Shoulder Press substitute?

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09-28-2005, 11:32 AM
Baller9

Shoulder Press substitute?

Anybody have a good substitute for 'Behind the neck Shoulder Press' to still focus on shoulders?

I can't do any pushes behind my neck anymore do to a bum shoulder.
09-28-2005, 02:54 PM
jwet

Try standing barbell military presse...

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...taryPress.html
09-28-2005, 03:14 PM
Baller9

Sorry, should have clarified...I can't do any overhead presses at all. Just looking for an exercise (s) that might be able to get similar results w/o the strain
09-28-2005, 03:24 PM
chest6

You probably have that bum shoulder due to behind the neck shoulder presses
09-28-2005, 03:43 PM
Xtralarg

can you not do some front,side and rear raises?
09-28-2005, 06:25 PM
decadbal

can u not do them infront of your neck
09-28-2005, 11:27 PM
Papi93

Sometimes dropping the angle of an adjustable works well for shoulder presses. The angle is between vertical and the 45 degree angle, commonly used, for incline pressing.

If this is out, stick with wide-grip upright rows for the medial delts. Side laterals, usually will not allow you to pack on the same amount of muscle mass as wide-grip upright rows.

Your chest work should cover the anterior deltoids.
09-30-2005, 01:27 AM
redmeat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadbal

can u not do them infront of your neck

that's what I'm thinking
09-30-2005, 01:39 AM
Xtralarg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baller9

Sorry, should have clarified...I can't do any overhead presses at all. Just looking for an exercise (s) that might be able to get similar results w/o the strain

obviously not
10-04-2005, 12:22 PM
Baller9

Awesome...thanks for the input...I think I'll go with the wide grip upright rows for a while, since I'm already doing frnt,sd and B.O. raises
10-04-2005, 02:11 PM
Hackamaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest6

You probably have that bum shoulder due to behind the neck shoulder presses

incline shoulder presses is how I think i got my slight tear in my rotator cuff.
10-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Smak

Arnold Presses!
10-04-2005, 07:27 PM
Hackamaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smak

Arnold Presses!

It was a machine if you were talking to me smak.
10-04-2005, 07:36 PM
Smak

I was recommending it to Baller9. I always start my workout off with "Arnold Presses". It's a great exercise for anyone who has hurt their shoulder that hits your anterior and side delts.
10-04-2005, 07:37 PM
Smak

Here's a cool article in Flex Magazine about exercises you should avoid. It lists behind the neck barbell presses in it.

http://www.flexonline.com/train/6?page=1
10-04-2005, 08:39 PM
Hackamaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smak

I was recommending it to Baller9. I always start my workout off with "Arnold Presses". It's a great exercise for anyone who has hurt their shoulder that hits your anterior and side delts.

so having a slight tear in my rotator cuff you think it would be good for it.
10-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Baller9

Smak awesome link to Flex...you're big time.
10-12-2005, 04:18 PM
nalbano34

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest6

You probably have that bum shoulder due to behind the neck shoulder presses

Hear it is about the worst thing to incorperate in shoulder routines.....very unnatural movement!!!!
10-12-2005, 04:28 PM
TADOLFI

Smak - Thanks for the link - I haven't done skullcrushers or deads in the last two years - don't miss them a bit.
10-14-2005, 12:48 AM
Baller9

what's the difference between french curls and skullcrushers?