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02-17-2015, 07:03 PM #1
Do protien powders really help?
If you eat right then wouldn't protein supps be useless
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02-17-2015, 07:25 PM #2Originally Posted by djgreen
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02-17-2015, 07:47 PM #3
yea I eat about 200gs of protein a day including shake and eat healthy but sometimes they constipate me I was just wondering how beneficial they really are
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02-18-2015, 05:40 PM #4Originally Posted by djgreen
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02-18-2015, 05:50 PM #5
People call protein powder a supplement, however it is technically a food source. Its a byproduct of cheese, which is then filtered. From a macronutrient standpoint, its just as good as chicken, beef etc, but you lose alot of the micronutrients.
So yes, it does work. Great for people who dont have time to eat all day.
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02-18-2015, 06:04 PM #6
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02-18-2015, 06:18 PM #7Originally Posted by kelkel
As I said i use shakes especially when im in work , as my work doesnt give me opportunities to eat 5 times a day ....
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02-18-2015, 06:25 PM #8Originally Posted by Jesusbrah
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02-18-2015, 06:40 PM #9
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02-18-2015, 07:05 PM #10Originally Posted by kelkel
Hahaha my bad bro , btw SICK pic
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02-18-2015, 07:12 PM #11
Try whey isolates, nearly zero lactose so shouldn't bother your stomach but on another point I like to take a shake post w/o to get the muscles the proper nutrients to grow as fast as possible but it is also perfect for meal replacement as stated above. There are also meat and veggie based protein that work well for those with lactose issues
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02-18-2015, 07:24 PM #13
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03-05-2015, 08:59 AM #14
They are not magic, just kind of food / supplement, useful when u have no time to have a snack & so on. Not sure why most people think they will turn into a monster if taking protein.
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03-05-2015, 11:39 PM #15
Protein powders are a waste of money. Half of them are lying or misleading about the amount of protein that is in them. Google search protein dusting.
Also many times your body has a hard time digesting them, thus giving you gnarly gas and bloating. My opinion is powders are a waste of hard earned cash. None of the pros or major competitors I have met use them.
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03-07-2015, 07:59 PM #16
I never use them. They're meal replacements and unless you just can't eat, I wouldn't bother.
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03-07-2015, 09:00 PM #17
The quality protein powders are no better or worse than real food, they're replacement for real food when necessary. For that purpose they're great, but apart from that not necessary at all.
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03-08-2015, 12:32 AM #18Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman
Take 200 grams of protein powder daily on a bulk, then bulk again and eat 200 grams of protein and tell me your gains are the same. Protein powders are a waste of money, don't be fooled.
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03-08-2015, 08:41 AM #19
Conditionally essential ....
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03-08-2015, 09:00 AM #20
I said "the quality protein powders" I'm not talking about body fortress from wal mart.
And there are at least dozens of studies that show that the quality powders have a higher bio-availability and absorption mg per mg than their lean meat counterpart, that's a fact.
If there are poor digestion issues that would be individual dependant, the majority of people have no problems.
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03-08-2015, 09:41 AM #21Banned
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How does processed food get digested or utilized any differently than any other type of food???
They are regulated, they have to be to be sold legally. Is just the regulations for supplements are different than that of medicines or food.
Besides the differences in amino acid content, 200g of protein from powder will yield the same results as 200g of protein from any other protein source.
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03-08-2015, 09:45 AM #22
Processed food is full of preservatives, fillers, dyes, artificial flavorings, chemicals, etc. Whole food (as close to the world made it as possible) is always easier to digest and is aways better for you and more nutritious.
Take protein powder for instance. When I have a shake I get bloated, super gassy and often uncomfortable. That does not happen with the same amount of protein from chicken, steak or what ever.
Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.
Much of the problem is in fact the supplement industry is NOT regulated by the FDA or any government institution. How do you think it is possible for all these supplements to be here today banned tomorrow, do you think the government is changing its mind and deciding to ban it after it was allowed?
Out of all the pros and competitors i know I don't think any of them uses protein powders. They eat real food. Don't be fooled by the supplement industry 90% of it is bogus.....Last edited by tdoe11; 03-08-2015 at 09:53 AM.
