90 capsules, how many capsules are 7gr?

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    would that be 14 pills? holy shit

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    Jesus man I was feeling like absolute shit but getting better. I started having cold sweats and after that it got a little better. My head still feels pretty swimmy and a touch and go nausea. I'm going to not take anything until I start feeling better. Also had some rancid gas because of this lol. My memory is also crap today too


    For 500 mgs it would take 14 pills to be 7 grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chi View Post
    Jesus man I was feeling like absolute shit but getting better. I started having cold sweats and after that it got a little better. My head still feels pretty swimmy and a touch and go nausea. I'm going to not take anything until I start feeling better. Also had some rancid gas because of this lol. My memory is also crap today too


    For 500 mgs it would take 14 pills to be 7 grams.
    This is exactly what happened to me my first run. It will go away. once your skin is clear you don't need the large doses at all.

    yeah the only thing that sucks is they come in 500mg. I use powder form so one scoop get's me 10 grams and I mix it in a drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamameeriar View Post
    would that be 14 pills? holy shit
    Yes. Correct. I take over 60 pills a day. No biggie

    See about getting it in powder form, easier and cheaper.

    Just split the dose up either 2 or 3 times a day. That's only a few pills per dose. Very simple. Are you only able to swallow one pill at a time?
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    oh ok cool, no i can swallow a couple pills at a time

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    i started it today, picked up all 3 bottles, before bed tonight ill take the rest of dosage and continue this till acne clears, cant wait for results, thanks for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamameeriar View Post
    i started it today, picked up all 3 bottles, before bed tonight ill take the rest of dosage and continue this till acne clears, cant wait for results, thanks for this
    keep us posted buddy. Ramp up your dose so you don't experience any discomfort like above.
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    ok ill let keep you posted, thanks

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    oh yeah I just remembered, was wondering im a cycle right, can i start doing this now? had some acne pop up, or should i wait after acne, or makes no difference? i can do it when ever i got acne

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    im on a cycle right now**

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamameeriar View Post
    oh yeah I just remembered, was wondering im a cycle right, can i start doing this now? had some acne pop up, or should i wait after acne, or makes no difference? i can do it when ever i got acne
    yes, on or off cycle, it doesn't matter
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