Do protien powders really help?

[djgreen]

If you eat right then wouldn't protein supps be useless

[Mp859]

If you eat right then wouldn't protein supps be useless

Protein and all supplements for that matter, are to "supplement" a diet that is already in check.

[djgreen]

yea I eat about 200gs of protein a day including shake and eat healthy but sometimes they constipate me I was just wondering how beneficial they really are

[Reiid13]

yea I eat about 200gs of protein a day including shake and eat healthy but sometimes they constipate me I was just wondering how beneficial they really are

For people bulking sometimes they are a must have . Personally i work in a medical setting - 12 and a half hour shifts . I get two breaks ... Im ****ed tying to eat all the cals i need to build muscle in my two breaks so i eat and have a shake to get down the protein and cals .. IMO protein shakes are circumstantial , varying person to person . Majority of young gym goers take protein shakes because they think they look bad ass carrying around a shaker bottle infront of girls

[Jesusbrah]

People call protein powder a supplement, however it is technically a food source. Its a byproduct of cheese, which is then filtered. From a macronutrient standpoint, its just as good as chicken, beef etc, but you lose alot of the micronutrients.

So yes, it does work. Great for people who dont have time to eat all day.

[kelkel]

Majority of young gym goers take protein shakes because they think they look bad ass carrying around a shaker bottle in front of girls

That explains why it never works in my basement. Crap.

[Reiid13]

That explains why it never works in my basement. Crap.

Lol , what i meant by that part is : a protein shake is a supplement , if you have time post workout to eat a meal with plenty of protein ... Why would you forfeit that for a shake ?

As I said i use shakes especially when im in work , as my work doesnt give me opportunities to eat 5 times a day ....

[Reiid13]

People call protein powder a supplement, however it is technically a food source.

LOL , yes its a food source but its a supplemented food source ( this made me chuckle lol )

[kelkel]

Lol , what i meant by that part is : a protein shake is a supplement , if you have time post workout to eat a meal with plenty of protein ... Why would you forfeit that for a shake ?

As I said i use shakes especially when im in work , as my work doesnt give me opportunities to eat 5 times a day ....

Reiid it was self deprecating humor. I work out alone in my basement but girls never show up.

[Reiid13]

Reiid it was self deprecating humor. I work out alone in my basement but girls never show up.

Ohh i see haha , i read it as " why is reid saying protein shakes dont work . Crap"

Hahaha my bad bro , btw SICK pic

[monster-ish]

Try whey isolates, nearly zero lactose so shouldn't bother your stomach but on another point I like to take a shake post w/o to get the muscles the proper nutrients to grow as fast as possible but it is also perfect for meal replacement as stated above. There are also meat and veggie based protein that work well for those with lactose issues

[Docd187123]

Reiid it was self deprecating humor. I work out alone in my basement but girls never show up.

There was that one time Austin and I came by dressed up......maybe it's a story best saved for another time and place.

[kelkel]

There was that one time Austin and I came by dressed up......maybe it's a story best saved for another time and place.

Oh shut your mouth....

[LEO78]

They are not magic, just kind of food / supplement, useful when u have no time to have a snack & so on. Not sure why most people think they will turn into a monster if taking protein.

[tdoe11]

Protein powders are a waste of money. Half of them are lying or misleading about the amount of protein that is in them. Google search protein dusting.

Also many times your body has a hard time digesting them, thus giving you gnarly gas and bloating. My opinion is powders are a waste of hard earned cash. None of the pros or major competitors I have met use them.

[austinite]

I never use them. They're meal replacements and unless you just can't eat, I wouldn't bother.

[Sgt. Hartman]

The quality protein powders are no better or worse than real food, they're replacement for real food when necessary. For that purpose they're great, but apart from that not necessary at all.

[tdoe11]

The quality protein powders are no better or worse than real food, they're replacement for real food when necessary. For that purpose they're great, but apart from that not necessary at all.

This is incorrect. First off protein powders are completely processed. Your body never digest and utilize processed foods as it will food. Right off the bat you can't compare that to real whole lean meats. Second it is made by a company that is not regulated.

Take 200 grams of protein powder daily on a bulk, then bulk again and eat 200 grams of protein and tell me your gains are the same. Protein powders are a waste of money, don't be fooled.

[rahulsingh265]

Conditionally essential ....

[Sgt. Hartman]

This is incorrect. First off protein powders are completely processed. Your body never digest and utilize processed foods as it will food. Right off the bat you can't compare that to real whole lean meats. Second it is made by a company that is not regulated.

Take 200 grams of protein powder daily on a bulk, then bulk again and eat 200 grams of protein and tell me your gains are the same. Protein powders are a waste of money, don't be fooled.

I said "the quality protein powders" I'm not talking about body fortress from wal mart.

And there are at least dozens of studies that show that the quality powders have a higher bio-availability and absorption mg per mg than their lean meat counterpart, that's a fact.

If there are poor digestion issues that would be individual dependant, the majority of people have no problems.

[Docd187123]

This is incorrect. First off protein powders are completely processed. Your body never digest and utilize processed foods as it will food. Right off the bat you can't compare that to real whole lean meats. Second it is made by a company that is not regulated.

Take 200 grams of protein powder daily on a bulk, then bulk again and eat 200 grams of protein and tell me your gains are the same. Protein powders are a waste of money, don't be fooled.

How does processed food get digested or utilized any differently than any other type of food???

They are regulated, they have to be to be sold legally. Is just the regulations for supplements are different than that of medicines or food.

Besides the differences in amino acid content, 200g of protein from powder will yield the same results as 200g of protein from any other protein source.

[tdoe11]

Processed food is full of preservatives, fillers, dyes, artificial flavorings, chemicals, etc. Whole food (as close to the world made it as possible) is always easier to digest and is aways better for you and more nutritious.

Take protein powder for instance. When I have a shake I get bloated, super gassy and often uncomfortable. That does not happen with the same amount of protein from chicken, steak or what ever.

Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.

Much of the problem is in fact the supplement industry is NOT regulated by the FDA or any government institution. How do you think it is possible for all these supplements to be here today banned tomorrow, do you think the government is changing its mind and deciding to ban it after it was allowed?

Out of all the pros and competitors i know I don't think any of them uses protein powders. They eat real food. Don't be fooled by the supplement industry 90% of it is bogus.....

[Docd187123]

Processed food is full of preservatives, fillers, dyes, artificial flavorings, chemicals, etc.

Which effects food digestion and calorie utilization how precisely?

[tdoe11]

Which effects food digestion and calorie utilization how precisely?

Sorry I hit send too soon I edited it

[tdoe11]

Here's a couple links

Supplement regulations http://www.sharecare.com/health/diet...-regulated-fda

Protein dusting/spiking [url]h
Http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/protein-spiking?preview

Lots of info out there. Have a read I think it will open your eyes.

[Ashop]

If you eat right then wouldn't protein supps be useless

I treat my whey isolate as a FOOD supplement. I have few shakes daily to get my protein requirements met
but most of mine comes from food.

[Blaz Kavlic]

Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.

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I find this comment interesting. The packaging of my protein supp says 30g of protein per scoop. Would there be any way to test whether this true or not?

[tdoe11]

I find this comment interesting. The packaging of my protein supp says 30g of protein per scoop. Would there be any way to test whether this true or not?

Some companies go through USP testing. I have seen that quite a bit on vitamins from Costco. Never seen it on protein though.

Companies many times will advertise "25 grams per serving". And in fact the serving contains 25 grams, much of it is not protein though. Not sure how to test. I would start by looking at the manufacturers website.

[Docd187123]

Here's a couple links

Supplement regulations Why aren't nutritional supplements regulated by the FDA? - Dietary Supplements - Sharecare

Protein dusting/spiking [url]h
Http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/protein-spiking?preview

Lots of info out there. Have a read I think it will open your eyes.

Neither of those address your claim about the digestibility or utilization of processed foods vs unprocessed foods.

I'm already aware of protein spiking. Once again, as Sgt. Hartman said, a QUALITY PROTEIN POWDER supplement. If you get body fortress from walmart than you're going to experience this. Getting it from a reputable source eliminates the problem.

[Docd187123]

Some companies go through USP testing. I have seen that quite a bit on vitamins from Costco. Never seen it on protein though.

Companies many times will advertise "25 grams per serving". And in fact the serving contains 25 grams, much of it is not protein though. Not sure how to test. I would start by looking at the manufacturers website.

This is incorrect. The vast majority of most powders is protein still. They add compounds that spike the nitrogen content of the product to falsely raise but protein amount but this only accounts for maybe 10-15% of the total protein content. Also if the manufacturer is going to go through with this I doubt their own website is going to advertise it.

[Docd187123]

Processed food is full of preservatives, fillers, dyes, artificial flavorings, chemicals, etc. Whole food (as close to the world made it as possible) is always easier to digest and is aways better for you and more nutritious.

You keep saying the same things yet provide no evidence. Repetition doesn't make something true. There's nothing wrong with any of the products you mentioned. Whole foods are not always easier to digest than processed foods. What about he person allergic to peanuts (a whole food) or someone who gets gassy eating beans (another whole food) vs a processed granola bar or something that causes no such discomfort.

Take protein powder for instance. When I have a shake I get bloated, super gassy and often uncomfortable. That does not happen with the same amount of protein from chicken, steak or what ever.

That's your personal experience not universal truth. Myself and plenty others never get bloated off protein powders.

Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.

Addressed earlier but relevance towards digestibility and utilization of processed vs unprocessed foods???

Much of the problem is in fact the supplement industry is NOT regulated by the FDA or any government institution. How do you think it is possible for all these supplements to be here today banned tomorrow, do you think the government is changing its mind and deciding to ban it after it was allowed?

We are talking processed vs unprocessed foods NOT supplements. Relevance?

