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01-16-2005, 02:13 AM #1Retired Vet
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Why Cardio & Weights Should Be Split
Why Cardio & Weights Should Be Split
I have seen many threads in the past asking the same two questions over and over:
Should I perform cardio directly before weights?
Should I perform cardio directly after weights?
The simple answer is: NEITHER.
There is a little debate about this, but it should be quite simple to understand IMO. This is one of the main things that a lot of people do improperly, and can certainly hinder their goals; be it either fat-loss or increasing muscle mass.
Should I perform cardio directly before weights?
This is not recommended for two main reasons.
Reason One: You will be too physically drained after a cardio session to give the required effort to perform a superior workout.
Reason Two: You should have ample amounts of fuel in your system before exercising properly. It will generally take six hours, depending on meal placement to do so. Below is a quote from dalcowbag supporting this:
Originally Posted by dalcowbag
Should I perform cardio directly after weights?
I figured that I would let some of SwoleCat’s various quotes of advice explain this, so I’m not just retelling what I’ve read. Below is a compilation of the better posts I’ve read regarding Cardio after weights:
Originally Posted by SwoleCat
--Blown_SC the thief
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01-16-2005, 02:24 AM #2
What's the over/under on how many times this thread will be linked in the coming months in various other cardio threads? 20? 30?
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01-16-2005, 03:03 AM #3Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by Aboot
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01-16-2005, 03:47 AM #4
good post blown
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01-16-2005, 03:52 AM #5Originally Posted by Aboot
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01-16-2005, 03:55 AM #6Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
Men are talking...
(Thanks to Deca for that one lol)
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01-16-2005, 08:02 AM #7Anabolic Member
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I have known this for years but I always see guys/gals jumping off the eliptical straight to the machines or free weights. If I know them or they ask I explain to them the con's but only after I ask them what are their goals and what do they expect to achieve. Then most of the time they realize. Heck, I was in their position before so I am happy to give sound advice to help someone who really needs it.. I also explain that on occasions it may be acceptable to due some post cardio AFTER weights(never prior) but minimum! Cases like this may be after a hard leg workout to help recovery and flush free radicals from the lower body. Others may disagree on this and that's cool too..
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01-16-2005, 09:45 AM #8AR Hall of Fame
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Great post!
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01-16-2005, 12:15 PM #9
about the needing 3 meals and 6 hours before a workout. first off all, i always do get in three meals and 6 hours before a workout in the first place. but what the heck do you do when you have to lift in the morning? what the hell does a guy who needs to be at the gym at 6 am do?
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01-17-2005, 11:12 AM #10
Good post
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01-17-2005, 11:18 AM #11AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by IronReload04
Takes longer to reach results, but at least they are good results.
Working out on E in the a.m. is not a good idea either, but that's another E-book in the making.
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01-17-2005, 04:17 PM #12Retired Vet
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Thanks Swole...
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01-17-2005, 06:18 PM #13
i have gotten my best results from running and then lifting. when i was playing football at a local juco last season the coach had us going mon/wed/fri and the defense would run first then go straight to lifting and the offense would lift and then go straight to running. so we would do about an hour of cardio and then lift for another hour. i see now that this is foolish (after reading these posts) but i gained more weight (and increased speed) working out this way..
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01-17-2005, 11:03 PM #14
Great post...interesting read.
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01-18-2005, 12:40 PM #15
Good post!
I say it gets linked 15-20 times easily.
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01-18-2005, 01:37 PM #16
Man do I feel like a fool. I am one of the idiots that asked this very question. This is stuff I shoudl have known! The above suggestion was made and it shall be followed. For all the newb's: Listen to these guys they know what they are talking about! Great post Blown!
Keep on keepin on!
Jonny.
