Question for Canadians

[Red Ketchup]

I should have known I would get this response from you.

Oh great, now I feel like Pointdexter with his pocket protector

Do you think I am even smart enough to ask a question that would even warrant an answer like this.

Why not? After all it's part of American history too

Red

[BigK29]

Didn't we(Canada) give you boys a lickin in 1812?Pretty sure you were on the **** end of the stick for that one.Either way don't think you would come to my door to give me any grief,that would be a mistake.Not all Canadians are push overs and polite.Not me! K

[BigK29]

Then we the English kicked the French out and down to Louisiana they whent.Did you as Americans know that? K Only 1 in 10 is French in this country!

[FCECC2]

Then we the English kicked the French out and down to Louisiana they whent.Did you as Americans know that? K Only 1 in 10 is French in this country!

r you talking about canada??? 22.7% of the population's official language is french

someone havnt done his job correctly i guess

[BigK29]

Not knockin Quebec or the French,but why do you always threaten to have a "Reforendum or what ever you call it.Canada is Canada why should you have a choice? K

[FCECC2]

Not knockin Quebec or the French,but why do you always threaten to have a "Reforendum or what ever you call it.Canada is Canada why should you have a choice? K

ohhhh ****,believe me im so fukin tired of hearing this referendum shiit, just hope it will die with time....

[BigK29]

[3Vandoo]

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE!!!!!!!!!

And its more than 22.8% of the population is french, they alway forget to count the 2 millions in Ont and the 1.5-2 million in the west and ...

And if 2 millions quebecers would have stayed in 19th century(they moved to the US)
we would be 50milions and 35 millions would be french HAHAHA, count your luck now! Imagine Celine Dion as governor general! eeeeeeeeeha!

Why should we have a choice, because we were forced to join the Dominion of Canada.


vive referendum!

But we will seperate! You guys will wait 2 years then you will join quebec, and wait 2-3 years and do a referendum to turn the name back to canada, so we will do another ref to quit and you will join us again , you see where im going with this! Big bull**** on both sides

im hungry

[Red Ketchup]

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE!!!!!!!!!

Vive ma quéquette libre!

Well thats what the french nudist said


Red

[Money Boss Hustla]

Only one province could survive separation...Alberta. The only province to be debt free!!!

[chicamahomico]

I wish more people in BC and Alberta wanted to separate from Canada. IMO PQ has the right idea, you guys are socialists and we are capitalists, we should part ways. I believe BC and Alberta would be a better place without having to bow to the ways of the east. We don't care about French, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, fisherman, poutine, or Paul Martin. A country built on favourtism benefits no one in the long run. The favoured get lazy and complacent, the unfavoured are forced to pay for other people's free ride.

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE!! I'll drink to that, so long as BC and Alberta get to split too and leave Ontario holding the bag. Now that would make me laugh.

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE!!!!!!!!!
.....Why should we have a choice, because we were forced to join the Dominion of Canada....vive referendum!....
But we will seperate! You guys will wait 2 years then you will join quebec, and wait 2-3 years and do a referendum to turn the name back to canada, so we will do another ref to quit and you will join us again , you see where im going with this! Big bull**** on both sides

im hungry

[LORDBLiTZ]

I hate the CRTC! And i really hate having both English and French on every **** label and instruction booklet!

[cascade]

I just say let em go. Hell, I took French all through the years of school and the funny thing is... it's France French, not Quebec Fench.
Im not too sure how they'll base their economic growth just as Quebec, not many resources there to depend on for exports, over a longer spand of time.
As for the History; the Voyaguers, the Hudson's Bay Company and all that fur trading got alittle old after the 5th year of learning it.

[3Vandoo]

I hate the CRTC! And i really hate having both English and French on every **** label and instruction booklet!

poor baby boy, go whine to your mommy!

[3Vandoo]

The problem with the west is that it was created by a federal entities, not an union and federation like the founding province. Without Ottawa there would be no BC or Alberta.

and the funniest thing is that QUEBEC WANTS THE same ****ing thing as the west.

I remember many years ago they did that thing, they kept Preston Manning with some hardcore western redneck with some hardcore separatist for 72h in a room.
At first they were ennemies and ended up as friend sharing the same ideas and visions.

