back workout critique

hey guys,

was wondering if you could help me out and critique my back workout. im not sure if im overtraining, it doesnt feel like am but just wondering if anyone can give me suggestions on how to improve my back. no matter what i do i cannot get the lats out like wings, maybe its bodyfat making my waist look bigger and hiding the lats or its just my genetics.

please critique for me
thanks

Lat Pulldowns 10repsx60kg, 10 repsx65kg, 10 repsx70kg, failurex80kg
Very wide grip lat pulldown: 10repsx65kg, 10repsx70kg, 10 reps 75kg
Pullups (i cant do a single pullup, so i do negatives): 10 reps


Bent over barbell rows: 10repsx70kg, 10 repsx80kg(x2), failurex85kg
Deadlifts: 10repsx90kg, 10repsx100kg, 8 repsx110kg, failurex130kgs
Seated Rows: 10x60kg, 10x70kg, 10x75kgs, 8x80kgs


do you think i am doing too much or should i split it into 2 seperate days or anything? my back is what i want to build up most, i think a developed back looks awesome!

thansk for the help guys i rly appreciate it

The big four,
Deadlift
bent rows
t-bar rows
pulldown movement/chins

I'd skip the seated rows(not for building do t-bars), "extra-wide" pulldowns, If you can't do chins... don't do them... use the pulldown/assist machine
Back once a week is fine IMO

Personally, I do pull-ups first while I'm fresh, and Do deadlifts last because after deads, I'm drained, and it feels like I'm gonna vomit and pass out at the same time.

I do a ton of deadlifts, usually between 6-8 working sets, with 2 warm-up sets beforehand.

Bent rows are a must.

1 arm DB rows...

we got a wicked new Morning raise (not sure what the excercise or machine is really called), that allows you to set a weight with it. Hard as hell and kills the back.

You really are the final word in your workout, are you dead when itsover, can your back take anymore? Sometimes its as good to ask your body for advice as it is to ask others ;)

I train back and legs hard as possibly can. You cant build a decent house without a strong foundation :)

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Originally Posted by SHAOKAHN

The big four,
Deadlift
bent rows
t-bar rows
pulldown movement/chins

I'd skip the seated rows(not for building do t-bars), "extra-wide" pulldowns, If you can't do chins... don't do them... use the pulldown/assist machine
Back once a week is fine IMO

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i agree..

S.P.G and I are on the same page... However you might want to take the advice of others in regards of deadlifting last or first in your workout... For me my lower back (among other things) gets too pre-exausted from all the rowing to work it last, also I've always, aside from warm-up exercises... practiced doing the larger compund movements/muscle groups first in a given workout. Ultimately you'll have to find whats better for you.