upright rows or laterals

[HOLLYWOOD]

which would give better results for shoulder width, wider grip upright rows or laterals?

[BlueAndromeda73]

I have had better success with heavy laterals, but it depends on the way your body responds. Also building a wider back widens your shoulders.

[chicamahomico]

Personally unless you've been doing them for a long time and feel they really work for you and gibve you no trouble, I would skip the upright rows on the grounds that general consensus among kinesiologists and physiotherapists is that they are not good for the shoulder joint.

[mass junkie]

Why not do both?

Try incorporating em some way, if not in the same workout, do uprights one week and laterals the following week.

[*Narkissos*]

Why not do both?

Agreed...taking Chica's point about joint health into consideration also.

[HOLLYWOOD]

well what im thinking about doing is splitting up my shoulder day to prevent my shoulders from overtraining so how does this sound, db press and side laterals on chest day, then bent over laterals and upright rows on back day? i figure since the traps are getting hit with upright rows and since i do shrugs and deads on back day why not throw in upright rows to hit that area and also assist in building the medial delt? what do you guys think?

[colossus1]

which would give better results for shoulder width, wider grip upright rows or laterals?

Nobody has pointed out that these exercises hit two different heads of the delt almost exclusively considering they are isolation movements. Upright rows targets the front delt and laterals hits the side delt.

Isolation movements arent the first choice. You should be doing barbell pushpresses....and such for shoulder mass along with laterals.

[HOLLYWOOD]

ill be doing upright rows with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip so yes it will be targeting the medial delt!

[colossus1]

ill be doing upright rows with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip so yes it will be targeting the medial delt!

grip doesnt really matter.

Upright rows=front delt...........simple as that.


I dont know what a medial delt is.......i assume you are talking about side deltoids.

[HOLLYWOOD]

grip doesnt really matter.

Upright rows=front delt...........simple as that.


I dont know what a medial delt is.......i assume you are talking about side deltoids.

yup thats what medial delt means, and yes they work the medial delt if done with a slightly wider or as wide shoulder width grip.

[colossus1]

yup thats what medial delt means, and yes they work the medial delt if done with a slightly wider or as wide shoulder width grip.

Okay bro, you are right. Use upright rows to get massive side delts. Im sure you'll get there in no time..........lol

[*Narkissos*]

Nobody has pointed out that these exercises hit two different heads of the delt almost exclusively considering they are isolation movements. Upright rows targets the front delt and laterals hits the side delt.

Not true... Both hit the Lateral delts...

And neither are pure isolation movements.

Lateral raises activate the medial delt and anterior trapezius

Upright rows activate the Lateral and Anterior Delts and trapezius primarily..and the rear delts in the supporting-muscle capacity

Grip does matter. A wider grip negates trapezius engagement...while a narrow grip reduces (but doesn't eliminate) deltoid involvement.

[HOLLYWOOD]

first i asked which you think would produce more gains in the medial potion of the delt! this is not the staple exercise in my shoulder routine!

[colossus1]

believe what you will..........

upright rows=front delt.

[colossus1]

first i asked which you think would produce more gains in the medial potion of the delt! this is not the staple exercise in my shoulder routine!

Lateral raises ofcourse. The sole purpose of this exercise is for the side delt...............

[Jantzen4k]

both!

[HOLLYWOOD]

i dont know about you but when i do uprights the only 2 places i feel muscle working is in the medial delt and upper traps when using a wider grip!

[colossus1]

best of luck bro.....i wish you the best........

[ReX357]

I don't feel upright rows workout my front delts - rather my side delts. Look at the movement you do in the mirror and look at your shoulders and your upper arm - they move the same way as db laterals. The grip is only in front.

I prefer upright rows myself.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I don't feel upright rows workout my front delts - rather my side delts. Look at the movement you do in the mirror and look at your shoulders and your upper arm - they move the same way as db laterals. The grip is only in front.

I prefer upright rows myself.

thank you!

[colossus1]

lol.......okay, you guys are right. I wish you the best.

[ReX357]

I wish you the best too

[AandF6969]

Squats only work the anterior deltoid also

[ReX357]

Squats only work the anterior deltoid also

lol

[Aboot]

I don't feel upright rows workout my front delts - rather my side delts. Look at the movement you do in the mirror and look at your shoulders and your upper arm - they move the same way as db laterals. The grip is only in front.

I prefer upright rows myself.

[*Narkissos*]

Not true... Both hit the Lateral delts...

And neither are pure isolation movements.

Lateral raises activate the medial delt and anterior trapezius

Upright rows activate the Lateral and Anterior Delts and trapezius primarily..and the rear delts in the supporting-muscle capacity

Grip does matter. A wider grip negates trapezius engagement...while a narrow grip reduces (but doesn't eliminate) deltoid involvement.

Ditto

[taiboxa]

pssshhh.. Deadlift ..