Technical training preferred

[DocTrainer]

Hi everybody!
What is your method training preferred?

[Ashop]

I switch things up often and don't stick to one routine or system for too long.
I think there are MANY,,NUMEROUS,,ways to train effectively.

[bigjohnny1]

5x5 training man!

[600@50]

Heavy weight and low reps.

[45lb]

I switch it up from Time Under Tension to Heavy, and everything in between!

[bartman314]

HIT - check out marcus diary and be converted.

[Euroholic]

I like hivt. (High intensity volume training)
So its kind of in the middle.

[marcus300]

There's only one kind of training what put slabs of thick dense muscle on my frame. It's not easy and extremely hard to implement properly but for me it's my own form of pure HIT. It's not for everyone and I'm a firm believer in finding what works for you.

[Xv1d]

I tried HIT for two weeks being a natural builder. Hitt the wall pretty fast with energy and motivation falling lower and lower for each training day.

[Mr.BB]

I tried HIT for two weeks being a natural builder. Hitt the wall pretty fast with energy and motivation falling lower and lower for each training day.

You were probably trying to train everyday, 5-6 days per week. IMO you cant do that, body needs rest.

I see guys in my gym going everyday, but they barely break a sweat, dont even lose their breath... while they are chatting and gigling, sweat runs down my face while I'm leaning on a machine trying to get catch my breath from a working set.

[Xv1d]

You were probably trying to train everyday, 5-6 days per week. IMO you cant do that, body needs rest.

I see guys in my gym going everyday, but they barely break a sweat, dont even lose their breath... while they are chatting and gigling, sweat runs down my face while I'm leaning on a machine trying to get catch my breath from a working set.

I tok another trip to the HIT Dungeon to read some more and came to a similar conclusion. I was hitting every bodypart twice a week, just dident work.
I'm thinking I should switch to each muscle once a week 4 day strength split with light cardio on 2 separate days, what do you think?

[Mr.BB]

Sounds good to me, but you need to find what works for you, and then switch it around to confuse a bit your body.
My favorite would be to do one bodypart per day, this would mean that to finish the whole body I would take more than a week, not saying its what produces more growth to me but that would be the most convenient hehe. But due to work and life, I hardly ever do it, atm my split is legs-shoulder-arms-chest&back, might do 1-2 light cardios on rest days. But switch it around alot, I always try to do legs on satudays, as doing legs on work days is a big no-no for me, sunday my gym is closed. Rest of days I can go chest-back-shoulder-arms, or chest&tri-back&bic-shoulders&cardio... I dont know, like I said you need to find what works for you, but one thing you should have clear, you grow when you rest and eat, not in the gym, if you need a rest day take it, the weights will still be there the next day.

For more info on HIT go to Marcus thread in the lounge.

[Xv1d]

Sounds good to me, but you need to find what works for you, and then switch it around to confuse a bit your body.
My favorite would be to do one bodypart per day, this would mean that to finish the whole body I would take more than a week, not saying its what produces more growth to me but that would be the most convenient hehe. But due to work and life, I hardly ever do it, atm my split is legs-shoulder-arms-chest&back, might do 1-2 light cardios on rest days. But switch it around alot, I always try to do legs on satudays, as doing legs on work days is a big no-no for me, sunday my gym is closed. Rest of days I can go chest-back-shoulder-arms, or chest&tri-back&bic-shoulders&cardio... I dont know, like I said you need to find what works for you, but one thing you should have clear, you grow when you rest and eat, not in the gym, if you need a rest day take it, the weights will still be there the next day.

For more info on HIT go to Marcus thread in the lounge.

Thanks for the tips and sharing your routine Mr.BB. I have gathered some intel and come up with this:

Monday
Dumbbell Shoulder Press
Side Lateral Raise
Low-Pulley Delt Raise
Reverse Dumbbell Flyes
Lying Tricep Extensions
Tricep Pushdown

Wednesday
Squats
SLDL
Seated Calf Raise
Leg Press
+1 More exercise, suggestions? I'm thinking bent over barbell rows
+1 More exercise, suggestions? I'm thinking face pulls

Thursday
Decline Bench Press
Incline Dumbbell Press
Machine Flyes
EZ Bar Curl
Cablerack Curl
Concentration curl

Saturday
Deadlift
Dumbbell Pullover
Close Grip Pulldown
One-Arm Row
Wide Grip Seated Row
+1 More exercise, suggestions?

