07-19-2004, 12:02 PM #1
Jbigdog69 has ruined my clave training!
Well thanks to his advice of holding a contraction at the top i have been nuking my calves once a week and they literally are not recovering for the next session. Im gonna gave to start training them every 8th or 9th day! Anyone else find they need this kind of recovery for anything?
07-19-2004, 01:05 PM #2LM1332 Guest
so you are not doing heavy weight but rather mid light so that you can hold the weight at the top is that it?
07-19-2004, 01:12 PM #3
i thought everyone held at the top........ that's the pump..........The answer to your every question
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07-19-2004, 01:12 PM #4
thats the best way to train your calves bro.....slow and holding the contraction at the top. I love the feeling of the pump i get in my calves.
07-19-2004, 01:16 PM #5
TRY THIS.........get on the seated calve(free weight version) put about 2 plates on it(or whatever weight you can get about 20 reps with at one time). Simply just go till you reach 100 reps....if you have to stop rest only 10 seconds and begin again until youve reached 100 reps with good form.
07-19-2004, 01:45 PM #6
Bro you trippin...Originally Posted by Prime
07-20-2004, 05:57 AM #7Originally Posted by jbigdog69
my routein looks like this
2 sets each side of unilateral calve raises
1 set max reps reverse calve raises (to work the front muscle as in putting my heels on the block and lifting the front of my feet)
1 set whole stack calves
1 set whole stack calves. Absolultley no rest between sets, so its kinda one giant set.
07-20-2004, 07:31 AM #8
Keep going Bro...Originally Posted by Prime
07-20-2004, 09:27 AM #9Originally Posted by jbigdog69
07-20-2004, 09:47 AM #10
Ok then try this....Originally Posted by Prime
07-20-2004, 02:02 PM #11
I'm gonna try this next week. It sounds awesome. So 3x30-50 reps EOD is just to condition them?
Seated calf raises is not as much a volume/mass builder as Standing calf machine, right?
Reps 1-9 no pause but strict form and then 10th rep strict form and pause at the top? Complete 30 reps and call it a set? 30 seconds rest period and back into it?
My calfs are only measuring 17 inches and I'm 6'3" Please help!1111
07-20-2004, 02:16 PM #12
Correct...Originally Posted by 63190
07-22-2004, 09:17 AM #13
:Writing this down: I'm so psyched. I'm gonna hit my calves first for priority and second because I drive a six speed and working that clutch in traffic sucks.
07-22-2004, 02:04 PM #14
OK here's the way I ran it:
Seated calve raise: 1x12@135 1x12@180 1x10@225
Leg press calves: 1x12@270 1x10@360 1x8@450
Standing calve mach: 1x12@300 1x10@400 1x8@500
Body weight calves/super set shin raises:
1x30 1x40 1x50 pausing for 20 seconds at the top of every 10
My calves were quaking when I was holding for 20 for that last excersise. Must have looked like I was doing a booty hop as some women were looking at me funny.
But now I feel nothing.:/
07-22-2004, 02:07 PM #15
When did you do this routine??Originally Posted by 63190
Last edited by jbigdog69; 07-22-2004 at 02:28 PM.
07-23-2004, 02:04 AM #16
It was today. Now it's yesterday. (Oh no, Beatles song stuck in my head). I worked out at 10.5am and now it's 2:13am the next day. Swing shift sucks. I guess I just need to find the weight that works. That last set of seated calves felt like I was cheating for the last three reps. I guess I should have gone rest-pause and tried to do them slow and controlled. Or even just hit partial reps.
07-23-2004, 05:28 AM #17
**** thats alot of sets for your calves! Im surprised youre walking!
07-23-2004, 08:12 AM #18
Actually sounds like you were to heavy.Originally Posted by 63190
07-26-2004, 02:32 AM #19
I will be pausing for a second from now on. But it takes so much time.
Should I do this after work? Mondays I usually hit chest and back and that takes like an hour or so. Tuesdays, shoulders and that takes close to two hours. Wednesdays, Legs and that takes close to two hours with this new calve routine.
I'm thinking of taking advantage of my gym being open 24 hrs Mon-Wed nights and just doing calves on that time.
I need more time for cardio and abs. I can walk for a half hour at work on my lunch break.
Do 5 sets of roman chair every other day of 12-15 reps. Alternating days would be reverse crunches and side crunches.
07-26-2004, 08:26 AM #20
Exactly...Originally Posted by 63190
07-26-2004, 01:09 PM #21
That's what I'm gonna have to do. I was at the gym a little after 10:30 and didn't leave until after noon.
I'll just have to hit it up after midnight for my calve program. No adult swim tonight.
07-27-2004, 03:02 AM #22
ok did calves yesterday
2 sets unilateral calf raises each side 45kgs
1 set 50 reps front raises, pausing for a second at the top and holding for 5 every 5th.
