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    Duffers What da hell was I thinking blog

    Time to get accountable, right?

    I'm 56yo. 6'2" Been fighting age n genetics about 4 years now. TRT patient but been more blast than cruise. Diet shoud be cleaner but I do track it all. Protein is always about 1gram/lb. I need to tighten that up. I've been off over 6 months now n Damn I lost a lot. Sucks. My gym time is an hour/day. PPL. Chest heavy, back heavy, legs, bicep heavy, tricep heavy, off day.

    3 weeks in: 600 test prop / 450 tren ace
    20mg/day Dbol (dropped from 40mg. Stomach issues)
    1mg/wk Anastrazole (yes I'm an E2 machine)
    10mg/day Nolva
    HCG 500/wk
    NAC, Milk thistle, fist full of other worthless sups.
    Up 12 pounds so far @237
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    Time to get real

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    God I look like crap! Lol
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    Definitely following duff!
    This is the first step man.
    You hold your feet to the fire with a log and you will blow minds hoss

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    Look forward to seeing you progress pal!!

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    You just took a big step towards accountability. No excuse now. We are watching. Start busting some shit up.
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    I'm a night owl so my info will be for yesterday unless otherwise noted

    10 mins elliptical
    Oly bar curls: 45x8, 65x8, 85x6/6, 45x12
    Wide cable lat: 100x12, 120x8, 140x6/6/6
    Narrow cable row: 80x12, 100x12, 120x6/6/6
    Underhand cable lat: 80x12, 100x12, 120x8, 140x6/6
    DB shrugs: 50sx12, 60x12, 70x8, 60x10, 50x6 with holds
    Feeder DB press: 20sx50

    3100 cals, carbs 47%, fat 27%, protein 26% (180grams)
    Damn holiday food! Lol

    I hope my syntax makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    I'm a night owl so my info will be for yesterday unless otherwise noted

    10 mins elliptical
    Oly bar curls: 45x8, 65x8, 85x6/6, 45x12
    Wide cable lat: 100x12, 120x8, 140x6/6/6
    Narrow cable row: 80x12, 100x12, 120x6/6/6
    Underhand cable lat: 80x12, 100x12, 120x8, 140x6/6
    DB shrugs: 50sx12, 60x12, 70x8, 60x10, 50x6 with holds

    3100 cals, carbs 47%, fat 27%, protein 26% (180grams)
    Damn holiday food! Lol

    I hope my syntax makes sense
    Similar to my main workout. I do 15,12,10,8
    Let’s form the 1/2 century group and show the young gun toting yahoos how it’s done!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Time to get accountable, right?

    I'm 56yo. 6'2" Been fighting age n genetics about 4 years now. TRT patient but been more blast than cruise. Diet shoud be cleaner but I do track it all. Protein is always about 1gram/lb. I need to tighten that up. I've been off over 6 months now n Damn I lost a lot. Sucks. My gym time is an hour/day. PPL. Chest heavy, back heavy, legs, bicep heavy, tricep heavy, off day.

    3 weeks in: 600 test prop / 450 tren ace
    20mg/day Dbol (dropped from 40mg. Stomach issues)
    1mg/wk Anastrazole (yes I'm an E2 machine)
    10mg/day Nolva
    HCG 500/wk
    NAC, Milk thistle, fist full of other worthless sups.
    Up 12 pounds so far @237
    I read somewhere that you shouldn’t use milk thistle while on cycle. It supposedly blocks the androgen receptors and limits the effects of the cycle.
    I use NAC and TUDCA for liver support.


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    When I started 5 yrs back, I spent at least a year doing the 5x5 progression program and it worked awesome... Until I just got stuck. My strength kept growing until it didn't. I started messing with it. It became 6x5. Then 8x5. Fast reps. Slow reps. Holds. I added more exercises to each day.

    I still write on these sheets every day, every set, every rep, every weight. I have stacks n stacks of them. There is a key in this mess somewhere for me. Somewhere in the food, in the gym, in the AAS, to make this busted old body grow.

    When I hit that last set, I put it all out there. My wife won't go to the gym with my anymore. She sees my red face, my bulging veins, my sweat. She says, "you're going to die. I can't watch that"
    Young guy at the gym just last week jokingly warned me about how "you're going to pop a vessel man!"

