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    Anything that would help to burn fat and not muscle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsam View Post
    Anything that would help to burn fat and not muscle?
    A good diet, good lifting program, prowler aka push/pull sled, HIIT...

    Don't rely on the compounds until you have the fundamentals in place otherwise you'll just gain the fat back once you come off

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    Ok question Answered. Been doing a lot of research and it all says about the same. Guess the newbie mentality is hard to shake been reading the first cycle thread over and over and it pretty much says what you did. I guess I was hoping someone was going to tell me there was a magic pill lmao. Patience is not my strongest attribute but working on it . Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsam View Post
    Ok question Answered. Been doing a lot of research and it all says about the same. Guess the newbie mentality is hard to shake been reading the first cycle thread over and over and it pretty much says what you did. I guess I was hoping someone was going to tell me there was a magic pill lmao. Patience is not my strongest attribute but working on it . Thanks
    I've got a magic pill and I'll sell it to you for $1,000,000,000 lol. But seriously, work on the patience and the results will come with consistency and dedication. It's what makes or breaks everybody in this game. Good luck to you in your endeavors!

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    Thanks. When I cycled last year I was a maniac. Worked out 7 days a week got upset if I had to miss would go in the middle of the night to make up for it. It's a shame I didn't find thus site then maybe I would still be in that zone. But as in my other posts it was a horrible experience under the guidance of a gym guru. Won't make that mistake again. I'm really starting to obsess on these threads and I'm learning a to and will keep educating before medicating
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    1. Does anyone use T3+Clen while Low Carb/Keto diet? Or it need carbs intake to working?

    2. I.a. Big A ( IFBB PRO ) from other famous BB Forum said that T3 allow use Clen for more than 2 weeks without receptor downregulation... any opinions?

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    Plan on using some t3 on next cycle. I did blood work and threw in a thyroid panel so I knew where I was before started. T3 uptake was at 41. Currently running testPP 150 x3 and tren ace 100 x3 per week. When I run next cycle in about 4 months should I start out at 75mg since normally at 41

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    You're the BOMB "A". This is a great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Introduction

    There was a member earlier that was looking for a detailed T3 thread. We certainly have quite a few, but since this is one of my favorite compounds, I figured I'd post my thoughts on it and add it to the collection. My experience has only been with T3. I've had a short run with T4, and while I can tell you about it, my experience is very limited with T4. So I'll stick to T3. In order to understand what T3 does for us and how it works, we'll need to understand how the thyroid actually works. So that's where we're going to start.


    Explanation of the Thyroid Gland

    The thyroid gland sits in your neck just under the vocal cords and above your windpipe. So basically immediately below the "Adam's Apple" in your neck. Thyroid gland is part of your endocrine system. Recently, in my never ending search for vitamin D deficiency, I was led to the thyroid and had the pleasure of learning a whole lot about it. So let's get into its function...

    The main purpose of this gland is to produce triiodothyronine (T3), thyroxine (T4) and Calcitonin (CT) hormones. It first collects both Iodine & Tyrosine (amino acid) from the bloodstream in order to produce the hormones. T3 & T4 are then delivered to just about every part of your body. Muscles, kidneys, liver, heart, brain, etc.. all get these hormones once they're pumped into the bloodstream by the thyroid gland. Your thyroid is the only gland that can make use of iodine.

    The hypothalamus gland in your brain is the Big Boss of the operation. This is where metabolism function starts. When your thyroid hormone levels become low, the hypothalamus sends a message to the pituitary gland. This message is a hormone called 'thyrotropin releasing hormone' (TRH). The thyroid gland basically takes orders from its boss, the pituitary. When the pituitary receives the message that there is not enough T3 circulating in the blood, it sends a message to the thyroid gland that says "Crank up the heat!". This "message" is called the 'thyroid stimulating hormone' (TSH). It's actions are exactly what its name suggests, it stimulates your thyroid hormone production so that T3 and T4 are pumped out. And the opposite happens when there is too much thyroid hormones, where the pituitary slowly reduces how many messages (TSH) it sends until your levels stabilize again. So when you introduce exogenous T3, the messages slow down to a halt, and natural production stops. That's called Thyroid Shutdown. We'll get into that later...

