fell at bottom of deep squat today

**RageControl** · 11-27-2003, 11:08 PM

well today i was squating and doing my usuall depth (legs parallel to ground). Well first let me mention im just fully recovered from a lower back muscle injury and finally starting to get back up in weight. Well anyways im under 315pnds going lil deeper then normal and felt real good so i decide to got up to 345 pounds. I felt really good on first 3 reps but on the forth soon as i broke 90 degrees my legs gave and i had to drop the bar. i walked away fine but **** that never happend before. What should i do i felt super strong and all of a sudden nothing. I wanna go back and try again next week but im nervous. any advice bros?

**BDTR** · 11-27-2003, 11:21 PM

Squat in a power rack so the bar catches if it falls. I remember free squatting outside a rack with 600lbs and on the 2nd rep my legs gave way when i went a little below parrelel. I jacked up my back big time.

**bigol'legs** · 11-27-2003, 11:48 PM

ya get back on the horse.. I ALWAYS use a powercage.. even when warming up.

**BASK8KACE** · 11-27-2003, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by bdtr

Squat in a power rack so the bar catches if it falls. I remember free squatting outside a rack with 600lbs and on the 2nd rep my legs gave way when i went a little below parrelel. I jacked up my back big time.

There's a cool machine that I've seen popping up at a few gyms. Its a squat rack with a bar suspended in the middle from cords. When you put your hands on the sensors and push up, it releases the bar. The second you let go of the bar, it stops in mid air. The the friction is not noticible--it's smooth (not like the friction you feel with a Smith machine--no twisting the bar to lock/unlock and no restriction to movement). It's a great machine for just about any exercise. You can throw a bench in there for various bench and pressing motions, you can definitely do curls, rows, good mornings, deadlift variations AND (of course) squats.

The great thing, is if you fail during a rep, you can let go of the bar, or just raise your fingers off the bar and it stops--no embarassing clanging or broken mirrors.

Maybe you can get your gym to get one. If I ever get a home gym, that is absolutely the FIRST piece of equipment I'll buy. The second will be a variable, portable bench.

The only other things I can suggest is to increase your weight in smaller increments, and to use the squat cage with safety bars set as close to the bottom of your parallel squat as possible. That's obviously elementary. Anyway, as long as you are increasing the weight you're going to grow.

I know I'm very careful when increasing weight on squats because its one of the exercises which people increase too quickly when using AS and end up doing irreparable damage--once your knees are gone, THEY ARE GONE. Since your back has already been injured, you might want to take it real easy on your knees.

**bigol'legs** · 11-27-2003, 11:57 PM

bask8kace.. put up a link to that machine or give the name up... I wanna see that!!! sounds sweet!

**BASK8KACE** · 11-28-2003, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by bigol'legs

bask8kace.. put up a link to that machine or give the name up... I wanna see that!!! sounds sweet!

I'm shocked that more gyms don't have it. It is an amazing, versatile piece of equipment--could do full workouts on it. It works with the traditional gym barbell plates.

I don't remember the name of it. I'll try to find it. If I cant find it tonight, then tomorrow afternoon I'll call one of the gyms that I know has it and I'll post it here.

**bigol'legs** · 11-28-2003, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by BASK8KACE

I'm shocked that more gyms don't have it. It is an amazing, versatile piece of equipment--could do full workouts on it. It works with the traditional gym barbell plates.

I don't remember the name of it. I'll try to find it. If I cant find it tonight, then tomorrow afternoon I'll call one of the gyms that I know has it and I'll post it here.

sweet... but remember im in MT.. so IM still squats cows and ****...

**BASK8KACE** · 11-28-2003, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by bigol'legs

sweet... but remember im in MT.. so IM still squats cows and ****...

LOL I'm sure they can make an attachement for livestock, bro.

Anyway, once I find the machine, you'll be squattin' cows in no time.

**BDTR** · 11-28-2003, 01:08 AM

If you find it... post it cus i want one at any cost when i start to put together my new home gym when i buy this house ive been looking at.

**scottninpo** · 11-28-2003, 09:17 AM

using a crate or a bench if you're tall enough under you while you squat will give you a reference point to know when you've hit parallel, also, it you want to strengthen your squat in the bottom position, set up the rack so you can start from the bottom, then practice doing pause reps, start light so you get used to it, then you can work your way up to your top weight, works great and builds your confidence in the lift

**BASK8KACE** · 11-28-2003, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by bigol'legs

bask8kace.. put up a link to that machine or give the name up... I wanna see that!!! sounds sweet!

The name of the company is ProSpot Fitness. The peice of equipment is the PC3000 (from the commercial line). They have home and commercial lines.

The PC3000 runs $2,995. I think that's a great price for a piece of equipment that can be used for just about every exercise you need to do to grow. You definitely can do all the core exercises with it.

The pics on the site make the machine look small, it's a bit longer and wider than a true power rack--so you have LOTS of room to move the bar.
Here's the link:
http://www.prospotfitness.com/pages/pc3000.html

Here are two pics of it below (click on pics for larger version):

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 11-28-2003, 03:23 PM

that thing is BAD ASS!! i might have to get one, one day

-MS

**Gearhead007** · 11-29-2003, 09:46 AM

I guess I can't use it for "heavy" squat day... The cables are only rated to 2000 lbs.

That thing rocks. A must have for the home gym when I have the cash.

**angelripper** · 11-02-2005, 12:54 AM

maybe if you change foot position you wont lose balance at bottom

**juicy_brucy** · 11-02-2005, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by RageControl

well today i was squating and doing my usuall depth (legs parallel to ground). Well first let me mention im just fully recovered from a lower back muscle injury and finally starting to get back up in weight. Well anyways im under 315pnds going lil deeper then normal and felt real good so i decide to got up to 345 pounds. I felt really good on first 3 reps but on the forth soon as i broke 90 degrees my legs gave and i had to drop the bar. i walked away fine but **** that never happend before. What should i do i felt super strong and all of a sudden nothing. I wanna go back and try again next week but im nervous. any advice bros?

I give you respect for squating deep...
No one does that anymore.

**chest6** · 11-02-2005, 01:47 AM

ar..why are we bumping 2 year old threads?

**znak** · 11-02-2005, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

ar..why are we bumping 2 year old threads?

Or giving BDTR, bigol'legs and BASK8KACE advice on where to place their feet during squat.

**Mealticket** · 11-02-2005, 09:12 AM

his this is the thread speaking......Let me die and go back to the archives where i've layed for 2 YEARS!!!!

**znak** · 11-02-2005, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

his this is the thread speaking......Let me die and go back to the archives where i've layed for 2 YEARS!!!!

Check out the dude that woke you up! Kind of wonder why someone would think that is a atavar for a BB forum.

He must be a real babe-magnet.

***Narkissos*** · 11-02-2005, 06:12 PM

AR's been doing it all week...bumping old threads

**SMYL_GR8** · 11-02-2005, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by znak

Check out the dude that woke you up! Kind of wonder why someone would think that is a atavar for a BB forum.

He must be a real babe-magnet.

He's the same douchebag that started a thread just to say "If you do curls in a squat rack, you're a pussy!" Ah, I love not being a moron!

**Myka** · 11-02-2005, 06:27 PM

Hey AR I do curls bench press shoulder press shrugs deadlifts in the squat rack and if you or someone that goes to my gym doesnt like it you can suck my dick while I bitch slap your stupid ass around.