    This run is highest tren ever for me. Highest E2 ever. (I always kept it crushed until now)

    Genetics. Age. Frustrating for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I read somewhere that you shouldn’t use milk thistle while on cycle. It supposedly blocks the androgen receptors and limits the effects of the cycle.
    I use NAC and TUDCA for liver support.


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    Interesting. Never heard that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Similar to my main workout. I do 15,12,10,8
    Let’s form the 1/2 century group and show the young gun toting yahoos how it’s done!!!!


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    Damn Skippy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Interesting. Never heard that one
    I didn’t do any research, but I did read it. I swear by NAC and TUDCA.


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    Fuggit. Adding Mast. Starting now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Fuggit. Adding Mast. Starting now.
    with your cycle your currently doing, I'm guessing it can only help. I like adding Mast to just about everything
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    Hell yeah brother, crush them gains! Logs are the way to go... plus you’ll always have the ability to scroll back to review what works and what doesn’t... super beneficial! Look forward to following along!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    with your cycle your currently doing, I'm guessing it can only help. I like adding Mast to just about everything
    Figure I've got some. Throw it in! Trying hard to not have to do every day pins so with some tweaks I can pin 3.2mls eod from my 3ml barrels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboymike View Post
    Hell yeah brother, crush them gains! Logs are the way to go... plus you’ll always have the ability to scroll back to review what works and what doesn’t... super beneficial! Look forward to following along!
    Thanx Cowboy! I sure appreciate your blog!

    Killed legs tonite. I'll post up in the morn

    Hot tub time!
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    10 min cardio
    Weighted calf raise: 200x12/10/10/8/8
    DB squats: 50sx8, 60x8, 70x6, 80x6, 90x4 (God I hate these. Get so winded)
    Squat press mach: 90x15, 180x12, 270x8, 360x6, (breather) 450x8, 540x8 with safety stop
    Leg ext mach: 210x8, 250x8, 300(mach max)x8/6/6
    Feeder cable preacher: 20x25/20 it burns, it burns!

    Wt 233.5, cals 2670 (tren appetite), carbs 32, fat 32, protein 36 (238g)

    Should have been a rest day but WTH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    10 min cardio
    Weighted calf raise: 200x12/10/10/8/8
    DB squats: 50sx8, 60x8, 70x6, 80x6, 90x4 (God I hate these. Get so winded)
    Squat press mach: 90x15, 180x12, 270x8, 360x6, (breather) 450x8, 540x8 with safety stop
    Leg ext mach: 210x8, 250x8, 300(mach max)x8/6/6
    Feeder cable preacher: 20x25/20 it burns, it burns!

    Wt 233.5, cals 2670 (tren appetite), carbs 32, fat 32, protein 36 (238g)

    Should have been a rest day but WTH!
    What do you want your macros to be? They look a little off.
    Also, I would go HIIT on cardio and increase the time a little.
    Do NOT listen to Cape and Obs. They resent cardio. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    What do you want your macros to be? They look a little off.
    Also, I would go HIIT on cardio and increase the time a little.
    Do NOT listen to Cape and Obs. They resent cardio. LOL


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    Macro planning? Lol! I wish

    Dude, I am SO open to suggestions! I eat as clean as I can stand but I'm admittedly weak. I spend all my feeding energy worrying about getting enough protein and eliminating sugars (my weakness) Where my fats n carbs end up is kind of a crap shoot.

    I don't do the cardio for any other benefit except to break a sweat, get my heart rate in the 140s, and lube up my screwed up knees n elbows. I do elliptical because of my knees. These knees don't run. HIIT cardio I'd never heard of. Looked it up. Not sure I'm clear on the benefit? I'm kinda thick headed haha! I used to do rowing machine until felt like my heart was gonna explode! Sux! On Tren ? Double sux!!!

    I need to drop a bunch of fluff I know but I'm not concerned. Yet. Dropping weight during the holidays? Tougher. Maintaining weight? No prob. I'll get serious about the fat come January... Just in time to kick some ass next Most Improved Competition ;-)

    I am a sponge tho. Trying to soak up every bit of info. Searching for the missing puzzle pieces that are holding me back. ALL assistance welcome! Thanx!!!
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    Stayed home last night. Watched movies n researched revamping my exercise regime. Even on a day off I'm studying!

