my weird workout!

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12-10-2004, 01:17 AM
HOLLYWOOD

my weird workout!

ok i've doing this workout i read about on the net! it consists of doing 10 sets of 1 rep with like your 80% 1RM and consistently decrease rest time between sets! now what i did was take this idea and down size it to 3 sets of about 95% 1RM with decreasing the rest time also until the 3 singles become 1 set of 3 complete reps! now this seems to be working actually my strength is going up considerably! i know this isnt a conventional way to train but when you think about it one way to add muscle is to make progress every time you training and with this program it is very easy to do so! i also know that 1 rep is not the best rep range fo hypertrophy, however because of the strength increases is it possible cause hypertrophy using this program?
12-10-2004, 10:03 AM
Hypertrophy

Yes, you could increase muscle mass off the program you mentioned. Why? Because you are recruiting fast twitch fibers, you are also maximally recruiting all fibers avaliable, or the maximum your body will let you recruit. These are both good things concerning growth/strength. However, the importance of this program would be strength, not size. Your main focus during a strength phase, would be to become significantly stronger. With this increase in strength, you can transition into a "hypertrophy/high volume phase" considerabley stronger than before. This is where your strength phases become paramount! We'll say that you were squatting 200lbs
4 sets of 10 (hypertrophy phase) before your strength phase. Then after the strength phase you squat 225 4 sets of 10. See how the strength phases come into play?
12-10-2004, 10:05 AM
Hypertrophy

I have no freaking idea why muscle mass is underline when I type it and it takes you to a supplement page. No clue!!
Anybody?
12-10-2004, 10:29 AM
HOLLYWOOD

haha you got me! is there any way to incorperate both???
12-10-2004, 10:37 AM
Dmize9

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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

Yes, you could increase muscle mass off the program you mentioned. Why? Because you are recruiting fast twitch fibers, you are also maximally recruiting all fibers avaliable, or the maximum your body will let you recruit. These are both good things concerning growth/strength. However, the importance of this program would be strength, not size. Your main focus during a strength phase, would be to become significantly stronger. With this increase in strength, you can transition into a "hypertrophy/high volume phase" considerabley stronger than before. This is where your strength phases become paramount! We'll say that you were squatting 200lbs
4 sets of 10 (hypertrophy phase) before your strength phase. Then after the strength phase you squat 225 4 sets of 10. See how the strength phases come into play?

Some kind of advertising or spyware is causing this..... run ad-aware and it should clean it up..
12-10-2004, 11:07 AM
Hypertrophy

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Originally Posted by crosby7117

is there any way to incorperate both???

Long Term, Yes. It is called periodization!
12-10-2004, 11:18 AM
SwoleCat

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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

I have no freaking idea why muscle mass is underline when I type it and it takes you to a supplement page. No clue!!
Anybody?

I heard it's a virus of some sort.

Seriously.

~SC~
12-10-2004, 11:20 AM
Hypertrophy

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I heard it's a virus of some sort.

Seriously.

~SC~

Everyone can calm down now. Swole is still helping out in the workout forum. :wg:
I'll check my pooter and see what's up.
Thanks
12-10-2004, 11:20 AM
BigJames

Get ad-aware and do a check for spyware...
12-10-2004, 11:21 AM
Hypertrophy

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Originally Posted by BigJames

Get ad-aware and do a check for spyware...

Is that stuff free?
12-10-2004, 11:33 AM
*Narkissos*

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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

Is that stuff free?

http://www.download.com/

Yup
12-12-2004, 05:13 PM
HOLLYWOOD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

Long Term, Yes. It is called periodization!

hyper, which would produce better and/or quicker gains; non-linear or linear periodization???
12-13-2004, 03:29 PM
Hypertrophy

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosby7117

hyper, which would produce better and/or quicker gains; non-linear or linear periodization???