    When we reference T3 and T4, the "T" stands for Thyroid, and the numbers 3 and 4 represent the number of iodine molecules attached. The purpose of T3 & T4 is carry oxygen to various cells in the body for energy. Just about every cell in our bodies. This is why it's considered our metabolism regulator. It controls how much energy the cells in our bodies have and controls your body's temperature. The more you have, the more energy you have. Low T3 would cause fatigue and other issues. The gland produces much more T4 than T3, about 80% of production is T4. However, we can't utilize T4, so that 80% that was produced, is converted into T3 so that we can actually make use of it. This conversion happens in the liver by removing 1 molecule, so T4 minus 1 iodine molecule = T3.

    So that's T3 and T4, but what about CT, or Calcitonin? In most cases you never have too worry about this one (I'm the only one on earth that has to, I think. ugh). Calcitonin basically counters over production by parathyroid. Parathyroid produced calcium, and when there's too much, Calcitonin works to give your body a balance.


    What Happens When I Supplement With T3 or T4

    As mentioned earlier, my experience is limited with T4. But I'll give you a general idea about it. T4 is converted in your liver into T3. You've seen these pills/liquids dosed in Micrograms. But 100 micrograms of T3 does not equal 100 micrograms of T4. The amount is tremendously reduced after conversion. So 100 mcg of T4 results in about 25 mcg of T3. So if I wanted to get 50 mcg of T3, but I only have T4 pills, I would have to take 200 mcg of T4. But even that calculation isn't spot on, because remember, not 100% of T4 is converted by the liver. So in fact, even more than 200mcg of T4 would be required to produce 50mcg of T3.

    So how much T3 total does your body naturally produce? We've already established that when you supplement with T3 or T4, your pituitary begins to see the exogenous doses and shuts down production. You naturally produce approximately 25 micrograms of T3. So since we know that any oral administration of T3 is a replacement dose (meaning shuts you down), would it make sense to take 25 mcg of T3? Of course not! What's the point of replacing exactly what I produce? That would be a complete waste. Honestly, in my opinion, I think it's even a waste to start at that dose. I know some folks like to "ramp up" the dose. But it's not necessary.

    The absolute minimum dose of T3 should be 40 mcg. I recommend a starting dose of 50 mcg; double what you normally produce.

    When you use T3, you're basically creating the effect of an overactive thyroid. This will inevitably increase your serum levels, increase your metabolism and increase your body temperature. Since T3 reaches almost every cell and tissue in the body, that means it's affecting everything. Your body is in an unnatural state and overly active. So if there's a lot of energy for burning, it will utilize both fat and muscle. So yes, you will burn muscle while on T3 because it's not very picky as far as what it burns. This is the case naturally with folks who have hyperthyroidism. But I have a solution coming up...


    How To Stave Off Muscle Waste from T3

    Lot's of folks have looked at Clenbuterol , Albuterol and other similar compounds for their supposed anti-catabolic properties, to create a balance. Forget about all of that. They will not suffice and you're wasting your time. T3 will over power just about anything you're thinking of, except for steroids . So an attempt at running T3 alone would be detrimental to your muscle-tissue-retention ability.

    Anabolic steroids will help stave off muscle waste. The problem is finding the right dose. Not all bodies have similar response, so the amounts would vary per individual. However, I've found that 250 to 350 mg of testosterone or equivalent of another compound, is enough to save your precious muscle tissue. Since Testosterone does not affect fat the same way it does muscle, you'll end up burning fat at a higher rate than you normally would, had you not introduced T3. So as a rule, I will say that T3 should never be used without a muscle-saving-dose of steroids.

    Testosterone and other steroids when dosed right, will stimulate the muscle and speed up recovery at a faster rate than normal. You can expect that steroids are far more powerful at building, than T3 is at wasting. So although you will experience some counter-production, in my case, it's been quite negligible. And this is experimentation over the years while observing bod pod assessments to determine exact lean mass and body fat percentages. When I used to run bulking cycles, T3 was a must for me. I know many use it for cutting cycles to shed weight, but it can be a very powerful tool for your bulking cycle so that you minimize the chance of fat cells increasing in size.


    How To Cycle With T3 On Board

    To be quite honest, with T3, I don't ever pyramid or taper doses. I choose a dose, then I start and finish with the same dose. That being said, it takes a few trials and errors to find the sweet spot for T3. So it wouldn't hurt to start at 50 mcg to see if you get a good response. Increases would be ok to do in 20 to 25 mcg increments. But again, I never do. T3 is not like some other compounds that hit you in the face with side effects if you dose it a little off.