    Cals 3275, carbs 26, fat 45, pro 29 (240g)

    Something is setting my stomach on fire 1st thing in the morn, after pills n some coffee. Antacid time I guess. Two 'tren coughs' in a row too
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    What are you looking to do right now? I recommend beginning to dial in your macros.


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    Right now all I want is size. Growth. Don't care how wet it is. I'll deal with that later. The only reason I'm doing tren is my NPP got lost n I got impatient. NOW it has just arrived. Been on tren-a about a month now. As much crap as I'm having with it (stomach n anxiety) I'm just gonna dump the Tren n add the NPP.

    Took wifee to Chinese for lunch. Nice plate of beef broccoli n hot tea. I get just a couple forks into it n we gotta leave. Stomach upset. Anxiety sensation. Suddenly really hot. Back home. Dammit. Pissing
    me right da fvck off

    I'll read up more on macros n its relationship to goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Right now all I want is size. Growth. Don't care how wet it is. I'll deal with that later. The only reason I'm doing tren is my NPP got lost n I got impatient. NOW it has just arrived. Been on tren-a about a month now. As much crap as I'm having with it (stomach n anxiety) I'm just gonna dump the Tren n add the NPP.

    Took wifee to Chinese for lunch. Nice plate of beef broccoli n hot tea. I get just a couple forks into it n we gotta leave. Stomach upset. Anxiety sensation. Suddenly really hot. Back home. Dammit. Pissing
    me right da fvck off

    I'll read up more on macros n its relationship to goals.
    If you want size, I would probably go f/p/c around 15/40/45 (%). Each person is different. Because of my carb sensitivity, I lower carbs and up protein.
    I have been noting you are taking in quite a bit of fat. Try it, allow time for your body to adjust and then adjust as needed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Stayed home last night. Watched movies n researched revamping my exercise regime. Even on a day off I'm studying!

    Cals 3275, carbs 26, fat 45, pro 29 (240g)

    Something is setting my stomach on fire 1st thing in the morn, after pills n some coffee. Antacid time I guess. Two 'tren coughs' in a row too
    I noticed you said "handful of useless shit"

    Well, I to take a handful of useless shit in the morning too, as soon as they get in my gut, I get this hot feeling in my stomach and back of throat.

    I narrowed it down to the herbal green tea thing I take with all kinds of "hyper" herbs and shit.

    I found splitting the "harsh" vitamins up till after breakfast took hotness away.

    But you're also on 900mg Tren , so I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I noticed you said "handful of useless shit"

    Well, I to take a handful of useless shit in the morning too, as soon as they get in my gut, I get this hot feeling in my stomach and back of throat.

    I narrowed it down to the herbal green tea thing I take with all kinds of "hyper" herbs and shit.

    I found splitting the "harsh" vitamins up till after breakfast took hotness away.

    But you're also on 900mg Tren, so I dunno.
    900 tren ??? Why do you need so much?


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    If you want size, I would probably go f/p/c around 15/40/45 (%). Each person is different. Because of my carb sensitivity, I lower carbs and up protein.
    I have been noting you are taking in quite a bit of fat. Try it, allow time for your body to adjust and then adjust as needed.


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    Yup! Time to tighten up this ship. Headed to the store now as a matter of fact. Wifee is well intentioned but I gotta take charge

    Thanx Charger! You don't know how much I appreciate the assistance. No homo. Ok, maybe a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Yup! Time to tighten up this ship. Headed to the store now as a matter of fact. Wifee is well intentioned but I gotta take charge

    Thanx Charger! You don't know how much I appreciate the assistance. No homo. Ok, maybe a little
    When you want to cut, I up the protein and lower the carbs. Once again, I am sensitive to carbs and a small change can have big results.
    Also, I recommend HIIT for cardio. High Intensity Interval Training- we used to call it fartlic training. Run about 90% for 30 sec and then walk for 30 sec (or 1 minute). Work up until it is about 50/50 (same amount of time).
    I find the treadmill is best for this. You get about the same amount of cardio as running in twice the time.
    You can do this on a bike or even the stair walker also.
    There have been studies that HIIT results in a longer calorie burn time than normal running.
    I like it because I do not need to spend so much time doing cardio.
    Swimming is also great cardio.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    900 tren ??? Why do you need so much?


