Thread: Walking better than running?
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10-24-2005, 01:29 PM #1Associate Member
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Walking better than running?
I am starting to cut. I am 20, 5'8, 215lb, 20%bf. Should I wake up and run for 30min at 5mph or would I see better results if I walked for 45 min at 3.5-4mph on an incline and then ran at 5mph for 10-15min immediately after? Goal is obviously maximum fat loss. Thanks
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10-24-2005, 01:31 PM #2AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
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Originally Posted by Romeoguy62Last edited by Dave321; 10-25-2005 at 07:22 AM.
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10-24-2005, 01:41 PM #3
one.. you wont burn much if any fat in a 15min session of cardio imo. 2 running is horrible on your knees, which u wanna save for squats and so on.. and 3 walkin is proven to burn more fat, and cause less stress on the lower body joints.. id go with walkin brother
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10-24-2005, 01:59 PM #4
I just do that eliptical thing low intensity for 40-45 mins in the AM on an empty stomach. I've always had great results with that.
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10-24-2005, 02:04 PM #5Originally Posted by Justin Sane
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How do I figure out what my max heartrate is? If someone knows what calculations need to be done my stats are in the first post. Thanks!
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10-24-2005, 03:18 PM #7Originally Posted by Romeoguy62
A common calculation used to determine max heart rate is 220-Age
I am 25 so my max heart rate would be 195 (beats per minute)
50% = 195 x .5 = 97
60% = 195 x .6 = 117
70% = 195 x .7 = 136
80% = 195 x .8 = 156
etc.
I have read and try to stick to the following:
The portion of calories that you burn during excersize which come from fat differs with the intensity of your training (in our case cardio).
Warm-Up:
*Heart rate is 50-60% of your max.
*85% of calories burned come from fat.
Fitness Zone:
*Heart rate is 60-70% of max.
*85% of calories burned come from fat.
*Ideal for fat loss.
Aerobic Zone:
*Heart rate is 70-80% of max.
*50% of calories burned come from fat.
*Increases endurance, size and strength of your heart and improves cardio-respitory systems.
*Ideal for endurance training.
An-aerobic Zone:
*Heart rate is 80-90% of max.
*15% of calories burned are from fat.
*Increases VO2 max, improving cardio
*Increases lactate tolerance
*Increases enduance and ability to fight fatigue
*Ideal for Performance training.
Red Line:
*Heart rate is 90+% of max
*Considered to be your maximum effort.
*Not sure what this is good for.
When I was competeing in sports I would train in the anaerobic and aerobic zones for endurance but when training for my body to cut fat and get lean, I tend to stay more in the fitness zone but I often find myself bored. Also, look in the gym at the professional bodybuilders....I have never seen a professional body builder run on the treadmill....always walking briskly.
Any thoughts from some of the guys on the board that compete in bodybuilding??
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10-24-2005, 05:27 PM #8Associate Member
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Wow Lonelifter thanks, that's exactly the info that I wanted.
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10-24-2005, 05:31 PM #9Associate Member
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well I got a HR watch and I keep myself 85% for 45 mins in the morning. I'm trying to bulk my heart up and increase v02 max, but I'd also like to burn some fat. Would walking 60-70% of Hr in the afternoon for a few hours be good for that?
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10-24-2005, 05:35 PM #10Associate Member
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Also I do 9-10 hours of cardio on Sundays (mountaineering) yesterday my watch said I burned 4067 calories in my session, do you think I'm going to lose a ton of muscle if I keep this up? the first 4-5 hours were 80-85% max and the next 5-6 hours were 50-60%MHR.
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10-24-2005, 05:50 PM #11Originally Posted by Romeoguy62
Not a problem Romeo...i am here to share what I know as well as to learn from the experience of others. Work hard and good luck in acheiving your goals.
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10-24-2005, 05:54 PM #12Originally Posted by Girlyman
I have read that HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) sessions are a good way to maintain cardio-vascular strength and burn fat at the same time. The basic strategy of a HIIT session consists of varying the intensity of your cardio. I don't recall what intervals are recommended but I'm sure they'll turn up if you do a search in the forum or online for the info. Now that I think of it, I first learned of this technique of training from EAS. Check out their website and search in their trianing section for it. (www.eas.com).
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10-24-2005, 06:03 PM #13Originally Posted by Girlyman
Wow, thats what I call a workout. Chances are you may be losing muscle mass with a session like that, depending upon your diet. I hope you are drinking tons of water. I have read in various forums and magazines that your body goes into a catabolic state after over an hour of cardio but have not read any scientific studies to back this.
Side note:
Ever watched a marathon race? Those runners have all kinds of endurance and are lean as hell but...have you ever seen a marathon runner that was muscular and ripped beyond belief? I haven't and I tend to think that because of the sport they compete in and the amount of cardio they do, their body is feeding off of their muscle mass for energy. I would guess this is why distance runners "carb load" the night before I huge race...so they have tons of carbohydrates to burn instead of muscle. Bottom-line: Know what you are trying to acheive with your training. If you want to be muscular and lean, and your diet and training is right....IMHO, I do not think one day a week of "marathonish" (yes, I made that up) cardio is going to send your body into such a catabolic state that you will be unable to recover from.
Any thoughts for the more experienced? I would be especially interested to hear what some of the vets have to say as well as those who compete.Last edited by LoneLifter; 10-24-2005 at 06:06 PM.
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10-24-2005, 06:39 PM #14Associate Member
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Well I want to keep an athletic figure, I am 165ish right now (havnt weighed in a month) and %bf? but I'd like to be 175-180 8-10%. I just want to be very musclar and strong but low weight and agile.
p.s thanks for the help, I go through about 80 ozs of water on these trips and I usually eat every 2 hours or so, about 1/2 cup granola, 1/2 almonds, 1/2 raisins, 1/4 cup sunflower seeds. I can't eat heavy when I'm doing these trips or I tend to get very nasueated and my performance hits the floor
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10-25-2005, 07:22 AM #15AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
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edit.. .mean't to say walking
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