Out of all the pros and competitors i know I don't think any of them uses protein powders. They eat real food. Don't be fooled by the supplement industry 90% of it is bogus.....

Once again your personal experiences as competitors I know use plenty of protein powders. Don't be fooled by pros and competitors since we have not much knowledge on what they do when no one is watching among other reasons.

[marcus300]

When you get to a certain size and your calorie needs are extreme to maintain your muscle tissue your size then you do have to incorporate them into your diet. Also certain times of the day due to my working schedule they come in really handy to keep my cals high. I do try my best to have as much food as possible but when your trying to maintain a certain size the intake can be overwhelming. I can eat when not hungry this isn't a problem for me but its about convenience and what I am doing at the time which dictates whether its food or a shake. They are a supplement and tool to use to your advantage so IMHO use them when needed.

[tdoe11]

Neither of those address your claim about the digestibility or utilization of processed foods vs unprocessed foods. I'm already aware of protein spiking. Once again, as Sgt. Hartman said, a QUALITY PROTEIN POWDER supplement. If you get body fortress from walmart than you're going to experience this. Getting it from a reputable source eliminates the problem.

Look man, if you feel processed foods full of garbage, fillers and preservatives are as easy to digest and you get the same nutritional value as whole foods then carry on if you believe in the supplement industry, and trust them so much to believe that most companies use at least 85% pure proteins in their proteins then carry on as well

I don't really have the time or energy Google things for you to prove a point. Much of this is common sense, the other part can be researched if you wish. Best of luck.

[tdoe11]

This is incorrect. The vast majority of most powders is protein still. They add compounds that spike the nitrogen content of the product to falsely raise but protein amount but this only accounts for maybe 10-15% of the total protein content. Also if the manufacturer is going to go through with this I doubt their own website is going to advertise it.

Clearly I was not saying to look at manufactures websites to see who is using fillers and mislabeling. I was saying go and see who uses what 3rd party testing methods to ensure purity..........

and you are very off with your 85-90% purity. Again though, you can carry on as you are or you are welcome to do your own research......

[Docd187123]

Clearly I was not saying to look at manufactures websites to see who is using fillers and mislabeling. I was saying go and see who uses what 3rd party testing methods to ensure purity..........

and you are very off with your 85-90% purity. Again though, you can carry on as you are or you are welcome to do your own research......

You can check reddit where somebody did tests on several different manufacturers. I've done my research thank you, have you? Or you can keep making baseless claims without a shred of detail or evidence to support anything....

[Docd187123]

Look man, if you feel processed foods full of garbage, fillers and preservatives are as easy to digest and you get the same nutritional value as whole foods then carry on if you believe in the supplement industry, and trust them so much to believe that most companies use at least 85% pure proteins in their proteins then carry on as well

I don't really have the time or energy Google things for you to prove a point. Much of this is common sense, the other part can be researched if you wish. Best of luck.

If you have neither the time or energy to back up your claims then your claims are basically worthless.

Once again, truth by repetition. Never gets old.

[bulldoghorn]

Processed food is full of preservatives, fillers, dyes, artificial flavorings, chemicals, etc. Whole food (as close to the world made it as possible) is always easier to digest and is aways better for you and more nutritious.

Take protein powder for instance. When I have a shake I get bloated, super gassy and often uncomfortable. That does not happen with the same amount of protein from chicken, steak or what ever.

Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.

Much of the problem is in fact the supplement industry is NOT regulated by the FDA or any government institution. How do you think it is possible for all these supplements to be here today banned tomorrow, do you think the government is changing its mind and deciding to ban it after it was allowed?

Out of all the pros and competitors i know I don't think any of them uses protein powders. They eat real food. Don't be fooled by the supplement industry 90% of it is bogus.....

I'm not arguing with your point above, but I can get bloated and gassy from eating a ribeye on occasion. Probably shouldn't use that example. However, with all the added chemicals, there is the potential for less absorption of nutrients in protein powder vs. real food. Except real food like chicken, beef and pork that has been pumped with hormones, dyes, and chemicals right before processing may cause the same issue. Hmmmmmm, what a conundrum.

[tdoe11]

I'm not arguing with your point above, but I can get bloated and gassy from eating a ribeye on occasion. Probably shouldn't use that example. However, with all the added chemicals, there is the potential for less absorption of nutrients in protein powder vs. real food. Except real food like chicken, beef and pork that has been pumped with hormones, dyes, and chemicals right before processing may cause the same issue. Hmmmmmm, what a conundrum.

True that. Still though, real food wins 100% of the time. Too many people get so involved with supps. Me to at one point. Since I hung all that crap up my physique is better than ever and I feel better than ever

[Synhax]

Always considered protein powder as I matter of convenience, like when I am in a rush and can't eat a full meal or when im not really hungry but haven't had any food in more than 4hrs. But there is no reason why you can't get all your macro needs strictly from foods if you wanted to.

[NumLock]

They help to avoid starvation when you have no time for eating. That's it.