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    "Because we aint fkin aroun roun here...

    Yo Dre, can I get a hell yeah?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    "Because we aint fkin aroun roun here...

    Yo Dre, can I get a hell yeah?"

    You are too old you wouldn't understand charger lol
    I tried 900 for two weeks and it felt like I wasn’t really living. It’s hard to explain. I said “fuck that!”.

    Must be you guys are using underdosed. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I tried 900 for two weeks and it felt like I wasn’t really living. It’s hard to explain. I said “fuck that!”.

    Must be you guys are using underdosed. LOL


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    But yeah...
    My shit must be 1/3 dosed.
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    Ummm... 900? Where'd da hell dat come from?!?

    Lol!

    Wait. I meant was, "Fuck yeah! Pussies! Git ya some o dat shizzle!!!"




    Wifee says oh hell no btw. 350 I can manage. 450 apparently is too much good stuff.

    Off to the gym I go!
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    ya'll gave me an idea on my next Tren run
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    ya'll gave me an idea on my next Tren run
    Uh oh. Don’t go getting into trouble!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    ya'll gave me an idea on my next Tren run
    You'll shoot yer eye out!
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    Been back from da gym half an hour. Heart still hurts! Lol

    One of the many changes to my slacking is intensity. I have not tweaked my exercises yet. I still think I'm overdoing each muscle group per session. Meaning too many similar exercises per session. Anyway 1st tweak is try to truly max each exercise by 3rd set, quick breather, drop weight, max again, breather, drop wt, max again. I don't have a partner so some pre planning is required. By time I finished I was on my knees, Damn near fetal. I still feel like crap. It's awesome! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    ya'll gave me an idea on my next Tren run
    What don't kill ya makes ya stronger. Or handicapped. Or incarcerated.
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    10 min cardio
    Hammer bench: 90x12, 160x8, 180x8, 200x10 short breather get pissed, 6, again for 6

    DB incline: 30s x12, 40x8, get pissed, 40s x10, 30s x8, 20s x12. NOW I'm in pain. The burn!

    Cable rope tris: (on my knees) 60x12, 100x12, eff this, max machine, 140x16, yeowch, quick drop to 120x12, tris on fire, shaking, 100x8 n I'm having a heart attack. Folded fetal hoping the other couple in the gym can't see me

    Walk it off. Think I'm done. Tank is low for sure. What to do, what to do.

    Hammer incline! 70x12, 120x12, 140x6/6

    I got nothing left. Arms barely working to wipe off bench. No big sweat tonite.... But Damn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    10 min cardio
    Hammer bench: 90x12, 160x8, 180x8, 200x10 short breather get pissed, 6, again for 6

    DB incline: 30s x12, 40x8, get pissed, 40s x10, 30s x8, 20s x12. NOW I'm in pain. The burn!

    Cable rope tris: (on my knees) 60x12, 100x12, eff this, max machine, 140x16, yeowch, quick drop to 120x12, tris on fire, shaking, 100x8 n I'm having a heart attack. Folded fetal hoping the other couple in the gym can't see me

    Walk it off. Think I'm done. Tank is low for sure. What to do, what to do.

    Hammer incline! 70x12, 120x12, 140x6/6

    I got nothing left. Arms barely working to wipe off bench. No big sweat tonite.... But Damn!
    Nice work duff!
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    So feeling as crappy as I was yesterday screwed my food fix in plans some cuz I didn't hardly eat all day. Then wifee, after $400 grocery bill, cooks me a ton of stuff to fix my numbers n I'm s'posed to cram it all in before bed lol! She's finally trained to look at protein numbers, now I gotta teach her about fat numbers :-)

    Weight 231.5, cals 1440, carb 28, fat 28, pro 44 (156g)

    Ate first tthing this morn. No coffee. Letting things settle before fist full of worthless shops in hopes that stomach don't fvck up again! So far so good
    Obs and Cowboymike like this.

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