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01-18-2005, 10:06 PM #17
Lines are out - O/U 27 o(-105)
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01-18-2005, 11:23 PM #18Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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01-19-2005, 01:01 AM #19
for me it only took one time of doing cardio before doing my weights to realize i was drained of precious energy needed to lift. but i do have a question.. if i do am cardio an wait 6 hours (after eating 3 meals).. will i have as much energy to lift as if i had not done morning cardio?
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01-19-2005, 01:12 AM #20Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by HiFi
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01-19-2005, 10:27 PM #21
what if you lift at night, say 9-10pm.. Then eat your pwo and ppwo meals then go to bed... And you sore the next morning and your body is telling u it need protein/food.. Is it best to still do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach with sore muscles??
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01-19-2005, 10:36 PM #22Retired Vet
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You're body isn't just telling you it needs nourishment.. you need proper REST....
BTW, what do you do for nourishment b4 bed? Whey shake with flax?
Yes, still do your cardio in the AM, I do.
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01-19-2005, 10:47 PM #23
I do 75gram dex and 40gram protien at 10pm after gym... Than at midnight I do 5 egg whites, 1 yoke, 2-3 slivers of ham..
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01-19-2005, 10:51 PM #24Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by solid-d
I'd suggest a whey shake with Udo's/Flax ...
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01-20-2005, 10:31 AM #25
So 2 whey shakes after my workout? 1 with dex right after gym at 10pm, And 1 right before bed with flax..??
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01-20-2005, 10:50 AM #26Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by solid-d
Before bed, yes, whey shake with flax or Udo's oil will be good.
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01-20-2005, 10:57 AM #27
bout how many grams of flax before bed?
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Originally Posted by solid-d
You can try casein protein as well, pricey but good, or cottage cheese... up to you..... some ppl prefer solid food to shakes
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01-31-2005, 04:18 PM #29Associate Member
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why is cardio after the weights bad? is it the meal that you intake after you do the workout? i am still a little bit unclear.
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01-31-2005, 04:24 PM #30Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by se11
Cardio after weights is pretty pointless. You cut into recovery time from an anaerobic activity by introducing an aerobic activity. Secondly, you MUST ingest a simple carb/protein shake (dex/pro) after working out, so as soon as you step off the cardio machine and down that shake, you immediately blunt lipolysis. (Fat burning stops cold!)
That's it, plain and to the point.
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01-31-2005, 05:42 PM #31Associate Member
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so then what kind of meal should you intake after a cardio workout alone?
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01-31-2005, 06:04 PM #32Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by se11
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02-01-2005, 12:59 AM #33Originally Posted by Aboot
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02-01-2005, 01:00 AM #34Originally Posted by se11
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02-02-2005, 01:45 AM #35Member
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ok i gotta question bros, when u talkin about doing cardio how long r u guys talkin about exactly, i've recently just started doin like 20minutes of runnin b4 my workouts n im wonderin based on wat i read if its useless, it gets my blood goin n i feel pumped ready to hit the weights, any input apprieated
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02-02-2005, 07:57 AM #36
Ok but then when it is the proper time to cardio if you must do weight train in the morning.Should i do it aftel the last meal prior to sleep to burn fat,or i hinder gains with this?
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02-02-2005, 01:26 PM #37Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by GORILA-UNIT
I often do 5 mins of cardio before I lift just to warm up a little bit before I work out.... but I make sure not to tire myself at all so my workout's intensity doesn't suffer...
If you are hoping on fatloss from that 20 mins, you'd be better to do so in the AM on an empty stomach...
Cardio before working out isn't great because it DOES tire you some, which will affect the intensity of your workout....
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Originally Posted by R69
"Probably workout one day, cardio a.m. only the next, etc., in a pattern like this.
Takes longer to reach results, but at least they are good results."
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02-02-2005, 01:39 PM #39
I've been doing 45-60 minutes of cardio in the AM and then doing weight training right afterwards, then doing another cardio session of 30 minutes in the afternoon for the past year. I've been giving a thought to doing my cardio in the AM and then coming back in the evenings to do weight training.
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02-02-2005, 01:56 PM #40Retired Vet
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