Thread: who actually deadlifts
09-21-2004, 04:14 PM #1
who actually deadlifts
ok, i got 3 questions
1. how many people here actually deadlift
2. When you started deadlifting, in general, what did it do for your overall size and other lifts
3. what does your routine look like they day of deadlifting?
09-21-2004, 05:23 PM #2Originally Posted by IronReload04
09-21-2004, 05:43 PM #3
ive been deadlifting since i was 13, and ya bro it makes a big difference. not only for the back, but for all the supporting muscles you use as well. its just another excercise to add overall size. ive never done a back workout without it.
09-21-2004, 05:53 PM #4
I'll put my spin on this one for you...
I honestly just got serious about deadlifting maybe 4-5 months
ago after years of lifting... In those 4-5 months doing them and
going as heavy as possible every week they have done more for
adding thickness to my back then the last 2 years of everything
else without a doubt.. I almost always do them last in my routine
because after deadlifting i'm done, no way of doing anything else...
My basic back routine is this, but sometimes will change up T-Bar
Rows for Bent Rows or Dumbbell Rows:
Chin Ups 5-6 sets to failure
T-Bar rows 4 sets 6-8 reps
Seated Rows 4 sets 10-12 reps
Deadlifts 5 sets reps as follows 12,8,5,3,3
09-21-2004, 05:57 PM #5New Member
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1. I do.
2. It made me bigger.
3. I generally do rack pulls when I go heavy and speed work from the floor or an elevated box. Maybe once a month I actually pull heavy from the floor.
09-21-2004, 06:00 PM #6
Do you guys do stiff-legged deadlifts to target the hams (like I do) or over-under grip bent-knee that focus more on the back? I like the stiff-legged because of the thickness to hams and glutes and finish 'em off with roman chair extensions for lower back.
I started doing 'em when Chris Duffy (former IFBB) did them at a gym I worked out at years ago and he used to this CRAZY sh!t. He'd do deadlifts for an HOUR, 10-12 sets with the heaviest set being over 700lbs. I do four sets 225.
09-21-2004, 06:25 PM #7Junior Member
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who doesn't deadlift?
Actually last year I started doing them, totally made me stronger overall and it does alot for my back thickness. Go heavy or go home (or outside)
09-21-2004, 06:46 PM #8Originally Posted by IronReload04
I've been deadlifting for about a year now. Since i started, my back has gone from nothing to this. All of my other lifts have increased in a big way.
My routine starts with 225X10, goes to 275X6, to 315X3, 335X3 (always slowly increasing the poundages, started much lower.. but will continue to do the same reps). I pull from the floor, and follow up with stiff legged deadlifts and ham curls. I have a seperate day for the rest of my back, 4 days later.
09-21-2004, 06:55 PM #9
I pull from just off the floor. I set the pins on a rack to where the 45's are about 6-8 inches off the floor. In my opinion going from the floor involves the legs more than I would like so I like to start higher. I go 225x12 275x10 315x6 335x4 then i dropp to 135 after the last set and burn. I think it is the main mass builder for a great back.
I have never seen anyone in the gym I go to ever do them. People even look at me funny when I do them!
09-21-2004, 06:57 PM #10
i am convinced to start doing them. i have been lifting for a long time now and i am going to start.
can you just explain to me how to do it and proper form please
09-21-2004, 07:02 PM #11
deads are the shiznit. i like doing tbar rows too in a corner of a squat rack, using a bench press bar. i go for a max of 8 reps. super heavy. ive only seen one other guy in the gym do these i get alot of "wtf" looks when i do em. great workout.
09-21-2004, 07:03 PM #12Originally Posted by kloter1
09-21-2004, 07:04 PM #13
Keep your hands at or a little more than shoulder width, feet the same. I use overhand grip all the time. The key I think is to not arch your back. Keep your spine as straight as possible. The biggest key to doing heavy weight and not f***in up your back is to keep the bar close to your legs throughout the movement. I like to give a little shoulder shrugg at the top. I think that has really helped my traps and upper back.
09-21-2004, 07:07 PM #14
09-21-2004, 07:28 PM #15
Look at Ronnue Coleman's back. He does them. I don't believe you can get thick as hell without them. Got to go heavy for maximum effect.
09-21-2004, 07:30 PM #16Originally Posted by khurrams
09-21-2004, 07:34 PM #17Originally Posted by IronReload04
09-21-2004, 07:35 PM #18
Stiff legged deads if done right target the hams and glutes. Regular deads the back, shoulders,traps and legs
09-21-2004, 07:35 PM #19
Straight Legs Or Bent Legs?
By: Francesco Casillo.
Deadlift with straight, extended knees:
During the eccentric-descendent phase the degree of forward flexion of the trunk is greater, and therefore the partial center of gravity, fixes itself on a longer arm of a lever that involve a greater stress of paravertebral muscles that act on a shorter arm of a lever. Under a muscular point of view, during the concentric upward-phase, the short head of biceps femoris don't take part in the hip extension during the straightening of the trunk, because it's a monoarticular muscle.
Deadlift with bent (or half bent) knees:
During the eccentric-descendent phase the degree of forward flexion of the trunk is lesser than seen with extended knees because of the bending of the knees; and the more bent the knees are, the lesser the degree of forward flexion of the trunk and consequently lesser the stress beared by the paravertebral muscles.
