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Thread: 13 weeks into cycle

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    13 weeks into cycle

    13 weeks into cycle-4f34a794-7ee5-4e19-8a1a-713feadfd3a0.png

    So this is week 13-14 of my cycle. Started with 500mg test/week now 5 weeks into 200 test 400-500 EQ. Got bloodwork done. Didnít think to add lipid panel...

    A few things I was surprised about
    -Test is over 1500 from 200mg/week. Natural production was 400. I had stopped hcg for 2 weeks prior to this test since I ran out of insulin needles! Anyways doesnít that seem high?

    -E2 is only 11

    Thoughts on that?

    Any other thoughts?

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    No ai?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    No ai?
    No sir

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    That’s strange for sure do you have any off cycle reference point for your estrogen?

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    your not the only persons bloodwork I've seen running EQ and no AI and having low E
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That’s strange for sure do you have any off cycle reference point for your estrogen?
    I just checked my last blood work from my dr and it didn’t include estrogen. So no I don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    your not the only persons bloodwork I've seen running EQ and no AI and having low E

    It’s the enzymatic effect of EQ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That’s strange for sure do you have any off cycle reference point for your estrogen?

    It will be interesting to see what my post cycle blood work shows for E2

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    That’s too bad the other test didn’t show e2. I guess it must be the eq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That’s too bad the other test didn’t show e2. I guess it must be the eq.
    Guess that means GH knows what he’s talking about...again...

    Do you think my test seems high for only being on 200mg/week?

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    Thanks for the responses GH and Redz!

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    Nothing to worry about on the “high” hemoglobin or hemocrit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Nothing to worry about on the “high” hemoglobin or hemocrit?
    nothing to worry about . this is what is supposed to happen when taking legit gear.. this is not a negative side effect its a positive one. the whole idea that you need to go run out and donate blood and constantly worry about your hematocrit levels is greatly over exaggerated in the online AAS world.
    its not a problem. I don't generally advise donating while on cycle (you want more blood volume not less). its ONLY a problem if you have high rbc and hematocrit along with super high Platelet count (thats when risk of clotting happens).
    if your platelet count is good (which yours is) then enjoy the benefits of having high RBC while on cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Guess that means GH knows what he’s talking about...again...

    Do you think my test seems high for only being on 200mg/week?
    your UGL brand of test is likely quite over dosed, which is super common. no UGL wants to be caught under dosing something as basic as Test, so they over dose it just to be sure
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    This is pretty interesting after my 10 week test/Tren /deca /winstrol blast I’m going to 1g Test for 10 weeks I’m almost considering adding in eq for this e2 lowering effect. I didn’t notice much first eq cycle but I was using ai at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Do you think my test seems high for only being on 200mg/week?

    When was BW pulled relative to your injection?
    Also, the standard estradiol test is probably flawed. It's geared to women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    When was BW pulled relative to your injection?
    Also, the standard estradiol test is probably flawed. It's geared to women.
    I did my last injection 2 days prior. Test E

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    When was BW pulled relative to your injection?
    Also, the standard estradiol test is probably flawed. It's geared to women.
    Ya it wasn’t the sensitive estrogen test. How would it skew the results though? Is it just less accurate or does it sway it one way or the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Ya it wasn’t the sensitive estrogen test. How would it skew the results though? Is it just less accurate or does it sway it one way or the other?
    best way to explain it is to just compare a basic 200$ telescope you get to look at the stars (basic details), compared to an advanced telescope at nasa thats designed to look at details.
    a womens estrogen covers a very large range (big numbers easy to see) , a mans estrogen in comparison is much smaller range (small numbers hard to see).. so being men's numbers are so small in comparison we need a much more precise test to dial in the accuracy.

    having said that.. I've got regular E tests done and have been as low as 10 and as high as high as upper 200s. were those numbers totally accurate . no, but they gave me some sort of base line to go off of for a basic cycle..
    IF I was trying to dial in medically prescribed TRT I would definitely get the sensitive essay test. but just running a basic cycle it at least gives you some ball park numbers (small telescope numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    best way to explain it is to just compare a basic 200$ telescope you get to look at the stars (basic details), compared to an advanced telescope at nasa thats designed to look at details.
    a womens estrogen covers a very large range (big numbers easy to see) , a mans estrogen in comparison is much smaller range (small numbers hard to see).. so being men's numbers are so small in comparison we need a much more precise test to dial in the accuracy.

    having said that.. I've got regular E tests done and have been as low as 10 and as high as high as upper 200s. were those numbers totally accurate . no, but they gave me some sort of base line to go off of for a basic cycle..
    IF I was trying to dial in medically prescribed TRT I would definitely get the sensitive essay test. but just running a basic cycle it at least gives you some ball park numbers (small telescope numbers
    That’s what I figured. Thanks!

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