Which is more effective. Pulldowns to the front or back of the head
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Which is more effective. Pulldowns to the front or back of the head
Front.
Any exercise behind the neck is very dangerous.
agreed
I've heard this before, but why is this? I normally switch up my pulldowns from front to back each back day, but I always do military presses behind the head. I don't get the same feeling in the shoulders if I do them in front.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdtr
-moto
it puts the shoulder joint in a very vulnerable position, on the bottom, putting lots of stress in very bad places, sparing the technicle jargon:p
front is the best way to go..
Agreed............ I never do millitarys or pull downs behind the neckQuote:
Originally Posted by bdtr
Adding to the aforementioned reasons.....you will have a much greater range of motion if you do them in front.
Because the shoulder joints allow a lot of movement - and some directions can cause severe injury when placeing heavy loads on them. Working in your verticle plane (behind the neck) will eventually injure you... such as pain in the shoulders outside the gym from simply elevating your arm...Quote:
Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
Ouch Ouch Ouch
Just the thought of doing pull downs or military press beind the neck makes me cringe. Just asking for shoulder problems. I know way to many dudes including myself who have hurt themselves doing these. If you must do them make sure you are completly warmed up and do very light sets.
Front is the best way.. doing them behind is bad for the neck.
The neck suffers, as well as the rotator cuff. It's just not a natural movement to control heavy weight behind the neck. The spine must fall out of alignment, and the shoulder joint is placed under too much stress at it's front-most contact. A lot of the old-time bodybuilders trained with movements that were performed behind the neck, but it is very risky.
I switched from doing military press's behind my neck (because of the shoulder pain) to a power clean and press
I have never had a problem doing them behind my neck...
I do feel I get a better lat workout if I pull to my chest,
when I can't do any more that way I will finish out the set to the back.....it works for me.....
I read a recent article in MD by Johnnie Jackson and states that doing wide grip pulldowns front pull downs aren't in his back routine. Rather, he uses a shoulder width grip to improve his range of motion and hit his lats more effective. Food for thought, but it makes **** sense.
interesting. Doing back today I'll tryQuote:
Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL
Lots of good correct info there .......i'm impressed because i still see lots of people push and pull behind the neck in the gym and it is absolutely asking for trouble. Impingement of the shoulder to be exact. I always favor dumbells when working shoulders as it allows you to move thru the natural plane of movement for the shoulder which is thru the center of your head. I also agree with a less wide grip for lat work.....going wide just reduces your range of motion ....shoulder width is more appropriate in my book. keep up the good work with the info guys.
Oh God...flashback of shoulder dislocations :cry:. ..Stay in front of the head man. But some people say you should pull in front of the head then behind...i'm fine with staying in front :).
Be cool
i never do pulldowns or military press behind neck.....
at my last gym you werent allowed to...the owner would tell you to stop doing them....it puts too much stress on your rotaters...
also with wide grip as RoNNy THe BuLL was saying i think its cos the wider you go the more rear delt come into play....i dont go much past shoulder width when doing pulldowns personally....
[i used to do pulldowns behind my head, it felt like that worked best for me, but after reading this, i think i am goign to stick with infront of the head pulldowns....
Behind the back='s injury