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01-09-2005, 10:41 PM #1
Why strenght does not equal size?
Why is it that some people that lift the same weight, can have such different muscle size? Just genes?
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01-09-2005, 10:43 PM #2
Personally I think their diets are lacking... thats why they gain strength but not size.
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01-09-2005, 10:51 PM #3
It's mostly genetics.
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01-09-2005, 10:51 PM #4Junior Member
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For the same reason that someone with much less muscle in their legs can sometimes beat a well defined sprinter in a race.
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01-09-2005, 10:54 PM #5
i think mostly genetics, but some diet as well.
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01-10-2005, 10:05 AM #6Originally Posted by Chrizzum
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01-10-2005, 10:21 AM #7
People are different and their muscles come in different density. I'm not a small guy at 5 ft 10 255 lbs but I can usually outlift and put to shame dudes much bigger than myself in the gym.
Other factors that come into play are training methods. The biggest guy in my gym (muscle wise) is about 6 ft 295 but he works with 225 on the bench and military presses with 135, he is a body builder that concentrates on swelling his muscles up and not shooting for power. For me the look means nothing without the strength to back it up.
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01-10-2005, 10:46 AM #8Originally Posted by marka
i believe that every individual can impro ve on any part of the equasion
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01-10-2005, 10:49 AM #9
i have seen people like you are talking about, and what i said before seems pretty logical.
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01-10-2005, 10:53 AM #10
Great answers. Thanks.
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Well power and size mut go together some cause All the top bodybuilder can use some pretty serious weight. I'm sure Ronnie coleman would not waist his time squating heaving weight and putting his body at risk if lighter weight would do the trick. I always get a kick at looking at these smaller guys lift more weight the the big dudes. Look close enough and you might really see why. From what I have seen they lift faster which fast lifting does not recruit muscle fibers like slower lifting. Then they might have shorter arms or legs or better connected joins. If your really want to cheat and lift more you will. Just look at how many people on this forum claim to bench so much or squat so much and their build does not even look close to doing it.
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01-10-2005, 10:58 AM #12Originally Posted by marka
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01-10-2005, 11:53 AM #13
Ratio of fast/slow twitch fibers. Origin and insertion of muscles. Anthropometrics. Style of training. Level of neuromuscular adaptation. Technique. Experience.
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01-10-2005, 01:13 PM #14Originally Posted by Odin
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01-10-2005, 01:52 PM #15AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by needmorestrength
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01-10-2005, 01:53 PM #16AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by Odin
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01-10-2005, 02:00 PM #17Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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01-10-2005, 02:41 PM #18Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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01-10-2005, 07:54 PM #19Member
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Originally Posted by IronReload04
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01-10-2005, 08:01 PM #20
They have studies that doing slow reps makes no difference you don not build more muscle
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01-10-2005, 08:17 PM #21Member
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The goal when lifting should be to get the same resistence throughout the hole range of movement. I used to lift faster and I never felt the squeeze at the end of the reps as I do now, I'm also about 50 pounds heavier too and that just in 1.5 years.
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01-10-2005, 08:21 PM #22
well maybe you didnt have proper form because super slow reps is such a crock
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01-10-2005, 08:26 PM #23
It comes down to a combination of genetics and training. If you hold training fixed and only consider biological reasons which range from different muscle fibre makeups, neurolgical response times, mechanical leverage and joint relationships, and a myriad of other biological factors.
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01-10-2005, 09:18 PM #24Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Hypertrophy
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01-10-2005, 09:24 PM #25Originally Posted by Odin
Last edited by IronReload04; 01-10-2005 at 09:26 PM.
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I should not say that I lift slow, I do agree with you that when you lift heavy enough that it seems slow. I lift DC sytle so I never really lift lift so their no chance of going fast. Getting back to the main subject to compare a skinny guy and and a bigger guy in strength; the form, range of motion, and way the weight is handle should be the same.
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01-11-2005, 10:11 AM #27
You guys are confusing the speed of the lift itself with the speed of contraction of your muscle fibers. Two totally different things.
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01-11-2005, 10:17 AM #28Originally Posted by Hypertrophy
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01-11-2005, 10:31 AM #29Originally Posted by Odin
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