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03-08-2015, 09:53 AM #24Originally Posted by Docd187123
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03-08-2015, 10:08 AM #25
Here's a couple links
Supplement regulations http://www.sharecare.com/health/diet...-regulated-fda
Protein dusting/spiking [url]h
Http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/protein-spiking?preview
Lots of info out there. Have a read I think it will open your eyes.
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03-08-2015, 05:32 PM #26
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03-09-2015, 08:33 AM #28Originally Posted by Blaz Kavlic
Companies many times will advertise "25 grams per serving". And in fact the serving contains 25 grams, much of it is not protein though. Not sure how to test. I would start by looking at the manufacturers website.
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03-09-2015, 09:25 AM #29Banned
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Neither of those address your claim about the digestibility or utilization of processed foods vs unprocessed foods.
I'm already aware of protein spiking. Once again, as Sgt. Hartman said, a QUALITY PROTEIN POWDER supplement. If you get body fortress from walmart than you're going to experience this. Getting it from a reputable source eliminates the problem.
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This is incorrect. The vast majority of most powders is protein still. They add compounds that spike the nitrogen content of the product to falsely raise but protein amount but this only accounts for maybe 10-15% of the total protein content. Also if the manufacturer is going to go through with this I doubt their own website is going to advertise it.
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You keep saying the same things yet provide no evidence. Repetition doesn't make something true. There's nothing wrong with any of the products you mentioned. Whole foods are not always easier to digest than processed foods. What about he person allergic to peanuts (a whole food) or someone who gets gassy eating beans (another whole food) vs a processed granola bar or something that causes no such discomfort.
Take protein powder for instance. When I have a shake I get bloated, super gassy and often uncomfortable. That does not happen with the same amount of protein from chicken, steak or what ever.
Have you ever heard of "protein dusting"? If you haven't I would suggest taking a read. It will make you think twice. Many times the misleading "25 grams per scoop" will have you believe it's 25 grams of protein, in which it is not.
Much of the problem is in fact the supplement industry is NOT regulated by the FDA or any government institution. How do you think it is possible for all these supplements to be here today banned tomorrow, do you think the government is changing its mind and deciding to ban it after it was allowed?
Out of all the pros and competitors i know I don't think any of them uses protein powders. They eat real food. Don't be fooled by the supplement industry 90% of it is bogus.....
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03-09-2015, 09:40 AM #32
When you get to a certain size and your calorie needs are extreme to maintain your muscle tissue your size then you do have to incorporate them into your diet. Also certain times of the day due to my working schedule they come in really handy to keep my cals high. I do try my best to have as much food as possible but when your trying to maintain a certain size the intake can be overwhelming. I can eat when not hungry this isn't a problem for me but its about convenience and what I am doing at the time which dictates whether its food or a shake. They are a supplement and tool to use to your advantage so IMHO use them when needed.
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03-09-2015, 01:30 PM #33Originally Posted by Docd187123
I don't really have the time or energy Google things for you to prove a point. Much of this is common sense, the other part can be researched if you wish. Best of luck.
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03-09-2015, 01:33 PM #34Originally Posted by Docd187123
and you are very off with your 85-90% purity. Again though, you can carry on as you are or you are welcome to do your own research......
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I'm not arguing with your point above, but I can get bloated and gassy from eating a ribeye on occasion. Probably shouldn't use that example. However, with all the added chemicals, there is the potential for less absorption of nutrients in protein powder vs. real food. Except real food like chicken, beef and pork that has been pumped with hormones, dyes, and chemicals right before processing may cause the same issue. Hmmmmmm, what a conundrum.
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03-09-2015, 02:27 PM #38Originally Posted by bulldoghorn
True that. Still though, real food wins 100% of the time. Too many people get so involved with supps. Me to at one point. Since I hung all that crap up my physique is better than ever and I feel better than ever
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Always considered protein powder as I matter of convenience, like when I am in a rush and can't eat a full meal or when im not really hungry but haven't had any food in more than 4hrs. But there is no reason why you can't get all your macro needs strictly from foods if you wanted to.
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03-25-2015, 12:38 AM #40
They help to avoid starvation when you have no time for eating. That's it.
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