Workout ?

**novastepp** · 05-02-2005, 12:10 PM

i'm bulking a little (lean mass) eating more w/ good diet and have no huge goals, just want to add a lilttle. i got my diet, and workout down, but would it hurt if i woke up ran on empty, ate my oatmeal and protein for breakfast, and worked out maybe a half hour after that? or should i wait longer? -take care and thanx

**Testsubject** · 05-02-2005, 12:43 PM

Don't do cardio on an empty stomach unless you are trying to shed fat, if you are trying to bulk this will hurt the prosses.

**BlueAndromeda73** · 05-02-2005, 12:55 PM

Also I've heard and practiced that if you are going to work out twice a day, wait at least 6 hours in between your body needs time to recover especially if you a re bulking otherwise you will be doing more harm then good.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-02-2005, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73

Also I've heard and practiced that if you are going to work out twice a day, wait at least 6 hours in between your body needs time to recover especially if you a re bulking otherwise you will be doing more harm then good.

8 hours!

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-02-2005, 01:20 PM

cardio increases cortisol levels which will hinder muscle growth!

**Luminaire** · 05-02-2005, 02:23 PM

lol i heard the number was 7 hours... in any case def dont do any cardio on an empty stomach if your bulking, for lean mass still do cardio but not on an empty stomach, and if u asked me if your BULKING, keep cardio to a minimum

**getbig888** · 05-02-2005, 03:20 PM

i can get away with cardio on empty while bulking.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-02-2005, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by getbig888

i can get away with cardio on empty while bulking.

doing that makes no sense when bulking!

**getbig888** · 05-02-2005, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD

doing that makes no sense when bulking!

y not if you stay in your target heart rate you are not burning muscle. I only cardio 3 times a week while bulking so i try to make the most out of my cardio session.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-02-2005, 05:24 PM

yes but it is actually alot harder than you think not to burn muscle when doing cardio when bulking, you will use a little do to increases cortisol levels and other negative factors related to cardio! what i think woudl be your best bet is to jump on a lean bulk diet! take your body weight and multiply it by 13.25 and that is your satrting caloric intake for the day! if you start putting fat on than decrease your calories by 250, if you're not progressing than up it by 250! but if you're going to do cardio for cardio vasular perposes than just do it on like off days or with something in your stomach!this is the approach i would take and what im actually doing right now and it's working great, im still cut to shyt and slowly adding lean muscle!

**needmorestrength** · 05-02-2005, 06:41 PM

I have read that you should have at least 3 solid meals in your body before training!

**novastepp** · 05-02-2005, 07:01 PM

thanks, it sounds like i get enough of my cardio from work then. appreciate it - God Bless

**TNbb06** · 05-02-2005, 07:09 PM

hey guys..im taking NO-Xplode pre-workout, on an empty stomach for an hour, then cell mass also reccomends an empty stomach post...im trying to create an effective bulking diet but its hard to work around the nox and cellmass...any suggestions? By the way, I have to work out in the morning, only chance I get.

**getbig888** · 05-02-2005, 09:01 PM

hollywood you make some good points, but i am on the lean mass diet and only doing cardio on off days.

tnbb06 i am currently taking no xplod and cellmass, I take the cellmass right when i get through with my last rep and then a shake on the way home( about 5-10 minutes later) The shake is more important than the cell mass so don't worry about waiting i am seeing good results this way. As for noxplod, you should be able to take this 30-45 minutes after preworkout meal and be ok.

just remember supplements are just that, supplements! Worry more about your diet and don't change it b/c of the supps

**bluethunder** · 05-03-2005, 09:55 AM

WTF, 6, 7, 8 hours or whatever too me that's nonsense each to his own. And by the way Hollywood can you ease up on the exclamation points!

**SwoleCat** · 05-03-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD

doing that makes no sense when bulking!

Please explain why this makes no sense.

Love to hear it.

~SC~

**taiboxa** · 05-03-2005, 09:59 AM

this thread should be renamed "Telephone"

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-03-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Please explain why this makes no sense.

Love to hear it.

~SC~

you wake up in a catabolic state, then doing cadio on an empty stomach keeps you in that state even longer...

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-03-2005, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by bluethunder

WTF, 6, 7, 8 hours or whatever too me that's nonsense each to his own. And by the way Hollywood can you ease up on the exclamation points!

ya sorry man force of habbit, i just find it easier to hit that button than the period i

guess!

**SwoleCat** · 05-03-2005, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD

you wake up in a catabolic state, then doing cadio on an empty stomach keeps you in that state even longer...

Unfortunately I don't have time to divulge why this is not cut/dry, but there is a whole lot more to it than that.

~SC~

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-03-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Unfortunately I don't have time to divulge why this is not cut/dry, but there is a whole lot more to it than that.

~SC~

so you're saying that you dont wake up in a catabolic state? well can someone clear it up for me becuase this is the impression that i was under and have read also, so if im wrong i would like to know the right answer.

**taiboxa** · 05-03-2005, 12:48 PM

your not Catabolic for say but depleted for a better word... your not relying on muscle for fuel YET... your relying on Reserves... thus that is where heart rate regulation comes into play.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-03-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

your not Catabolic for say but depleted for a better word... your not relying on muscle for fuel YET... your relying on Reserves... thus that is where heart rate regulation comes into play.

ok thank you, i was misreading my info!