Bicesp Peak Is Not Genetic...

**guzenfeld** · 05-18-2005, 10:36 AM

i thought a biceps peak was genetic until i read alrry scott's article. he transformed his biceps form long and thick to round,full and supper peaked, check out this article...

look at his biceps transformation-be4- http://www.1ringoffire.com/newslette...5-masspast.jpg

after- http://www.1ringoffire.com/newslette...6-masspast.jpg
scroll down on this page- http://www.1ringoffire.com/masspast.html

in the eb4 picture they were long,thick, and football shaped. in the after pic they were round,and super peaked

**El Jugo Buen0** · 05-18-2005, 11:15 AM

That's bull because the shape of your muscle IS genetic, if everyone could get the same shape there would be no competitions. If everyone can develop the same shape then why are some people predisposed to have more square pecs, look at Franco Columbo and his seperation in his upper pecs, not everyone has or can get that.

**IronReload04** · 05-18-2005, 11:17 AM

it also looks like he put on a good 20-30 pounds to me

**diesel21** · 05-18-2005, 04:38 PM

looks like major injections to me!!!!! those bi's are very peaked, haven't seen to many natural ones like that, but if we're talking juice, anything is possible, unless u have really crappy genetics

**Haxsore** · 05-18-2005, 06:16 PM

ya well either way they look good and i like some of those workouts i might have to try them in my next bi workout.

**dr.shred** · 05-18-2005, 06:53 PM

def doing spot injections. Juice is the only thing that takes genetics out of the equation.

-SHRED

**slopland** · 05-18-2005, 11:06 PM

even with AS, genetics are still in the equation. Nothing short of complete DNA makeover which to my knowledge is not plausable, will eliminate genetics from the equation.

**dr.shred** · 05-19-2005, 09:23 AM

true, but without them most people will not be able to transform themselves.

**alphaman** · 05-19-2005, 09:33 AM

Read the topic of the thread and reflect on the statement. That is absolutely ridiculous, genetics are the biggest factor relating to any variable of muscularity.

**dr.shred** · 05-19-2005, 09:42 AM

I did read the topic bro.

**Sta11ion** · 05-19-2005, 09:46 AM

I thought it was because of the spider bench, I am building one right now.

**dr.shred** · 05-19-2005, 09:47 AM

I agree it is dif genetics, however you take someone (like that guy in the article) with already good genetics and apply aas he will be able to grow in a new way. That guy already had a good build, but he took it to the next level with I think spot injecting his bi's. I know a kid that did this and it made a huge difference in his bi's. I could be wrong though.

-SHRED

**diesel21** · 05-19-2005, 10:06 AM

genetics do play a major role, but juice helps, and growth hormonme changes ur DNA, almost positive on that!

**dr.shred** · 05-19-2005, 10:07 AM

i agree.

**J.S.N.** · 05-20-2005, 12:47 AM

A) he had a good peak to begin with

B) he put on like 20 lbs min. of muscle

C) he was more shredded in the 2nd pic.

D) he was flexing differently

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 05-20-2005, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by diesel21

genetics do play a major role, but juice helps, and growth hormonme changes ur DNA, almost positive on that!

changes your DNA??? no

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-20-2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by dr.shred

def doing spot injections. Juice is the only thing that takes genetics out of the equation.

-SHRED

this has no effect, you liver must process juice first before it is "activated" and then lets loose into the blood stream, the only reason y people think this helps is becauae the muscle will usually get swolen.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-20-2005, 10:54 AM

20-30lbs more on your frame and prioritizing your arms will do that.

**Jantzen4k** · 05-20-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by dr.shred

def doing spot injections. Juice is the only thing that takes genetics out of the equation.

-SHRED

i was gonna say that or greg valentino style with synthol!!!!

**alphaman** · 05-20-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by dr.shred

I did read the topic bro.

That wasn't directed at you! It was directed at the thread starter!

To make the statement "Bicep peak is not genetic"
Huh?

**Puffader** · 05-21-2005, 07:20 PM

I have a great peak and when I did spot injections with juice I lost my peak. I'm not sure how pgf2 works, but igf in the bicep has increased my peak some. In one pic on his website his bi's do look a little weird. Who knows!

