Blood work 25-2-2017

I came off my last cycle October 2016

I was on gear for 6 Month's

250mg/week test e
4iu/day genotropin hgh
( i did a PCT: hcg 5000x3, nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 75/50/50/50 )

Now after few month's off i feel like shit i did a blood work and i found out i have a high estrogen

Testosterone-Total 6.14 ng/ml (2.8 - 8)
Estradiol E2 542.2 pmol/l (28-156)

Now i'm thinking to do another PCT what you think?

Hcg 5000iu x 3
Arimidex 1mg/day
Clomid 50/50/50/50

My info's:
Age 29
Weight: 106 kg
Height: 176cm

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What i do feel now is very bad

Always tired, No motivation, Bloated-Specially Nose, Gaining fat, Mood swing is bad as hell, Always on bad mood like i dont want to talk, Depressed.

After the cycle i gained about 10 kgs of fat, now im taking hgh 4iu/day just trying to lose some fat before, i start any other cycle.

Any help ?

Well, you have an hormonal imbalance. Dont take another PCT, specially with those HCG dosages.

Just take 0,5mg adex EOD for 2 weeks, and retest in 1 month. Dont forget to test SHBG, DHT, Prolactin, free testosterone , total testosterone, LH and FSH.

You need to address the fat, seems you tried to use AAS to lower bodyfat, you should have used diet and cardio.

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

I came off my last cycle October 2016

I was on gear for 6 Month's

250mg/week test e
4iu/day genotropin hgh
( i did a PCT: hcg 5000x3, nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 75/50/50/50 )

Now after few month's off i feel like shit i did a blood work and i found out i have a high estrogen

Testosterone-Total 6.14 ng/ml (2.8 - 8)
Estradiol E2 542.2 pmol/l (28-156)

Now i'm thinking to do another PCT what you think?

Hcg 5000iu x 3
Arimidex 1mg/day
Clomid 50/50/50/50

My info's:
Age 29
Weight: 106 kg
Height: 176cm

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What i do feel now is very bad

Always tired, No motivation, Bloated-Specially Nose, Gaining fat, Mood swing is bad as hell, Always on bad mood like i dont want to talk, Depressed.

After the cycle i gained about 10 kgs of fat, now im taking hgh 4iu/day just trying to lose some fat before, i start any other cycle.

Any help ?

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Curious, what was your Pre cycle weight, and body fat estimate?

What was your weight and BF estimate after your last pin?

And are those your stats as of right now, with the 10kg of extra fat?

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Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Well, you have an hormonal imbalance. Dont take another PCT, specially with those HCG dosages.

Just take 0,5mg adex EOD for 2 weeks, and retest in 1 month. Dont forget to test SHBG, DHT, Prolactin, free testosterone , total testosterone, LH and FSH.

You need to address the fat, seems you tried to use AAS to lower bodyfat, you should have used diet and cardio.

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I got the PCT in hands already but I will follow your advice and stick with arimidex only.

But... when i do inject i feel way more better immediatley, why is that? Dosen't it help upping my test level? Should i do hcg with another dosage? 2500/week?

This is not my first cycle, I have done about 3 cycles before, but everytime i do a cycle it was only for 3 month's.

The last one was 6 month's, I lowered my test-e dosage to only 250mg/week and used hgh 4iu/day...

My cycle's history:-

#1 - duration 12 weeks
Testosterone enanthate 500mg/week
EQ 500mg/week

#2 - duration 12 weeks
Testosterone enanthate 750/week
EQ 600mg/week

#3 - duration 3 weeks (I didnt continue this cycle it was very strong i couldnt handle the sides)
Cypionate, Winstrol, Tren-Ace, Masteron, Prop...
PCT was done perfectly and I have recovered good

My blood work test before I used any cycle was:
Testosterone 13 ng/ml
Estrogen 127 pmol/l

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Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Curious, what was your Pre cycle weight, and body fat estimate?

What was your weight and BF estimate after your last pin?

And are those your stats as of right now, with the 10kg of extra fat?

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I didnt measure my bodyfat but i was at 103kg and went down to 92kg.

I have gained fat from not eating right and stop going to gym, this is very natural to anyone, but the tiredness and depression is what im suffering from. This must gone its effecting me in alot of bad ways.

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

I didnt measure my bodyfat but i was at 103kg and went down to 92kg.

I have gained fat from not eating right and stop going to gym, this is very natural to anyone, but the tiredness and depression is what im suffering from. This must gone its effecting me in alot of bad ways.

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Natural for anyone?

No,it is not.

Yoyve given up, that's what happened.

Its not natural for everyone to just give up and throw away years and years of hard work, in a matter of 6 months

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

I got the PCT in hands already but I will follow your advice and stick with arimidex only.

But... when i do inject i feel way more better immediatley, why is that? Dosen't it help upping my test level? Should i do hcg with another dosage? 2500/week? HCG will stimulate your testicles to produce testosterone, but will be suppressive to all the rest of your HPTA. If you suppress your pituitary and hypothalamus you will never fix your hormones. You should use low dosage HCG while on cycle to maintain some testicle activity.

This is not my first cycle, I have done about 3 cycles before, but everytime i do a cycle it was only for 3 month's.

The last one was 6 month's, I lowered my test-e dosage to only 250mg/week and used hgh 4iu/day...

My cycle's history:-

#1 - duration 12 weeks
Testosterone enanthate 500mg/week
EQ 500mg/week

#2 - duration 12 weeks
Testosterone enanthate 750/week
EQ 600mg/week

#3 - duration 3 weeks (I didnt continue this cycle it was very strong i couldnt handle the sides)
Cypionate, Winstrol, Tren-Ace, Masteron, Prop...
PCT was done perfectly and I have recovered good Ever done bloodwork between this cycles?

My blood work test before I used any cycle was:
Testosterone 13 ng/ml
Estrogen 127 pmol/l

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You understand you had a very high natural testosterone, and that probably you will never get it again? Hope you got some muscles in the process to pay for it...

106k at your height is big, care to share a pic?

I guess he saying it's natural for ones body to go down hill wth neglect..not sure why anyone would do this especially after risking health by cycling..I mean why build up to just let it break down ? I agree with the giving up ..you should not have given up