pro shake before cardio in the morning??

**Safety31** · 10-22-2005, 02:34 AM

i hear you should drink a protein shake as soon as you wake up in the morning..but also ive been doing the whole cardio on an empty stomach thing.wouldnt this mean im not on an empty stomach if i drank the shake before i ran

**MuckDog** · 10-22-2005, 04:07 AM

empty stomach - then right after u work out

**lucabratzi** · 10-22-2005, 01:02 PM

exactly, empty stomach means completly empty..i'll usually drink some water with glutamine, and another glass of water so im good and hydrated, but thats it...

**collar** · 10-22-2005, 07:08 PM

if you want to do cardio on empty stomach
yes it means empty stomach no protein shake

**biggnik56** · 10-24-2005, 07:23 AM

agreed empty tummy then 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop casein and 5 gr glutemine

**decadbal** · 10-24-2005, 11:20 AM

its this easy.. no cardio.. protein soon as u wake up.. when u do cardio, protein and EFAs bout 30min post cardio

**chest6** · 10-24-2005, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by decadbal

its this easy.. no cardio.. protein soon as u wake up.. when u do cardio, protein and EFAs bout 30min post cardio

been workin really damn well. Cept mines a pro/fat. No carbs after cardio deca ??

**decadbal** · 10-24-2005, 09:28 PM

i dont think so, you dont want your insulin to spike at that time, so you can keep your metabolism at a faster pace and keep the fatburning going as long as poss

***Giantz11*** · 10-25-2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

been workin really damn well. Cept mines a pro/fat. No carbs after cardio deca??

Don't relaly matter at the end of the day, lypolysis from AM cardio lasts about 5min after your done.

**chest6** · 10-25-2005, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Don't relaly matter at the end of the day, lypolysis from AM cardio lasts about 5min after your done.

ah i thought he was talkin in the AM

***Giantz11*** · 10-25-2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

ah i thought he was talkin in the AM

LOL, That was just a saying, at the end of the day. Really it doesn't matter what you eat after cardio, a pro/fat meal will cause a rise in insulin as well, so it makes no real difference.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 10-25-2005, 04:17 PM

wow i guess ive been misinformed for A LONG TIME because i thought only carbs could spike insulin .

***Giantz11*** · 10-25-2005, 04:21 PM

Nope, just about anything you eat will cause a release of insulin . Pure fat would be the only thing that wouldn't.

**chest6** · 10-25-2005, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

LOL, That was just a saying, at the end of the day. Really it doesn't matter what you eat after cardio, a pro/fat meal will cause a rise in insulin as well, so it makes no real difference.

wow i totally interpreted that wrong i look like an idiot

now that i read that i dont know how i wrote that...o well

**decadbal** · 10-25-2005, 08:18 PM

where did you read that lypolosis stops after 5min after cardio, im interested, bc i havent ever read anything like that, just about 30min after..

**KrooC** · 10-25-2005, 08:30 PM

SCREW A BUNCHA PROTIEN!!!!!!

hahah just playin

**Myka** · 10-25-2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by KrooC

SCREW A BUNCHA PROTIEN!!!!!!

hahah just playin

I dont get it. You spelled protein wrong.

**Panzerfaust** · 10-25-2005, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by lucabratzi

exactly, empty stomach means completly empty..i'll usually drink some water with glutamine, and another glass of water so im good and hydrated, but thats it...

This is what i prefer as well. 5g of Glutamine in a glass of water and i am good to go. I have never heard or read anything that stated lipolysis stops 5 minutes after cardio? Would be interested in reading it though, i prefer a pro/fat meal 45m-1hr after cardio as i find this has worked the best for me.

When i bulk this winter i will most likely have a pro/carb.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 10-25-2005, 11:14 PM

well ive heard that lypolysis stops as soon as your body temperature drops back to normal.

**KrooC** · 10-26-2005, 12:01 AM

lol i though it didnt look right... i stay away from anything with protein in it tho it causes gyno.... but seriously to the question id just fill up on some poweraid and then eat and drink a proshake afterwards if at all with cardio... im no expert tho

***Giantz11*** · 10-26-2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by decadbal

where did you read that lypolosis stops after 5min after cardio, im interested, bc i havent ever read anything like that, just about 30min after..

Well if Lypolysis does continue it doesn't matter, your metabolsim is raised only so slightly from low intensity cardio, the EPOC is aprox. 5 min. So after cardio I'd say that you oxidize fat for about 5 min after cardio. Even if lypolysis continues, you will not oxidizing the fats, the will just be re-estrefied back into triglycerides.