Under a muscular point of view, the lesser flexion of the trunk forward will determine a lesser "relative shortening" of the Gluteus maximus muscle and Hamstrings and consequently a lesser stimulation of them during the following concentric-upward phase (if compared to the Deadlift performed with extended knees). If during the straightening of the trunk the knees are kept bent, it will cause the muscular intervention of the calves, popliteus muscle and short head of bicep femoris that help in maintaining the bent position of the knee for the whole range of movement (because they are knee flexors
09-21-2004, 07:38 PM #20
How could anyone not deadlift? I deadlift for much of the year with some rest periods where I focus on squats or some other grip intensive exercise. You can deadlift with any set rep scheme you feel fits into your program and is in line with your goals. Personally I found I get the best results doing 5-6 sets with 4-8 reps working up in a pyramid fashion.
09-21-2004, 07:39 PM #21
ok, so if i want to target my back, trapz etc, how bent shoulld i bend my knees
09-21-2004, 07:41 PM #22
Bend them slightly keeping the barbell close to your legs and until your back is levelled with the ground....inhale when going down and exhale when coming up...
09-22-2004, 08:57 AM #23
do your knees stay bent the whole time or are you supposed to straighen them more at the end of the positive ?
09-22-2004, 09:06 AM #24Anabolic Member
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my favorite exercise after chest
09-22-2004, 10:26 AM #25
1. I do two weeks in a row then off one
2. Made my lower back and traps hella big. Prolly helped forearms with all the wieght on em.
3. Lat pulls to warm up, deadlift 4 sets, bent over rows or seated rows, maybe DB rows, BB shrugs.
09-22-2004, 10:45 AM #26
I do but I also do my cleans with it.
09-22-2004, 11:11 AM #27
I deadlift. It's one of my favorite exercises. i work it it with dc training style so it's one of my 3 back workouts.
09-22-2004, 11:15 AM #28
Been doing deads for the past four years....every Monday. I even load the bar with 25's so as to get a deeper pull....bar looks kind of funny with 400 lbs in 25 lb plates.
I follow it with cleans, pull-ups and bent rows and seated rows.
It's made my back much thicker......but more than that I believe it has helped me with all my other lifts......my sqauts have deffinetly gone up big time since I put DL's in the routine.
09-22-2004, 11:24 AM #29
I do deadlifts because it's one of the lifts I compete in. I'm in the 165 lb class and want to pull 523 lbs in November at a meet. Anyway, deadlifts added to my overall back, trap, glute/ham, and leg size. I feel it's second best to the squat! My routine is usually based on a pyramid scale leading up to the heaviest weight right before a meet so the weights are always different.
09-22-2004, 11:57 AM #30
I have 2 herniated discs in my spinal column, so I must admit, I am too worried to do deadlifts, especially heavy ones. I am thankful that I can still do most other exercises, I don't want to push it. Anyone else have that problem and overcome it?
09-22-2004, 12:03 PM #31Originally Posted by JdJuicer
Take it slow, watch the form and once you get up in the poundage if you feel anything out of the norm with the back drop the weight and walk away. Hit it another day.
09-22-2004, 12:45 PM #32Originally Posted by Juggy Snout
I haven't done squats in a long time b/c of the back problem. I did them last week just to see what would happen. With only 150lbs it felt weird. It didn't hurt, but I could feel the disc rubbing against something b/c my spine was compressed. If I really screw it up, then I won't be able to lift anything. But I will try the deadlifts with really light weight and see what happens.
09-22-2004, 12:51 PM #33Originally Posted by JdJuicer
09-22-2004, 12:54 PM #34Originally Posted by Juggy Snout
09-22-2004, 12:59 PM #35
When I bulk in the winter i'd be a little b*tch if I wasnt doing heavy pulls. Shooting for 650 this winter without drawing a drop from a bottle. Deadlifts are about two things in my mind. Form and intensity. If you aren't pumped to deadlift the weight will vary like loose and tight.
Honestly when my deadlift starts going up it seems like every other lift is very close to follow. Any seroius lifter,regardless if they want muscle or strength needs to be pulling some seroius weight.
09-22-2004, 04:46 PM #36Originally Posted by IronReload04
09-22-2004, 05:06 PM #37Originally Posted by IronReload04
09-22-2004, 05:28 PM #38
thanx brudda. i am really pyched and pumped up to start doin em. it is the missing link to my program. Their aint nothing better than to see results from a new excersize
09-23-2004, 05:28 PM #39Associate Member
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Deadlifts make your back thick, builds your traps, and also hits your ham/glutes. I started deadlifting for strength, and my deadlift day looks like this right now.
Deadlifts warmups then 3x3
I lift at around 92% then drop to 60% every third or fourth week depending on how my lifting is going if I'm not getting ready for a meet.
09-23-2004, 06:19 PM #40
love 'em!! they have made my grip stronger,back thicker,and improved my overall strength.
dl routine=135x20,225x12,315x10,405x6-8,455x2-3.after this i do bent over rows and chainsaws and then im done!
on the other hand i do think dl should not be done with every back workout.do them every second one.thats just my opinion.
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