should i do dead lifts?

[jurewix]

Should i do dead lifts in my back workout, i already have 12 total sets with 4 exercises, should i get rid of one and add the dead lifts there
right now i have :
3 sets t-bar rows
3 sets lat pull down
3 sets one arm dumbell rows
3 sets chin ups

i want to change it to

3 sets t-bar rows
3 sets lat pull down
3 sets dead lifts
3 sets chin ups

another thing, i like to switch my back workout up, so what would be another exercise to take place of the dead lifts, for example for rows i do the t-bar rows, then i change up to barbell rows,
let me know what u think

[painintheazz]

Try adding them in and see how you feel, if you feel like crap or overtraining then give them a separate time. I do mine before one of my light cardio sessions.

Pain

[jurewix]

should i keep my back work out and just put the deads in my leg work out or should i do it in my back workout , the thing is i do my leg workout the day after my back so i dont want to train my back to much ... so what should i do

[painintheazz]

Try both and see which way feels better. All-in-all it will be a personal thing bro, no one but you can tell you what your body will like better.

Pain

[jurewix]

is 15 total sets to much ? , cuz i wana do all 5 exercises , but i dont want to over train....

[BIG TEXAN]

jurewix- tyr doing all 5 exercises, you'll be able to tell if you're overtraining. Just give it a try and see how it goes.

[majorpecs]

DEADLIFTS are the gateway to being JACKED! I say do them!!

[jurewix]

will i be able to tell the difference between over training and a good workout?

[painintheazz]

Originally posted by jurewix
will i be able to tell the difference between over training and a good workout?

Not right away but in a period of time you will notice you are getting weaker or feeling shitty. That is how I can tell. Then amazingly you start to do less and you grow more and get stronger, overtraining is a very strang thing.

Pain

[BIG TEXAN]

Here's an ex. of one of my back routines, now jurewix, I'm not saying this will work for you, it's just an ex.

Warm-up: 3 sets of 15 pull-ups
deadlifts: 2 warm-up sets, 4 working sets 8,8,6,4
cable rows: 4 working sets of 8-10 reps
lawnmower's: 4 working sets of 8-10
lat pulls: 4 working sets of 8-10

I rotate the deads with some iso-row machines my gym has every other week. Yes in a couple of weeks you will notice if you're oertraining or not. Just listen to your body.

[chinups]

What are lawnmowers b/c I am def adding those fucker to my workout just b/c they sound awesome.

Majorpecs said all I can say!

[BIG TEXAN]

Lawnmowers- use dumbells, rest one hand and one knee on a bench, lean over and pull the dumbell up to yuor side, just like starting a lawnmower. If that still has you confused I'll try to explain more.

[majorpecs]

Originally posted by BIG TEXAN
Lawnmowers- use dumbells, rest one hand and one knee on a bench, lean over and pull the dumbell up to yuor side, just like starting a lawnmower. If that still has you confused I'll try to explain more.

I'm going to have to try this one..sounds awesome!!

[BIG TEXAN]

Another name for lawnmowers I gues are dumbell rows???

[chinups]

oh shit, yea I do them. Great name.

Hey Tex have you ever heard about a workout called farmers workout? I saw this kid in the gym doing some crazy things. One of the exercises he was him doing was a shrug walking like 50 feet with Db's in hand. It looks good for a mi up.

[BIG TEXAN]

Do what???? Doing a shrug while walking? Can't say I ever heard of this.

[jurewix]

thanks guys , i was at the gym and did my back workout yesterdy , i did 3 sets of deads , 3 rows , 3 lat pulldowns and 3 of chin ups, i had no energy for the db rows, but i have another? what can i use to switch up my dead lifts with , like i do the tbar rows one week and the other i will use barbell to do rows, is there anything i can use to switch my deads with out having my deads goin down...

[painintheazz]

Originally posted by BIG TEXAN
Do what???? Doing a shrug while walking? Can't say I ever heard of this.

LOL, what is the walking doing. If you are doing traps then concentrate on them, if you are doing legs concentrate on them. Don't try to combine workouts.

Pain

[BIG TEXAN]

Hey Pain, you ever hear of what chins is talking about? What the hells a farmers lift? Tossing a bail of hay.LOL

[BIG TEXAN]

I switch deads every other week with the iso-row machines at my gym. The weight I use on my deadlifts haven't suffered either.

[majorpecs]

OH..i guess i'd call those 1 arm dumbbell rows then.. I misread your post and thought you said you did them sitting down. I've done that walkin shrug workout before, but that's more of a powerlifting type workout as regular shrugs are just as effective for hitting the traps..the walking shrug works grip and forearms also.

[DeFiNeDMasS]

Originally posted by painintheazz


LOL, what is the walking doing. If you are doing traps then concentrate on them, if you are doing legs concentrate on them. Don't try to combine workouts.

Pain

actually check out the august 2002 issue of muscle & fitness it includes the "farmers walk" as a trap exercise. but u have to use really heavy weight ur not shrugging as your walking ur walking with the weight you walk 100-200 feet fast like under 20 secs. if you think about it if you've ever carried heavy luggage for a while when ur walking, ur traps are what burn.

[BIG TEXAN]

DeFiNeDMasS, Thanks for clearing that up....might have to try those.