There is more research to support non-linear (undulating) periodization over linear periodization. I would run an entire macrocycle of both and see which one works best for you~
12-13-2004, 04:33 PM
HOLLYWOOD

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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

There is more research to support non-linear (undulating) periodization over linear periodization. I would run an entire macrocycle of both and see which one works best for you~

ive atually been researching these two training principles and every study on linear has said that the 2 main macro cycles is a bad idea because if your current macro cycle is for strength then you tend to loose a little size because your body cannot train at 90% and over for longer than 3 weeks tops and you will go into a state of over training! also because you're not training to grow you wont and you may even risk atrophy! same with when you're in the hypertrophy macro cycle you loose strength! so what better way to use these priciples! put em together! so what do ya think hyper???
12-15-2004, 11:55 AM
Hypertrophy

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosby7117

ive atually been researching these two training principles and every study on linear has said that the 2 main macro cycles is a bad idea because if your current macro cycle is for strength then you tend to loose a little size because your body cannot train at 90% and over for longer than 3 weeks tops and you will go into a state of over training! also because you're not training to grow you wont and you may even risk atrophy! same with when you're in the hypertrophy macro cycle you loose strength! so what better way to use these priciples! put em together! so what do ya think hyper???

OK, this is hard to explain on a message board, but here goes: A macrocycle is the largest division and can last up to one year. You should never train for strength/power/hypertrophy/endurance for an entire macrocycle. That would defeat the purpose of Periodization. Periodization is the manipulation in training specificity, volume, intensity, etc. in order to promote long term gains. Therefore, your macrocycle should consist of mesocycles and microcycles. These are subdivisions lasting one week up to several months depending on ones goal. The incorporation of these cycles eliminates the problem you mentioned about running an entire marcocycle of strength, etc, and losing strength or size. You mentioned that after 3 weeks in a strength phase, your body begins to breakdown and you are overtrained. I would then incorporate a 3 week microcycle of strength, then unload or have a one week reduced volume phase to allow for supercompensation and transition into your hypertrophy/power/endurance (whatever you desire) phases. Within this approach I would use an Undulating Periodization (non-linear). A basic example might be:
Weeks 1-8: Hypertrophy Phase
Week 9: Unload
Weeks 10-13: Strength Phase
Week 14: Unload
Weeks 15-19: Power Phase
Week 20: Unload
The duration and type of training in each phase is totally dependent upon the person's goal and their ability to recover and adapt. Trained subjects adapt much more quickly as compared to untrained. You'll need to listen to your body and monitor your progress. This is why keeping a training log is invaluable! Hope this helped?
12-15-2004, 01:51 PM
HOLLYWOOD

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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

OK, this is hard to explain on a message board, but here goes: A macrocycle is the largest division and can last up to one year. You should never train for strength/power/hypertrophy/endurance for an entire macrocycle. That would defeat the purpose of Periodization. Periodization is the manipulation in training specificity, volume, intensity, etc. in order to promote long term gains. Therefore, your macrocycle should consist of mesocycles and microcycles. These are subdivisions lasting one week up to several months depending on ones goal. The incorporation of these cycles eliminates the problem you mentioned about running an entire marcocycle of strength, etc, and losing strength or size. You mentioned that after 3 weeks in a strength phase, your body begins to breakdown and you are overtrained. I would then incorporate a 3 week microcycle of strength, then unload or have a one week reduced volume phase to allow for supercompensation and transition into your hypertrophy/power/endurance (whatever you desire) phases. Within this approach I would use an Undulating Periodization (non-linear). A basic example might be:
Weeks 1-8: Hypertrophy Phase
Week 9: Unload
Weeks 10-13: Strength Phase
Week 14: Unload
Weeks 15-19: Power Phase
Week 20: Unload
The duration and type of training in each phase is totally dependent upon the person's goal and their ability to recover and adapt. Trained subjects adapt much more quickly as compared to untrained. You'll need to listen to your body and monitor your progress. This is why keeping a training log is invaluable! Hope this helped?

ya it did help alot actually! THANKS HYPER!