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    Receptor Sites pertaining to 4ad and m1t

    I heard that when using 4ad it goes after the same receptor sites as m1t does, reducing the chances of gains from m1t? is this true ? because this is how i cycle my 4ad and m1t

    7:30am ---5mg m1t,4-6squirts of 4ad
    3:30pm ---5mg m1t, 4-6squirts of 4ad
    9:00pm --- ,4-6 squirts of 4ad

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    From what i understand, m1t and 4-ad do work on the same receptors but taking 4-ad is not going to decrease your gains much, maybe like a pound or 2 max depending on the length of the cycle.

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    Ketofen helps bring up your beta-receptors, thus making a product you take better absorbed in your body.

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    is ketofen sold online supplement stores?

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    you don't have to worry about that. m-1t is a steroid , not a prohormone. They are not "converted" by the same enzyme.

    As for receptors, all anabolics target the same receptor. It's the downstream effects that make them differ from eachother, and those are compound specific. Have no fear.

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    so can u build a tolerance ? if i plan a 2nd m1t cycle i should up the dose from the 1st m1t cycle of 10mg a day?

    i still am confused about how m1t is considered a steroid and not a prohormone

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisAdams
    you don't have to worry about that. m-1t is a steroid , not a prohormone. They are not "converted" by the same enzyme.

    As for receptors, all anabolics target the same receptor. It's the downstream effects that make them differ from eachother, and those are compound specific. Have no fear.
    The compound though is like ephedrine in that it can lower your down regualtion and can cause the product to work a less effectively. It COULD happen, though. IF it did happen, then ketofen is something to aid in the process of bringing the production back up to par to help in absorbing a supplement better.

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    M1t is a steriod and 1-ad is prohormone/prosteriod, because 1-ad needs to be converted in the body to 1-test. M1t is a steriod because it doesn't need to be converted into anything, its alreadt 1-test.

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    4ad is active on its own w/o converting.

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    4-ad converts to testosterone .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    4-ad converts to testosterone.
    Duh. But thats not the end of the story.
    4-Androstenediol is not only a potent precursor to the anabolic hormone Testosterone , it is actually a true active anabolic steroid in its own right as well. Indications are that it has a relative anabolic potency to Testosterone on order of 95%.

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    where can i get ketofen

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