**dr.shred** · 05-21-2005, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jantzen4k

i was gonna say that or greg valentino style with synthol!!!!

ya I could be wrong I was just under the impression that spot injections did that. I don't know because I've never tried.

-SHRED

**dr.shred** · 05-21-2005, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by alphaman

That wasn't directed at you! It was directed at the thread starter!

To make the statement "Bicep peak is not genetic"
Huh?

Its cool bro, my bad.

**nsa** · 05-21-2005, 09:33 PM

Obviously someone has no clue about genetics, physiology or anatomy...

**ReX357** · 05-21-2005, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by guzenfeld

i thought a biceps peak was genetic until i read alrry scott's article. he transformed his biceps form long and thick to round,full and supper peaked, check out this article...

look at his biceps transformation-be4- http://www.1ringoffire.com/newslette...5-masspast.jpg

after- http://www.1ringoffire.com/newslette...6-masspast.jpg
scroll down on this page- http://www.1ringoffire.com/masspast.html

in the eb4 picture they were long,thick, and football shaped. in the after pic they were round,and super peaked

Look carefully at the first pic. He is not flexing as much as on the second pic, the angle is slightly different (making the first shot look less peaky) but you can still see that he has a peak there already. He just got his bicep bigger.

Also, the more I look at it, the more I think this is a synthol case.

**anabolicwannabe** · 05-22-2005, 05:56 AM

lol yeah.. in this case biceps peak may not be genetic..
its synthol-ic. based on how much synthol you use..

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-22-2005, 10:36 AM

spot injections do not work, your liver has to process the compounds first. injection sites are just a spot to administer. thats it, the only reason why people may think this is becuase the temporary swelling form the injection.

**nsa** · 05-22-2005, 11:08 AM

Spot injects do work temporarily when injecting water based compounds.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-22-2005, 12:35 PM

my bodies dad is a doc. and has a very different point of veiw on that. it just doesnt make sense. everything must be processed

**Kärnfysikern** · 05-22-2005, 01:00 PM

spotinjektions work the same way synthol works. It stretches the muscle facia leaving room for more growth. I have seen this happen with me since I usualy inject my right thigh alot more then my left, my right thigh is ALOT better then my left. Im not talking a small difference. My entire sweap is alot better on the right.

It doesnt give the dramatic effects that synthol gives only because synthol is made to stay in the injection site alot longer and synthol is used in much higher ammounts.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-22-2005, 01:04 PM

well if you are always shooting if your right more than anywhere else then think about that, swelling and/or scar tissue build up. this doesnt not work in relation to causing hypertrophy in that specific muscle you shoot in.

**Kärnfysikern** · 05-22-2005, 01:10 PM

The injection stretches the fascia. Do some reading on how synthol works. It gives permanent muscle gains! If used correctly.

Also explain to me how swelling can stay even 1 month after the last injections or how scar tissue can cause several centimeters of messurement difference along with more strenght in that leg.

**Kärnfysikern** · 05-22-2005, 01:13 PM

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...read.php?t=205

**nsa** · 05-22-2005, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD

my bodies dad is a doc. and has a very different point of veiw on that. it just doesnt make sense. everything must be processed

Thats good that your buddies dad is a physician. I'm sure you can learn some things from him. But I'm a pre-med student enterring medical school after next year, so i think i know at least a little about what im talking about. Water injections stretch the fascicles that make up your muscles. Much like synthol they swell up your muscles until the substance is broken down and then processed and excreted.

**HOLLYWOOD** · 05-22-2005, 04:05 PM

allowing the muscle more room to grow in the facia may work to some extent, but what im talking about is the actually compounds in the inject. site causing hypertrophy. i know what you're talking about but this is temporary, ive experienced this, and used to think that this would work but after about 3 months off injecting in a specific muscle it will diminsh. i tried this myseft to see if it was true with an 10months cycle rotating different groups

**nsa** · 05-22-2005, 04:33 PM

Obviously once its broken down the size will go away. But for a photo shoot like the one in the original post, it would work. I personally would never do it. To me it's not good muscle unless you can flex it and move some heavy stuff by contracting it.