I realize my Wednesday leg day is on the light side, but my legs are the most prominent features of my physique, figured I would emphasize my weaknesses instead of my strength's.

Tell me what you think, It should be closer to what you're doing than what I used to be doing, perhaps I can avoid some potential pitfalls with some of your advice.

Cheers!

[Mr.BB]

Dont understand the bb bent over row on leg day... On my leg days after squat I cant really do much more :/

Why dont you swap deadlift with the bent over row? Deadlift is a great back of leg exercise if do it properly.

[NACH3]

Dont understand the bb bent over row on leg day... On my leg days after squat I cant really do much more :/

Why dont you swap deadlift with the bent over row? Deadlift is a great back of leg exercise if do it properly.

Agreed!

And if you rather do deads w/back(which I like to do) then just add in BB bent over rows too! One of if not the best mass builder(and thickness) for your lats(and T-bar Rows)... You could finish with deadlifts on back day, too... Whereas you won't need the same weight for the same results(as you'd be pre-exhausting your back to finish with them then rotate starting with em and finishing w/them...

Also, as BB stated deads are great for your whole posterior chain - u can also substitute sumo deads on leg day so your getting both in?! Just a few suggestions... Best!

[DROY]

On leg day after squats I usually do Romanian deads. I step up on something to give me a little more ROM (usually a couple of thick 45lb plates, about 3 inches) and do romanians concentrating on hams and glutes. My legs are pretty much toast afterwards. I do regular deads on back day with more weight.

[Xv1d]

Dont understand the bb bent over row on leg day... On my leg days after squat I cant really do much more :/

Why dont you swap deadlift with the bent over row? Deadlift is a great back of leg exercise if do it properly.

I'm not going to be rowing the bar with my legs so I figured it would be fine to incorporate some back exercises making it a Legs+Back day I guess.

Deadlifting and Squat'ing on the same day is pretty much my weight lifting nightmare, can it even be done? I always sit down in my deadlift using 50/50 legs/back.
I will return to the drawing board!

[Mr.BB]

I'm not going to be rowing the bar with my legs so I figured it would be fine to incorporate some back exercises making it a Legs+Back day I guess.

Deadlifting and Squat'ing on the same day is pretty much my weight lifting nightmare, can it even be done? I always sit down in my deadlift using 50/50 legs/back.
I will return to the drawing board!

Benting over with 2-3 plates put a lot of stress on your legs and lower back, legs and back day its completely overboard. Legs and back are the most taxing workouts on your CNS, the most demanding ones, if its not the case for you probably doing something wrong :/

I actually only do deadlifts on legs days, stiff legs deadlifts on a stand, touching the my feet with the barbell, real deep, not too much weight, 3 plates for the working set. I have short legs, long arms and torso, and strong lower back, so even sumo deadlifts does little to my back all the stress goes mainly for my hamstrings which are completely sored the next day from just normal deadlifts.

[Xv1d]

Benting over with 2-3 plates put a lot of stress on your legs and lower back, legs and back day its completely overboard. Legs and back are the most taxing workouts on your CNS, the most demanding ones, if its not the case for you probably doing something wrong :/

I actually only do deadlifts on legs days, stiff legs deadlifts on a stand, touching the my feet with the barbell, real deep, not too much weight, 3 plates for the working set. I have short legs, long arms and torso, and strong lower back, so even sumo deadlifts does little to my back all the stress goes mainly for my hamstrings which are completely sored the next day from just normal deadlifts.

Thats some sound reasoning. I havent tried it yet but what you're saying makes a lot of sense, with the taxing of CNS. I'll rethink it, perhaps follow Nach's advice on just adding it to the dedicated back day. Thanks for the reply Mr. BB, Nach & Droy.

[kelkel]

To the point, if you have enough energy for back work after legs, you're not training them hard enough.

[crazy_rocks]

Concurrent periodization training