deadlift?!quick help needed

aight guys i dont no where to put my deadlift in my workout so if yall could take a look and tell me what i need to get rid of to put deads in or not get rid of to put deads in im prefering this day on my back/bi day but i have no idea on what exersise i have that i dont need so if yall could help that would be great heres my workout routine for the week thanks

Monday
Chest:
Cable fly’s (3 15)
Bench (dumbbell or barbell) (1 10) (2 8) (2 6)
Incline (dumbbell) (3 8)
Incline fly’s (3 10)
Dips (3 20)
Calves:
Donkey calve raises (2 25)
Standing calve raises (2 25)
Seated calve raises (2 25)

Tuesday
Legs:
Leg press (3 12)
Smith machine squat (3 6)
Lying leg curl (4 12)
Seated let curl (4 8)
Abs:
Crunches (2 50)
Lower raises (2 20)
Mach. crunches (2 50)

Wednesday-rest

Thursday
Shoulders:
Dumbbell lateral raises (L-shape) (3 10)
Dumbbell shrugs/barbell shrugs (1 10) (3 10)
Shoulder press (2 10)
Rear delt machine reverse pec-deck
Triceps:
Push downs (2 12) (2 10)
Over-head cable extensions (2 12)
Skull crushers (2 10)
Close-grip bench (2 10)
Calves:
Donkey raises (2 25)
Standing calve raises (2 25)
Seated calve raises (2 25)


Friday-rest

Saturday
Back:
Lat pull-down (2 12) (2 10)
Seated cable rows (3 10)
Hyperextension (3 10)
Wide grip chin-ups (4 6)
Biceps:
Barbell curl/dumbbell curl (2 10) (2 8)
Hammer curls (3 10)
One arm mach. curls (2 failure)
Abs:
Crunches (2 50)
Lower raises (2 20)
Mach. crunches (2 50)


Sunday - Rest

oh ya and ps: if yall would like to comment on my workout alone feel free to let me no what u think thanks

Do them first thing on your back day.

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Originally Posted by Iowa

Do them first thing on your back day.

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i was also thinking that but i have alot of back exersises and i didnt no if i should get rid of one in change for deads cuz i would think doing deads then the rest would be way to much

your back workout looks alot like mine. I do them last on back day. I am usually so dead after doing them and thats why they are the last exercise for me.

Deads should be done 1st in your back workout so you can put maximum energy into your lift. If youre going to slack on one back exercise, deads aren't the one.

Deads, a row, and pulldowns/pullups will be more than enough for a back workout IMO. Just give it a shot. You're not going to know unless you try.

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Originally Posted by Iowa

Deads should be done 1st in your back workout so you can put maximum energy into your lift. If youre going to slack on one back exercise, deads aren't the one.

Deads, a row, and pulldowns/pullups will be more than enough for a back workout IMO. Just give it a shot. You're not going to know unless you try.

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aight bro thanks ill give it a shot and see how things go thanks for all the help

justin

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Originally Posted by Iowa

Deads should be done 1st in your back workout so you can put maximum energy into your lift. If youre going to slack on one back exercise, deads aren't the one.

Deads, a row, and pulldowns/pullups will be more than enough for a back workout IMO. Just give it a shot. You're not going to know unless you try.

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i disagree. Your back has a large number of muscle groups and therefore needs more sets/exercises than say, your chest or arms.

You've got
lats
traps
erectors
teres major
rhomboids

that's 5 different muscles. if you're only doing three exercises, that's fewer exercises than muscles you're working.

I do deads, bent over rows, wide grip pulldowns, and then upright rows superseted with dumbell shrugs.

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Originally Posted by Dude-Man

i disagree. Your back has a large number of muscle groups and therefore needs more sets/exercises than say, your chest or arms.

You've got
lats
traps
erectors
teres major
rhomboids

that's 5 different muscles. if you're only doing three exercises, that's fewer exercises than muscles you're working.

I do deads, bent over rows, wide grip pulldowns, and then upright rows superseted with dumbell shrugs.

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As far as needing more exercises to work all the muscles in your back...Deads work all those muscles and then some (ie legs/forearms/bis). If you go balls to the wall on deads, you should have a hell of a back workout. BTW, I do shrugs on back day too, so our workouts are pretty much exactly the same. We just have a different perspective on why we do what we do.

lots of people do traps with their shoulder workouts... they can do upright rows to stimulate both the delts and the traps, and then move on to shrugs.

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Originally Posted by AandF6969

lots of people do traps with their shoulder workouts... they can do upright rows to stimulate both the delts and the traps, and then move on to shrugs.

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you're going to hit your rear and medial delts on back day anyway if you do any rowing motions. I don't even have a shoulder workout... i just throw lateral raises in my chest workout.

I do my deadlifts once every two weeks and alternate between an extensive back routine one week, and solely deadlifts, rack pulls and some stiff leg deads during the other week. For me, I get better pulls and I'm not drained for my other back exercises and can put more intensity into them.