18 lbs. since jan 4!!!

**SP1** · 02-12-2004, 03:33 PM

Whats up bros I just wanted to share what I have been doing for the last month and week with you guys.
6:45am Meal 1:6-8 egg whites, 2wheat toast with fat free creamcheese and sugar free straberry jelly, bowl of oatmeal and 44g whey pro with milk
1 tab of 4-andro(Nortek)
7:15, 5-10g of creatine
8:00 train 30min to 45min
8:45 4 scoops Massive whey gainer(93g carbs)
5-10g of creatine
11:00 Detour bar(30 g protein)
1:00 3-4 onces of fish, 1 serving of veggies, 2cups of rice or potatoes
V-8 juice
3:00 protein shake (44g)
5:00 3 cups pasta or 2 turkey burgers on wheat(make on george foreman grill, drains fat and tastes good)
7:00 Protein shake(44g)
8:30-9:00 chicken or steak as much as I have or could take down with1-2 cups of some type of carb
11:00 protein shake(44g)

some day will vary but that is the basis,
Itrain 1 body part a day, 3sets,4to6 reps
I stick to compound movements(bench, squats, deadlifts, barbell curls)
Ifollow a work out method that is on A site calle Max-OT, it is working!
bench went up from. 225 4times last set to 255 4times last set
curling barbell went from 115 to 135

I have put on a small amountof fat but I am lean either way. Iam at 190, but I am ectomorph so with all this weight I look 200

The biggest thing was that I stopped smoking cigs and bud, and layed off the drugs, I feel great! If any body thinks I should adjust stuff let me know!Itrain as hard as possible in the gym, so hard I feel like I am going to pass out or my head is going to pop, but the intensity helps me power up!

I am probably going to hit the juice next but am doing alot of research and reading alot of threads on the as forum!

**DBarcelo** · 02-12-2004, 05:02 PM

I would think that 1 tab of 4-andro wouldn't be enough to cause any results, but hey, you seem to be doing pretty good there. Keep the creatine at 5g at a time. Keep up the good work.

**SP1** · 02-12-2004, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by DBarcelo

I would think that 1 tab of 4-andro wouldn't be enough to cause any results, but hey, you seem to be doing pretty good there. Keep the creatine at 5g at a time. Keep up the good work.

Yeah the 1 tab gives me the kick i need, is more th 5g of creatine at atime bad?

**daman1** · 02-12-2004, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by SP1

Yeah the 1 tab gives me the kick i need, is more th 5g of creatine at atime bad?

it's not necessary. it will just go to waste.

**DBarcelo** · 02-12-2004, 05:51 PM

Yes, more than 5 grams of creatine at a time can be bad. It's not a matter of wasting it, you have other things to worry about like serum creatine levels, creatinine levels and serum creatinine levels. You can cause problems with your organs over a period of time. But on the days you're working your muscles more, you can get away with taking up to 10 grams.

**SP1** · 02-12-2004, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by DBarcelo

Yes, more than 5 grams of creatine at a time can be bad. It's not a matter of wasting it, you have other things to worry about like serum creatine levels, creatinine levels and serum creatinine levels. You can cause problems with your organs over a period of time. But on the days you're working your muscles more, you can get away with taking up to 10 grams.

Thank bro!

**SP1** · 02-12-2004, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by daman1

it's not necessary. it will just go to waste.

Thanks!

**KBZ** · 02-12-2004, 10:17 PM

Hey, so the andro really does help? Any side effects? I've looked into it and it seems too "unnatural" for me. But I may juice it when I fill out and turn like 20 or 21 or something (18 now) so I may take andro first so I can "work my way up" to the juice.

And also, you curl alot!! I bench ~370 but I know I can't curl 135 on the barbell, and the people I know that bench about where you are can only curl maybe about 105-115.

**SP1** · 02-15-2004, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by KBZ

Hey, so the andro really does help? Any side effects? I've looked into it and it seems too "unnatural" for me. But I may juice it when I fill out and turn like 20 or 21 or something (18 now) so I may take andro first so I can "work my way up" to the juice.

And also, you curl alot!! I bench ~370 but I know I can't curl 135 on the barbell, and the people I know that bench about where you are can only curl maybe about 105-115.

Whats up bro, the andro has worked for me, some might be mental but it is helping me power. As far as the curls arms has always been my strongest point, I would like to bench 370, thats heavy ****.