Ephedrine based Supplements

**Doc M** · 05-20-2004, 10:38 AM

Although I hate to not use AllSport Nutrition for my supplement needs, I am in search of any websites that sell Ephedrine based fat burners..I checked with Jason and he said they are all out of these items..Anyone have any sites that still cary these supps??

Doc M

**BOUNCER** · 05-20-2004, 10:47 AM

I use www.abf.ac for my e/c/a

**Doc M** · 05-20-2004, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

I use www.abf.ac for my e/c/a

Just the site out and when you click on the ECAstack, it pops open and says, sorry, we can't sell this item because of the ban of ephedrine..****!!

Doc

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 11:04 AM

Click me

**Psychotron** · 05-20-2004, 11:49 AM

Can 1fast400 even sell that? The ephedrine ban took place a while back.

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Psychotron

Can 1fast400 even sell that? The ephedrine ban took place a while back.

Ephedra was banned but not ephedrine, a synthetic analog that works as well or better.

**Doc M** · 05-20-2004, 11:53 AM

Wow.$7.00 dollars...Einstein..Have you ever purchased this product??

Doc

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 11:53 AM

silly wabits.. ephredra was banned not ephedrine.. they cant ban ephedrine it helps with SOB.. so they can make it a prescription drug but they cant banned it.. alos check out "bronkaid" at your local pharmacy 11$ for 60 tabs..

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

Ephedra was banned but not ephedrine, a synthetic analog that works as well or better.

**** you

@#!

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Doc M

Wow.$7.00 dollars...Einstein..Have you ever purchased this product??

Doc

That's the only ephedrine I use....it's **** cheap. I buy caffeine off of Ebay....there's always people selling tons of 200mg capsules for cheap....much cheaper than Vivarin.

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Elliot

**** you

@#!

Sounds like someone could use some ECA himself......a little slow on the draw

**Psychotron** · 05-20-2004, 12:04 PM

What's the difference between ephedra and ephedrine.

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Psychotron

What's the difference between ephedra and ephedrine.

Ephedra is an herbal extract. Ephedrine is synthetic/manmade and has a structure that mimics the region of ephedra that's responsible for its effects.....and it's actually more potent at carrying out its effects than ephedra.

**chicamahomico** · 05-20-2004, 01:34 PM

Doc, why not go for pseudoephedringHCL its dirt cheap, readily available and works awesome.

**Doc M** · 05-20-2004, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by chicamahomico

Doc, why not go for pseudoephedringHCL its dirt cheap, readily available and works awesome.

Actually I do use pseudo on a nightly basis..Terrible sinus problems, especially at night..Unfortunately it does nothing for me except open up my sinuses..Doc

**ColdSore** · 05-20-2004, 02:12 PM

you can get caffine off of allsports!!!...then i buy the asprin at a dollar store, or the super market

**Farmer** · 05-20-2004, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Doc M

Wow.$7.00 dollars...Einstein..Have you ever purchased this product??

Doc

Im not Einstein (well in the context here at least)

but I've got 12 bottles of 1fast400's stuff the VasoPro or whatever and I like it a lot.

Peace

Farmer

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

Ephedra is an herbal extract. Ephedrine is synthetic/manmade and has a structure that mimics the region of ephedra that's responsible for its effects.....and it's actually more potent at carrying out its effects than ephedra.

really? i thought ephedrine was teh extract from the ephedra herb..? but i guess i read wrong..

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 03:21 PM

A white, odorless, powdered or crystalline alkaloid, C10H15NO, isolated from shrubs of the genus Ephedra or made synthetically. It is used in the treatment of allergies and asthma.

we're both right

Does that make me an einstein also?

**daman1** · 05-20-2004, 03:48 PM

Dont purchase the Vaspro because it contains "guaifenesin," which inhibits the lipolytic effects of ephedrine.

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by daman1

Dont purchase the Vaspro because it contains "guaifenesin," which inhibits the lipolytic effects of ephedrine.

i never understood how..?

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by daman1

Dont purchase the Vaspro because it contains "guaifenesin," which inhibits the lipolytic effects of ephedrine.

When guaifenesin in doses used for anesthetic purposes this may be the case, but in the small doses that are in ephedrine:guaifenesin mixes, the doses of guaifenesin just serve as a mild expectorant. Also, salicylates, such as aspirin, are known to negate the effects of guaifenesin, so using vasopro in ECA stack shouldn't be of any concern

**rambo** · 05-20-2004, 04:16 PM

So essentially, Bronkaid, Aspirin, and No-Doz is going to be a perfectly viable stack.

**einstein1905** · 05-20-2004, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by rambo

So essentially, Bronkaid, Aspirin, and No-Doz is going to be a perfectly viable stack.

Yup, a truckdriver's wet dream

**daman1** · 05-20-2004, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

When guaifenesin in doses used for anesthetic purposes this may be the case, but in the small doses that are in ephedrine:guaifenesin mixes, the doses of guaifenesin just serve as a mild expectorant. Also, salicylates, such as aspirin, are known to negate the effects of guaifenesin, so using vasopro in ECA stack shouldn't be of any concern

Cool deal!

***BajanBastard*** · 05-20-2004, 06:58 PM

Ephedrine has killed thousands! Saddam used it in his WMD program! Why do you think it's banned! J/K Nor-Ephedrine and Ephedrine are both very good. I like the Nor-Ephedrine myself.

**Doc M** · 05-20-2004, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

When guaifenesin in doses used for anesthetic purposes this may be the case, but in the small doses that are in ephedrine:guaifenesin mixes, the doses of guaifenesin just serve as a mild expectorant. Also, salicylates, such as aspirin, are known to negate the effects of guaifenesin, so using vasopro in ECA stack shouldn't be of any concern

You're quick einstein..Now I know why I recruited you!!!..lol..You beat me to it this time..guaifenesin is in fact used as a mild expectorant..Shouldn't interfere with the purposes we want it for..

**Elliot** · 05-20-2004, 08:01 PM

nuthing beats a good morning hit from the pipe tho.. it has me jumping up and down from the last pull to the good night kiss my mommy gives me.. Cocaine.. its one hell of a drug..

**chicamahomico** · 05-21-2004, 12:00 AM

Thats how I got started using pseudo long ago and just sorta notices the hunger killing and wired feeling as a side. Do you find the effects diminshed from taking a daily dose? Not the sinus clearing but the wiredness and the hunger killing?

Originally Posted by Doc M

Actually I do use pseudo on a nightly basis..Terrible sinus problems, especially at night..Unfortunately it does nothing for me except open up my sinuses..Doc

**Doc M** · 05-21-2004, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by chicamahomico

Thats how I got started using pseudo long ago and just sorta notices the hunger killing and wired feeling as a side. Do you find the effects diminshed from taking a daily dose? Not the sinus clearing but the wiredness and the hunger killing?

Yes, the effects are definitely diminished for me in regards to wiredness and hunger killing..I don't get any of those effects, just opened sinuses..Doc

**Sara Dancer** · 06-06-2004, 11:35 PM

Where are you located? I'm in California and have several extra bottles (I bought the rest of the store's stock before they took it off the shelves). If you're nearby I could give you a bottle or two. That should hold you over until you find a site that sells it.