    There's rarely a need to go over 100 mcg. I've done it, and many others have as well. But remember, that the more you use, the more you'll need to increase your steroid dose to protect your muscles. So don't get carried away with your doses. The highest I've done is not relevant to you as we've already mentioned individualism. So please don't ask because I won't tell. The point is, there is no need to go over 100 mcg.

    If it's your first time with T3. Just start at 50 mcg daily. An ideal dose for most everyone after that first cycle is 75 mcg. That is 3 times what you normally produce. More than plenty to do the job. Once you go over 100 mcg, you'll need to adjust your testosterone dose to save your muscles. the 250 mg I suggested earlier is likely not effective enough at this stage.

    You can run T3 for as long as you wish. There is no "Cut Off" point. Run it until you're satisfied with your results. Obviously these T3 cycles don't tend to last too long because we don't want to stay on steroids for too long either. So it's highly advised to discontinue use when you discontinue steroid use . Many have expressed concern that you have to taper down the dose before you come off of T3. This is false. You can stop cold turkey with no repercussions. Your thyroid gland will return to normal very quickly. I've used this compound for 6 months at a time alongside my TRT protocol. So for our "Cycles", you can expect your thyroid to return to normal function in a few days tops.

    You can start T3 after you start steroid use. If using short esters, give it a week and start your T3. If using long esters, give it a couple weeks and start. Those periods really won't make that much difference, but it's a good idea to eliminate any possible issues.

    There is no need to split your T3 dose into several doses daily. Just take your dose once a day, around the same time daily. You do not have to worry about what time of day, it does not matter. You do not have to worry about taking with or without food, it does not matter. Do not overthink this, please.


    How to Know if Your T3 is Legit and Working

    This is a tough one really. The truth is that a lot of people don't really feel anything from T3. And some others feel it in a couple days. There are only 2 ways of finding out that will work for everyone...

    1. Body Temperature Increase.
    2. Observe Blood work.

    You should always have pre cycle blood work. If you do not get pre cycle blood work, you will not have anything to compare to. So your results would be worthless otherwise. This goes for cycling anything whatsoever.

    After about a week or so of administering T3 doses, you should notice that your body temperature has slightly increased. After a couple weeks it most certainly should be elevated. You should not cycle T3 without a thermometer readily available so that you can check your temperature daily. I use an Omron ear thermometer and it takes a few seconds to give me a reading. As mentioned earlier, do not let your body get into dangerous temperatures. Always monitor and if it gets too high, you'll need to back off the dose in 20 to 25 mcg increments until your temperature is back at a safe point. How much, all depends on your normal body temperature. Not everyone is the same. Mine is normally 98.3 degrees fahrenheit, and I back off when I get too close to 99 degrees fahrenheit.

    Blood work is the best method to check for T3 legitimacy. A good "normal" range for Total T3 is 76-181 ng/dL. And a normal range for Free T3 is 2.3-4.2 pg/mL. Where your levels would be is not a question that can be answered, so please do not ask me this. Too many factors will render comparisons potentially useless. It's easy to assume that your T3 is underdosed, but you could have an issue converting. Take T3, see your results, get blood work. That's how you know YOUR T3 is working for YOU. It should be obviously higher than range and you'll need to monitor and learn how your body takes to it. This is the tough part of testing if gear is underdosed. Either way, if you're in range, it's likely bunk. If you've been on for 4 weeks or so, and you're barely going over range, it's likely underdosed. Your Free T3 should also be elevated and your TSH should be very LOW. <~ aka shut down. TSH is really the big indicator.

    NON-RESPONDERS: Although rare, I have certainly heard of folks that do not respond to T3. Unfortunately they flood internet forums complaining about "fake gear" without providing any blood work. T3 is one of the cheapest powders to buy and the chances of someone faking it or even underdosing it is slim to none. Although I've used some bunk stuff from random chem sites. But I can vouch for ar-r .com, our sponsor for their quality and effectiveness of the compound. There's also a really good chance that you're iodine and/or Tyrosine deficient. Although it's exogenous T3 and doesn't need to be "produced", iodine is still useful for proper metabolism. You don't want to deplete your iodine levels because it makes for a longer, more cumbersome recovery. Leaving you fatigued for a while. Iodine deficiency results in hypothyroidism.

    Finally, many folks are not aware of drug interactions that could hinder progress when coupled with T3.


    Adverse Drug Interactions

    I recommend that you avoid coupling T3 with the following drugs:

    Ephedrine: Risk of cardiac issues. So avoid ECA+T3.
    Lemon Balm: Blocks thyrotropin receptors, making recover longer.
    Insulin: Combo may result in hyperglycemia. (glucose excess)
    Iron: Discontinue iron supplementation (food is enough), as it will decrease efficacy of T3.
    Magnesium Citrate: Same as above. Keep magnesium doses at or under 100 mg.
    Raloxifene: Combination can force TSH to become over productive, even in the presence of exo T3.
    Red Yeast Rice: This is used to help cholesterol levels, unknown mechanism interferes with T3.

    Above interactions are from epocrates, you need a membership to access the data so I cannot link to it.


    Side Effects Of T3


    Many people, including myself experience a level of fatigue and even some achiness. This generally (for me at least) goes away after a week or so or when your body adjusts to all the T3. That is all I personally experience (as far as feeling something) from T3, and I get great results from it. Of course I get a temperature increase but it doesn't make me feel hot all the time. It's not like Trenbolone .

    Other issues you might experience are developing an irregular heartbeat (this is not as dangerous as it sounds), shakiness, shortness of breath, headaches and sweating.

    If your symptoms persist beyond 2 weeks, you should either lower your dose or abort the cycle.

    Hope this article helps. Have a powerful day,


    ~ Austinite
    Thanks for the informative write up on T3.
    I just purchased some last week and am going to have my first go with it.
    Looking forward to seeing what it actually does combined with caloric deficient diet and daily mid level cardio.
    Is it advised not to do HIIT training while running T3?

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    Doesnt matter what kind of training you do when on T3.

    Can you please edit your post and un-quote the original article? It makes the page too large and if I edit anything I need everyone to pay attention to the OP.

    Thanks.
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    Aust I posted recently in the Q&A about this and they linked to this article. Which answered almost all my questions. As always very informative with your threads.

    I see u have little experience with T4, but like for example marcus says he uses t4 because of how he reacts better to it. For a first time user how do you choose between the 2, and why do certain people have a prefence between the two. Is T4 converts to T3 in the liver anyways....this is why I confused.

    Also would you need to supplement taurine while supplementing T3. I started cramping on Albut before. and at a very low dose.

    And how close are th sides compared to Clen or Albut. I see your discriptions of the sides. But see that u normally do not experience most.

    If these answers are in your post im apologize. im going to re-read for the 3rd time now lol

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    Just a quick question.

    As I like to play basketball and am quite enthusiastic about it, ever since I began taking T3 I have noticed no fat loss (from the scale or looking at the mirror), however instead I have noticed that my athletic ability has increased (verticle, sprint speed etc).

    I have tested this by supplementing with T3 for 2 weeks and then not supplementing for T3 for 2 weeks and am 100% confident T3 makes me athletic. Could T3 potentially burn visceral fat better than visible fat?

    Thoughts on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80 View Post
    Aust I posted recently in the Q&A about this and they linked to this article. Which answered almost all my questions. As always very informative with your threads.

    I see u have little experience with T4, but like for example marcus says he uses t4 because of how he reacts better to it. For a first time user how do you choose between the 2, and why do certain people have a prefence between the two. Is T4 converts to T3 in the liver anyways....this is why I confused.

    Also would you need to supplement taurine while supplementing T3. I started cramping on Albut before. and at a very low dose.

    And how close are th sides compared to Clen or Albut. I see your discriptions of the sides. But see that u normally do not experience most.

    If these answers are in your post im apologize. im going to re-read for the 3rd time now lol
    Hey Sfla,

    I'm not quite sure why one would prefer T4 over T3, or vice versa. If you administer enough T4 to convert X-amount of T3, you should technically have a similar ending result. I've always used T3 without issues so I don't have an issue recommending it for a first timer.

    There are far more studies than otherwise, concluding negligible difference between T3 and T4 while treating deficiency patients. In fact, so many, that doctors/manufacturers began producing/prescribing a T3/T4 combination to eliminate the ideology that one is better than the other. This remains common practice today. These studies I refer to are recent; in the 2000's.

    I've heard of folks 'cramping' while cycling T3. I personally have not experienced this. But Taurine can be used to remedy the cramping if needed.

    T3 is not comparable to Clenbuterol with respect to side effects. Not for me at least. I will never use clenbuterol again as my body cannot handle it even at 40 mcg. Albuterol on the other hand, is mild with the side effects and can be compared to T3 with respect to side effects only. (completely different mechanism)

    Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uhit View Post
    Just a quick question.

    As I like to play basketball and am quite enthusiastic about it, ever since I began taking T3 I have noticed no fat loss (from the scale or looking at the mirror), however instead I have noticed that my athletic ability has increased (verticle, sprint speed etc).

    I have tested this by supplementing with T3 for 2 weeks and then not supplementing for T3 for 2 weeks and am 100% confident T3 makes me athletic. Could T3 potentially burn visceral fat better than visible fat?

    Thoughts on this?
    Nope. T3 does not discriminate. I don't have a reply to your findings. That just doesn't make much sense to me. It sounds like a placebo effect found it's way to you via T3 regarding your elevated energy levels while playing sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post

    Hey Sfla,

    I'm not quite sure why one would prefer T4 over T3, or vice versa. If you administer enough T4 to convert X-amount of T3, you should technically have a similar ending result. I've always used T3 without issues so I don't have an issue recommending it for a first timer.

    There are far more studies than otherwise, concluding negligible difference between T3 and T4 while treating deficiency patients. In fact, so many, that doctors/manufacturers began producing/prescribing a T3/T4 combination to eliminate the ideology that one is better than the other. This remains common practice today. These studies I refer to are recent; in the 2000's.

    I've heard of folks 'cramping' while cycling T3. I personally have not experienced this. But Taurine can be used to remedy the cramping if needed.

    T3 is not comparable to Clenbuterol with respect to side effects. Not for me at least. I will never use clenbuterol again as my body cannot handle it even at 40 mcg. Albuterol on the other hand, is mild with the side effects and can be compared to T3 with respect to side effects only. (completely different mechanism)

    Hope that helps.
    Thanks austinite it did help.

    Side note...did by any chance u see my new thread about the NOW product I'm interested in trying for daily regimen. I posted a link. The thread is like 2 below this one.

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    Lmao ok ty sir

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    I have a question. I recently started back on t3 after a break. I had an injury that kept me from working out, so I cruised and cut (I was already cutting) while waiting, taking about 50mg t3 a day (up to 75 for a little while). for around 8 weeks. After about a 4 week break, I started back on 25mg for a blast and bulk. I know you've stated that 25 mg doesn't do much, but my resting bpm is up about 30% when I take it. I went from 90 or so to 120-125.

    I guess if I have a question here it's: Why is 25mg having that much effect on me? Is my natural t3 production not being suppressed? Maybe my t3 is overdosed? I don't really want to go back to 50mg because I was burning up on that dosage. I don't particularly like how I feel taking t3, but it's incredibly effective for me.

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    Could be overdosed, could be that you're under-producing. Your baseline is lower than the average male. If 25mcg is working, stay there.
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    Good easy info as always.

    if it has already been determined that my pituitary does not work as far as testosterone . (Even though test is low my LH remains in low normal range) Does that mean that it does not send the the right amount of tsh to my thyroid as well?

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    Hey Austin, do you know if Nolvadex can be safely run with T3?

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    Tummy not Cutting

    Hi Austin,

    Posted Few Pics. Please see this and let me know will T3 Cycle help me get this pot belly away. Tried a lot of crunches and now I think the back will be gone with gaining nothing. I will continue workout but want to know something to get rid of this quickly so that I feel more motivated and confident.

    How long should I take T3 and Expect this to be a trimmed one.

    I know its embarrassing in the middle I am jumping in and asking this question, but please help me answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechsubrat
    Hi Austin, Posted Few Pics. Please see this and let me know will T3 Cycle help me get this pot belly away. Tried a lot of crunches and now I think the back will be gone with gaining nothing. I will continue workout but want to know something to get rid of this quickly so that I feel more motivated and confident. How long should I take T3 and Expect this to be a trimmed one. I know its embarrassing in the middle I am jumping in and asking this question, but please help me answer. Regards Mech
    Jump to nutritional forum. Post up stats, sample day of meals and your goals. You will get farther along with diet then will with t3 IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Jump to nutritional forum. Post up stats, sample day of meals and your goals.
    Posted but nothing is moving much. Hopefully I am doing something wrong.

