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    Considered Strong?

    I am just wondering when many of you would consider someone strong in the following lifts:

    Clean
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    Squats
    Bench

    Now, I don't mean elite level strong, but above average strong. I know the answer will probably be different for each lift, and you can list your answer in terms of bodyweight. For instance, in weightlifting a double bodyweight clean is considered extremely good. So what would be similar comparisons for the others?

    Here are my thoughts, to get it started:

    Clean - 1.5 x bodyweight
    Snatch - 1.25 x bodyweight
    Deads - 3 x bodyweight
    Squats - 2.5 x bodyweight
    Bench - 1.75 x bodyweight

    Anyone else?

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    For above average-
    clean-1.25
    snatch-1
    deads-2
    squat-2
    bench-1.5

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    Excuse my ignorance but what's a "Snatch"?

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    snatch is slang for slit

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    Strong Bench- 400-450

    Really Strong- 450-510

    Super Strong- 510-600

    Superhuman Strong- 600-700

    (all shirtless and without back more than an inch or two off bench)

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    Squat- anything in the 450-600 range for reps depending on how often you work legs

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    Deadlifts- anything in the 550-650 range is excellent

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    oh...i mean these are ideal lifts for Bodybuilders,not fitness buffs or other athlethes
    for a baseball or football player weighing 220, a 350 bench is excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReX357
    Excuse my ignorance but what's a "Snatch"?
    Snatch is slang for vagina.





    J/k heres a link with some snatch.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...hp?Name=Snatch

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    I don't think you can just say a weight is a strong lift. If lifter A weighs 150 and lifter B weighs 350, then a 400lb bench is a huge difference in strength between the two. That is why I asked in relation to bodyweight since I think this is a better measure of how strong you are.

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    i'm speaking in generalities to a group of primarily bodybuilders/powerlifters, sorry- 2 x bodyweight is always an awesome achievement for anyone in the bench, and 2.5 x bodyweight in the squat

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    My personal goals do not include 1 rep maxes right now...i just want a 365 x4 bench and 19.25" biceps @ 206 pound body w/ a 32"waist

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    you, personally at a lean 175 should be able to bench 325-360 squat 400+ and deadlift 400+

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    if you have a large build, that is

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    Dude, I can't respond to your posts, can't you keep them all in the same one? LOL. Anyways, what the heck do you mean by a large build? 175 is 175, isn't it?

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    Maybe i am a realist but at any weight being able to lift over 2 times your bodyweight is quite the achievement. at 175 squating 400+ is well in excess of 2.25 of that body weight and a 360 bench is over 2 times that body weight. So yeah i would have to say thats quite strong! Anyway i always thought a good measure of being strong is being able to rep a certain weight. Maybe like 1.25-1.75 of bodyweight for 6-8 reps depending on the lift.

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    have you seen a short guy who weighs 175 next to a tall guy? you can see that the shorter guy appears to be much wider and more muscular if he is lean

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    For above average-
    clean-1.25
    snatch-1
    deads-2
    squat-2
    bench-1.5
    i think this sounds about right

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    i see plenty of skiny little pricks benching close to 300 pounds... 1.5 x bodyweight ain't shit for a true weightlifter!!!

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    other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decadbal
    other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..
    Well, that would be like me saying size doesn't matter. Athletes, powerlifters, weightlifters, etc. probably all think strength matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprinterOne
    Well, that would be like me saying size doesn't matter. Athletes, powerlifters, weightlifters, etc. probably all think strength matters.
    about as much as who can hold their breath the longest..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decadbal
    other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..
    +1

    All that ever does is get you hurt. I work out with the max I can, all the time, but pushing the envelope just does bad things.

    I can tell you that I cant Clean - 1.5x,Snatch - 1.25x, Deadlift - 2x Squats - 2.5x or Bench - 1.75 x my 291 lbs (as of this morning). Im a big boy, but it looks like i got alot of practice to do if im gonna be strong..

    ----->me <------strong people


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    Quote Originally Posted by Decadbal
    about as much as who can hold their breath the longest..lol
    Uhm, so are you saying these athletes don't care about strength?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprinterOne
    Uhm, so are you saying these athletes don't care about strength?
    no they do

    thats all i train for..strength and a low bf% along with sprinting and swimming and NO not in 65-75% MHR

    Not everyone wants to be 220lbs with 7% bf...well not me @least

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