1 set full stack, standing calves 14 reps, pausing for 2-4 seconds at the top
1 set stand bw raises 30 to complete fail,pausing for a second at the top and holding for 5 every 5th.
The rest i took between sets was around 10 seconds, which was teh time ti too to reconfigure the claf machine etc.
i couldnt even get lift my heels off the floor after that.
07-27-2004, 09:40 AM #23
OK here's what I did last night.
Seated Calve Raises
1x13@135, 1x10@180, 1x8@225
Leg Press Calve Extensions
1x14@360, 1x14@420, 1x8@510
Standing Calve Machine
1x10@360, 1x7@400, 1x7@500
Seeing as I wasn't able to crank out the same reps as when I started this program, I did the tibial excersises first when it came to the body weight sets. Tibs first then super setted claves.
1x20hold20sec21-30, 1x40holding every 10th, 1x50holding every 10th
1x30holding every 10th, 1x40holding every 10th, 1x50holding every 10th
Also this time go round, I held at the top of every movement for a full second. I think that's more a reason why I couldn't get the reps out that I did the first time. I guess next time I'll come down in weight so I can go back up in reps. I'll also make a mental effort to walk around using my calves all the time from now on. I don't feel so sore because I hardly use 'em just walking around.
07-27-2004, 09:46 AM #24
How do they feel today??Originally Posted by Prime
07-27-2004, 09:49 AM #25
I almost forgot to mention...."very important"Originally Posted by 63190
07-27-2004, 10:00 AM #26
I'll try that Wednessday.
07-27-2004, 10:03 AM #27
Oh yea!!!Originally Posted by 63190
Last edited by jbigdog69; 07-28-2004 at 07:48 AM.
07-28-2004, 01:40 AM #28
07-28-2004, 08:29 AM #29Originally Posted by jbigdog69
07-28-2004, 09:01 AM #30
Great News!!!!Originally Posted by Prime
07-29-2004, 09:33 AM #31
I had a crappy day. Got to the gym and had to hurry thru sets. And the leg press machine and standing calve machine were busy when I got off the seated calve machine.
1x15@135, 1x12@180, 1x8@225. I'm un able to reach the top for the last rep and put the machine on the start rack. I have to bail on the machine that last rep every time. Is this normal or over training?
45ºdonkey calve machine
1x8@120, 1x8@90, 1x10@75. I was not sure where to start at because I rarely use this machine. So I ended up doing drop sets.
Standing calve machine
1x15@360, 1x9@380, 1x10@480
Did sets of tibial excersises in between sets of 30 reps with a flex pause every 10th rep. Didn't have time for all the conditioning body weight stuff.
Then I did Full Squats on a racked back smith machine
1x10@135, 1x6@225, 1x8@205
Bent over glute machine, which has no stickers on the plates, so I can't tell what I'm lifting.
1x12@6 plates, 1x10@8, 1x8@10 plates
Standing Leg curls individually
1x8@30, 1x8@20, 1x8@10. The weight listed is what I had to drop to to complete the set.
Then Roman Chair for abs
1x7 1x10 1x13 1x7
No cardio, but that's ok. I lost 4 pounds from Saturday. Pisses me off. I'm under weight by the height chart, but I got a lil' gut going on.
07-29-2004, 09:41 AM #32
Nah...Originally Posted by 63190
07-29-2004, 10:16 AM #33
63190, how often are you working youre calves? Im still only doing them once a week. They are needing all six days in between to rest!
Come on Jbigdog i know you wanna tell me to up the frequency .
07-29-2004, 10:32 AM #34
Stop slacking!!!Originally Posted by Prime
07-29-2004, 12:54 PM #35
EOD, Prime. I'm not even sore today, I'm pissed. Calves are a puny 15".
How much rest should I get between sets? A friend of mine going for MD says 1-2 minutes gets you better results for bulk and strength.
Last edited by 63190; 07-29-2004 at 12:56 PM.
07-29-2004, 01:11 PM #36
I stretch after every set and hold for 1 to 1.5 minutes!!!Originally Posted by 63190
07-30-2004, 02:17 AM #37
07-30-2004, 03:28 AM #38
Calves are the only thing I dont train to failure. well i dont train them at all anymore, but when I did, if i tried 2 hold a rep at the top, they would knot up so bad if i didnt let go it felt like they were going to rip clean off...anyone else have this problem? I found it pretty frustrating..with that all or nothing mentality, i jsut stopped training them.
07-30-2004, 06:08 AM #39
how about an experiment?
My calves are a pretty simmilar size to 63190's. Ill work mine once a week going to total failure
he works them EOD and in two months we'll measure again and see who has gotten the most growth.
Last edited by Prime; 07-30-2004 at 06:15 AM.
07-30-2004, 06:10 AM #40
scratch that. I think mine are beginning to acclimatise to the sessions. Ill train em twice a week Monday and thursday.
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