Thread: DC training
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12-15-2004, 10:19 PM #1
DC training
ok i have question about the doggcrapp training, im looking at this as 3 seperate sets by themselves! ok the first set of the 3 is in the range of 8-10 now does this first serve as the hypertrophy set per say, and do the lower rep range sets serve as strength sets to improve strength is this how it works! i know that your skeletal muscle system and CNS doesnt know weight but the stress that it has to deal with!!! so i would like to know how these 3 sets serve as if you were to disect them into individual sets according the rep ranges given by dante!
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12-16-2004, 09:00 AM #2Junior Member
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Why do you need to overanalyze this so much, these sets are for strength and size, that is the idea here, to go to positive and negative total momentary muscle failure, this with mass amounts of protein and rest will make you grow, and grow fast, plain and simple, no need to bring science in, just lift and lift hard...
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12-16-2004, 10:23 AM #3AR Hall of Fame
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Dang bro, people can't even ask questions?
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12-16-2004, 01:03 PM #4
im not trying to overanalyze this im trying to get a deep understanding of this program is this too much to ask??? in order to understand something you need to know the mechanics behind it!
SWOLECAT can you answer this question i have, i know you dont know much about DC training but just take the rest/puase try to analyse this part of it, ill give you a run down! ok you take a weight you can push for 8reps rest 15-20sec, 3-4reps rest for 15-20 sec,1-2reps .... now i want to know is do the last 2 set in this giant set act as strength sets because of the low rep range or does this not count because of the quick breaks, or does it count as strength sets because it's only a 15sec break??? this is what i want to know! i want to know why it makes you stronger i believe this type of training does however i dont know the mechanics of why it makes you stronger! because the first set is based on higher reps then there's the lower reps come into play after the first set but can these account for the strength increase??? or like i said or is the 15sec breaks just gonna make you more cardio vascular fit because you're not using optimum strength you could be starting fresh in a set!! see what i meen???
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I'd say go to the source of the info, as I've no idea and don't speculate.
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12-16-2004, 05:02 PM #6
ok thanks anyway!
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12-16-2004, 06:01 PM #7Junior Member
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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12-16-2004, 06:20 PM #8AR Hall of Fame
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CAPS......
Originally Posted by In-Human
~SC~Last edited by SwoleCat; 12-16-2004 at 07:00 PM.
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12-16-2004, 09:39 PM #9Originally Posted by In-Human
and second i thought this was a question board where people go for help on issues they are not clear on???Last edited by crosby7117; 12-16-2004 at 09:55 PM.
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12-16-2004, 10:14 PM #10Junior Member
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Originally Posted by crosby7117
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12-16-2004, 10:47 PM #11Swellin Guest
Geez! I missed out on the flaming part of this. I certainly didn't see IH's comment to be as negative as it was taken.
Crosby, I have witnessed your questions on this, so I know the history. Why not go over to IntenseMuscle and ask these exact same questions in the forum dedicated to DC training, and headed up by Dante himself?
As SC said, if you don't like the answers you are getting...go to the source.
Good luck with your training.
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12-16-2004, 10:54 PM #12Originally Posted by In-Human
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12-16-2004, 10:57 PM #13Originally Posted by In-Human
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12-20-2004, 08:06 PM #14
bump, interesting question
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12-20-2004, 08:31 PM #15Originally Posted by IronReload04
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12-21-2004, 02:51 PM #16Originally Posted by crosby7117
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12-21-2004, 05:25 PM #17
quality answer bro. seems logical enough
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12-21-2004, 09:31 PM #18Originally Posted by Hypertrophy
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12-22-2004, 03:50 PM #19Originally Posted by crosby7117
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12-22-2004, 04:27 PM #20Originally Posted by Hypertrophy
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12-22-2004, 10:19 PM #21New Member
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Originally Posted by crosby7117
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12-22-2004, 11:07 PM #22
are static holds a must when training with this program?
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12-23-2004, 05:59 AM #23New Member
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No. They are not a must. And i quote DC:"Honestly guys the static means very little in the grand scheme of things (dont sweat the small stuff here)
Alot of people do it different ways I notice and i really dont correct them on it to much--time under tension--some exercises i wait and breathe and some exercises i do the statics right after the last rep---your not doing anything progressive on the static--its not like you can log it and try to beat it.....now if we are talking about the logbook--thats something you got to worry about--because thats your arch enemy"
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12-23-2004, 07:39 AM #24
I don't do the static holds.
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12-23-2004, 02:49 PM #25Swellin Guest
I do statics, because the RP's don't fully get me what I want. I was considering increasing the frequency of training to 4 days a week M/T/TH/F, but IH talked me out of it. He talked me into doing statics, and it really helped me. No need to increase frequency, just the intensity (by adding statics).
The way you can compete against your previous lift on statics is by trying to go for a longer time before failure. I write down the duration on stitcs in my logbook, and force myself to beat the previous time (unless I have increased the weight for my RP's, as i use the same weight for statics as RP's).
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12-23-2004, 05:15 PM #26Junior Member
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You can also take less breaths in between the RP workset and the static, this will make that much harder...
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12-24-2004, 05:31 PM #27Member
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sorry to hijack but for the rest pause would u pick a weight that u can do 15 reps with and do the rest pause thing or do u choose a weight that you can do 8 and then do the rest pause and sqeeze in more reps?
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12-24-2004, 10:42 PM #28Originally Posted by mitch911
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12-25-2004, 12:19 AM #29Junior Member
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Originally Posted by mitch911
The main idea here is to be able to use the heaviest weight you can with perfect form to concentrate on the negative portion of the movement, explosive positive and a controlled negative, so you will have to find the weight to use for each exercise the first two rotations, this is a drop your ego and pick a weight you can concentrate on that form, most RP worksets will be 11-15 reps and a few 15-20 unless you are going very high with 15-30 for the total number of reps. Just try to get the desired reps in the worksets, each RP workset numbers will vary from person to person...
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so if i take bench press for example...i can do 8 sets with 200 then i rest for 20 sec ...throw on more weight which will allow me to lift 3 reps and then rest for 20 sec..and then add more weight to do 1 rep?
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12-25-2004, 12:55 PM #31Junior Member
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Originally Posted by mitch911
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12-25-2004, 01:47 PM #32Swellin Guest
Just to clarify...you do not change the weight. Use whatever iweight it takes to get into the desired total rep range. As IH said, this will take you a couple of rotations to figure out how much weight to use. I suggest spending your fiurst month soing straight sets and getting a feel for the program. During that month, slowly add in RP sets to get a better feel for it. This way you will have a much better handle on what you are doing before you try and go all out with RP's and statics.
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