Results 1 to 17 of 17
Like Tree11Likes

Thread: Did shoulders and chest on the same day, not good?

  1. #1
    gangen is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    55

    Did shoulders and chest on the same day, not good?

    So i have a day for
    Back
    Biceps/Triceps
    Legs
    Shoulders
    Chest

    Im doing legs every third day no matter what cause i've had some problem with the growing and seen good results from doing them so oftent so im gonna keep doing it. SO i though i'd do chest and shoulders on the same day, to make them grow bigger cause then i can train them more ofent. But i did today and i feel completely exhausted. Im just asking, is this a good or bad thing to do them on the same day or should i do them on separate days?

  2. #2
    MuscleScience's Avatar
    MuscleScience is online now AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    ShredVille
    Posts
    11,355
    Blog Entries
    6
    I have always trained shoulders with chest for the opposite reason. Because I have had so much trouble with my shoulders from baseball. When you do any type of pressing exercise the shoulders are activated anyway. My thought is by doing shoulders on chest day, they get a solid week of rest since I have no shoulder specific day. I will do rear delt exercise with my back day.
    “If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein

    "Juice slow, train smart, it's a long journey."
    BG

    "In a world full of pussies, being a redneck is not a bad thing."
    OB

    No Source Check Please, I don't know of any.


    Depressed? Healthy Way Out!

    Tips For Young Lifters


    MuscleScience Training Log

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    21,806
    I agree with MS I been training shoulders on chest day too. That way after chest all I have to do is finish the shoulders off as they are already pretty worked over

  4. #4
    MuscleScience's Avatar
    MuscleScience is online now AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    ShredVille
    Posts
    11,355
    Blog Entries
    6
    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    I agree with MS I been training shoulders on chest day too. That way after chest all I have to do is finish the shoulders off as they are already pretty worked over
    Hopefully Nach doesn't see this, he will bitch at us. He hates shoulders and chest together.
    “If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein

    "Juice slow, train smart, it's a long journey."
    BG

    "In a world full of pussies, being a redneck is not a bad thing."
    OB

    No Source Check Please, I don't know of any.


    Depressed? Healthy Way Out!

    Tips For Young Lifters


    MuscleScience Training Log

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    21,806
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Hopefully Nach doesn't see this, he will bitch at us. He hates shoulders and chest together.
    Well we all have to figure what works for each of us. I'm sure there are workout I like and others hate vice versa

  6. #6
    Marcus G's Avatar
    Marcus G is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    1,048
    I hate chest and shoulders in the same workout I usually train shoulders beginning of the week chest at the end but if it works for you, great

  7. #7
    YoungRoidBoy is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    17
    Maybe combine your back and chest as well as you bi/tri and shoulders. This way you have a bi week split.

    Chest/back
    Shoulder/bi/tri
    Legs/core

    this also gives you a rest day and the ability to tear muscle fibers twice a week while still having time to repair in between.

  8. #8
    CALLMEOCT's Avatar
    CALLMEOCT is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Zyzz for Life
    Posts
    138
    In my case i dont seem to be able to train shoulders after chest; the main reason is my chest being exhausted after the w/o and my shoulders feel tired and with way less power and strength than what i have when i start with shoulders on a fresh day.

    Thats the reason why i always choose to do Biceps (or triceps) on chest day.

  9. #9
    kelkel's Avatar
    kelkel is offline HRT Specialist ~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ No Source Checks
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    East Coast Dungeon
    Posts
    25,214
    I do back and shoulders same day. Works great for me.
    -*- NO SOURCE CHECKS -*-

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Out State
    Posts
    674
    I really like the Dorian split of shoulders and triceps. That being said chest and shoulders are great too. Like Bio said your shoulders are already getting worked by doing chest, may as well finish them off. I just like to do the both separate personally. It just helps me focus better and push more weight. Most importantly of all, experiment and see what works best for your body.

    Sent from my SM-S902L using Tapatalk

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Out State
    Posts
    674
    weight is irrelevant. As long as you are lifting as much as you can with proper form you will grow. Don't focus so much on the weight but focus on the form and constant tension you are putting on your muscles.

    Sent from my SM-S902L using Tapatalk

  12. #12
    BrockBadger is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    141
    Quote Originally Posted by gangen View Post
    So i have a day for
    Back
    Biceps/Triceps
    Legs
    Shoulders
    Chest

    Im doing legs every third day no matter what cause i've had some problem with the growing and seen good results from doing them so oftent so im gonna keep doing it. SO i though i'd do chest and shoulders on the same day, to make them grow bigger cause then i can train them more ofent. But i did today and i feel completely exhausted. Im just asking, is this a good or bad thing to do them on the same day or should i do them on separate days?
    It doesn't matter. Do shoulders and chest for awhile then switch it to a different split.

  13. #13
    KINGKONG's Avatar
    KINGKONG is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Outside the Walls
    Posts
    3,653
    Like bio said diff things work for diff ppl and like MS said doing them on the same day is a good way to give them more rest..I can't do them on the same day I recently tried and by the time I got to shoulders I was completely worn out..I do really hard short workouts and expend all my energy very quickly and not energy as in glycogen, because I have plenty of fuel in the tank by the time I get to the gym..maybe more like CNS wear,I dunno..I do a lot of drop sets ,super sets and take very little time in between sets..maybe I need to take a few monthes and just work on musclular endurance but I don't feel like I got a good workout in my body and mind unless I go to complete failure..

  14. #14
    PT1982's Avatar
    PT1982 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Home of the Braves
    Posts
    1,476
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I do back and shoulders same day. Works great for me.
    Could you post your 3 day weekly workout Kel? You posted it a couple of months ago in a thread and I can't find which one it was. It's one of the only things I never got a chance to write down. I had been doing 3 days a week for a long time, but I wanted to try yours out because there were slight differences. I'm going to need all the help I can get when I get back in the gym!

  15. #15
    The Deadlifting Dog's Avatar
    The Deadlifting Dog is online now Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    2,347
    I do full body EOD, but what do I know...
    I'm a powerlifter.

  16. #16
    MToption2's Avatar
    MToption2 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    261
    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    I do full body EOD, but what do I know...
    I'm a powerlifter.
    Are we the only two to hit the same muscle group twice a week?

    To OP, it shouldn't matter. It's usually normal to be exhausted/extra sore when starting a new workout routine. Your body should adapt fairly soon. If not, keep tweaking.
    Last edited by MToption2; 08-18-2017 at 04:49 PM.

  17. #17
    prenes is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Dallas TX area
    Posts
    60
    as you can see. personal preference. Do what works best for you, no 1 optimum strategy.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •