Thread: asprin with ephedra
02-04-2004, 12:36 PM #1New Member
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asprin with ephedra
how much asprin should i take with ephera.
02-04-2004, 01:00 PM #2
you can do a search on this, but i believe that 300-400mg is sufficient...though some (including me) dont believe that aspirin is necessary with ephedrine.
02-04-2004, 02:09 PM #3Originally Posted by bigsd67
02-04-2004, 08:24 PM #4New Member
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so is it a positive thing to take asprin or a negative
02-04-2004, 08:33 PM #5
I've always taken 325 mg aspirin, 200 mg caffeine, and 25 mg ephedrine hcl and it works wonder.
02-04-2004, 08:36 PM #6
I don't see how taking asprin helps with ephedra. And taking asprin every day can cause health problems.
02-04-2004, 08:41 PM #7
Ouch guys, take the 81mg small aspirins!
It's more than enough with ECA, a 325mg aspirin 2x3 times a day with your ECA doses is rough on your stomach, and the blood thinning will cause hemerhoidal and in some case intestinal bleeding in many people.
02-04-2004, 08:50 PM #8Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
02-04-2004, 10:53 PM #9
ECA stack works fine for me with out the a...i heard that asprin thins your blood wich allows more blood to be pumped?? is that makes any sense
02-05-2004, 02:52 AM #10
deja vu all over again
please see my previous post:
and i'll kindly ignore daman1 posting that without quoting me ... jk man.. i don't mind as long as its in the right context... which it was.
as in the dose of ASA required, 81 mg might be too little. Doses as low as 50mg have been shown to have antiplatelet effect. But to illicit the anti-inflammatory effect of ASA, you need doses closer to 325mg. Why is this important? ASA's inhibition of prostaglandin production is what gives it its antiinflammatory property. Also, ASA is used in flushing caused by Niacin. The vasodilatory effect of niacin seems to be caused by prostaglandins. The 325mg dose has been shown to be better at reducing the flushing effect than an 81mg dose. From this you may be able to postulate that the 325mg dose is better at inhibiting prostaglandin production than and 80mg dose.
ASA increases the risk of duodenal and gastric ulcers and lower GI bleed as well. The use of an enteric coated ASA has been shown to decrease the risk of this. There have also been issues with caffeine causing GI hemorrhage and gastritis but this has only been really shown in newborns being given caffeine for apnea. Most of the data involving caffeine causing GI disturbances in adults is comprised of case reports.
I answer the "more blood to be pumped" issue in the link provided.
Theoretically, it is a positive to take the aspirin in the ECA stack but I don't think its ever been studied whether the risk outweighs the benefit. I'll do a lit search when i get a chance to see if anyone has ever looked into that. Also, I'm interested in seeing what the longest is that an ECA stack has been studied and to see if they've reported any increased side effects with increased dose or duration of therapy. I'll keep you posted on anything that I may find.
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