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    t3 IMHO.
    What is IMHO

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    hi austinite, what's your opinion about taking t3 on empty stomach, and do you recommend spliting the dosages? 25 mornin - 25 pre workout (5pm) ?

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    Does not matter if empty stomach or not. No need to split dose. Timing does not matter.
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    Does T3 increase appetite? Or is appetite not affected when supplementing with T3

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    Great read... Was just asking someone about this... Think I may add T3 to my PROP/NPP cycle! Makes sense with Nandrolone ! Thanks as always!

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    wow i was going to run some t3 in a couple of months but i was also going to run ralox,so i am glad i read your post you saved me from some bad times....

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    Just started T3 (50mcg) yesterday in conjunction with my winter cut. Gotta say I do feel a bit different the past day and a half. A bit flush, warm, and woke up 3 times last night, I will check my temp tonight. I hope it helps me cut down to at least 12% BF, figure I am at about 18 or 19 now. Started HIIT fasted 3 mornings a week and will continue lifting 4-5 days a week. Lately I have been moving weights I didn't think I would be moving at 53!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoag View Post
    Just started T3 (50mcg) yesterday in conjunction with my winter cut. Gotta say I do feel a bit different the past day and a half. A bit flush, warm, and woke up 3 times last night, I will check my temp tonight. I hope it helps me cut down to at least 12% BF, figure I am at about 18 or 19 now. Started HIIT fasted 3 mornings a week and will continue lifting 4-5 days a week. Lately I have been moving weights I didn't think I would be moving at 53!
    Looking good, rhoag! Keep us posted on your progress!
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    Great read, as always. There is so much conflicting info about supplementation. It's hard to know what to trust. I always trust what you write. I don't know how I missed this last year. I've been kicking around the idea of T3 for a while now. I'll probably give it a shot this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    Great read, as always. There is so much conflicting info about supplementation. It's hard to know what to trust. I always trust what you write. I don't know how I missed this last year. I've been kicking around the idea of T3 for a while now. I'll probably give it a shot this year.
    thanks for the kind words, J man! Hope all is well with you.
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    Hello austinite. I'm really interested in doing this run. I really want to get fcking shredded for the summer. Currently I'm at 6'2" 240lbs. I'm at a deficit. Diet, training, and sleep are in check.

    Cutting at around 2200kcals/day. Currently doing Ephedrine + Norcodrene + Erase Pro + Supremacy 2.0(Forskolin). Do you have any recommended dosage for Clen and T3? Is it really necessary to run an anabolic steroid ? I've never used any anabolics in my life and I'm quite scared about it for now. Please advice! Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    thanks for the kind words, J man! Hope all is well with you.
    Yep yep. I got really sick last July. Parenteral feeding from acute pancreatitis + ileus. Had to shut down all my digestive system for over a month. Not even water. Not a good time! Got am extensive DVT from the picc line. Couldn't lift from July until a few weeks ago. Doctors orders. Warfarin and Lovenox for 5 months to round out the end of the year. Lol. No picnic! But I'm fully recovered now. Enough about me :h I hide in Marcus' thread mostly these days. I still lurk about from time to time!

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    Hey Austinite,

    Very impressive writing you did very well actually I love all your articles.

    I would have two questions to you regardless of T3. I started at 0.25ml (50mcg) yesterday and I plan to take it ED until my PCT starts. (8 Weeks)

    When should I notice temperature increase?
    How long should I wait until start to increase the dose?

    I am on the second day and have not noticed anything yet only a bad diarrhea. Actually I started T3 with your over the counter stack. The only adjustment I did is to increase Sinephryne to 63mg

    Could Sinephryne cause diarrhea?

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    When should I notice temperature increase?
    Less than a week.

    How long should I wait until start to increase the dose?
    I don't recommend increasing dose. No need.

    Could Sinephryne cause diarrhea?
    Not likely at the right dose. And fyi.. I do not recommend coupling Synephrine with T3.
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    Ok thank you austinite.

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    Well it seams Ar-r 's stuff not working on me. I mean I am on 0.25ml and on the 7th day and no signs at all.
    I decided to increase it to 0.50ml what is 100mcg I believe.
    I am currently on 500ml Test E a week. Is this amount enough to save muscle?

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    You mean 500 MG (not ml), yes, plenty.
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