That country is crap thanx to the liberals !

We have selfish westerners, centered ontarians, nutcase quebecers, eastern fishermen and drunken irish in NF.

[GQ-Bouncer]

i was in honors history, we studied european history, especially the WW2

we moved onto Vietnam and the Gulf war, all the psychological and geopolitical reasons behind the three

[LORDBLiTZ]

poor baby boy, go whine to your mommy!

LMAOOO You know the only reason we can't have direct TV here is because theres no french on it

[Blown_SC]

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE!! I'll drink to that, so long as BC and Alberta get to split too and leave Ontario holding the bag. Now that would make me laugh.

Fvck you chica!!!!
I wish Ontario was so much more like Alberta and BC.... I'd like to move to Calgary or Victoria actually.. love it there...

[bad_man]

You Canadians are funny, thinking that any of this matters.

[Blown_SC]

You Canadians are funny, thinking that any of this matters.

You're still one of us bro ...

[Mart651]

You Canadians are funny, thinking that any of this matters.

or that any one else knows what the hell you are talking about.

[chicamahomico]

**** ex-pats. Blown, you are welcome in BC anytime, there is a high homosexual population in Vancouver so you will fit right in .

You Canadians are funny, thinking that any of this matters.

[Blown_SC]

**** ex-pats. Blown, you are welcome in BC anytime, there is a high homosexual population in Vancouver so you will fit right in .

Of course I would... cuz I'm thuuuuuper.
But, I'd have to sell the ride and get a ricer...

[Red Ketchup]

LMAOOO You know the only reason we can't have direct TV here is because theres no french on it

Actually it's a lot worse than that...

TV, Satelite and Cable programming (ie: what channels they are allowed to distribute in Canada), is all regulated by CANCON (Canadian Content) rules set forth by the CRTC and dictated by the "Heritage Minister" and all her cronies (Rogers, Videotron, Star-Choice, Bell...) who won't allow fair TV competition with the US distributors.

The french issue doesn't even enter into it, the average french Canadian doesn't even know Direct TV exists nor does he care since there is no french programming on it.

As for bilingual packaging, get use to it... many products are now even tri-lingual. I bought groceries and shampoo in the US last summer that were labeled in English, Spanish and French. It's a simple matter of economics... it's alot cheaper to make 1 label for north america than 1 for mexico, 1 for US and english Canada, and 1 for french Canada.

Red

[Mart651]

Actually it's a lot worse than that...

TV, Satelite and Cable programming (ie: what channels they are allowed to distribute in Canada), is all regulated by CANCON (Canadian Content) rules set forth by the CRTC and dictated by the "Heritage Minister" and all her cronies (Rogers, Videotron, Star-Choice, Bell...) who won't allow fair TV competition with the US distributors.

The french issue doesn't even enter into it, the average french Canadian doesn't even know Direct TV exists nor does he care since there is no french programming on it.

As for bilingual packaging, get use to it... many products are now even tri-lingual. I bought groceries and shampoo in the US last summer that were labeled in English, Spanish and French. It's a simple matter of economics... it's alot cheaper to make 1 label for north america than 1 for mexico, 1 for US and english Canada, and 1 for french Canada.

Red

I think all three places should be required to speak and read English.

[Red Ketchup]

I think all three places should be required to speak and read English.

Well, if we looked at it on a global scale, the 2 most spoken languages are the dialects of Chinese and the dialects of Hindi

Based on their numbers of speakers alone they would be the 2 official "Earth Languages"

Ok so when do we start to speak chinese?

Red

[Little Girl]

Okay, this is a dumb question. In the US we have american history as part of our core education. So my question is do you in Canada have Canadian History as part of your core education?

As an history teacher.. Don't let me tell what I think!!!! lol! You american people!!! You are too funny!
Once I met a guy in Florida and he thought the province of Quebec was an American State...

Now, here's my question: In Canada we have geographic as part of our core education. So my question is do you in US have geographic as part of your core education?

S'tie qui sont épais!

LG

[chicamahomico]

In my belief, it should be the company's place to decide what labelling they put on their packaging. The possible exception could be for safety issues but we already have universal symbols for that and so only reason we have French on the labels of products is because the Canadian Federal GVT follows it's usual trend of catering to the the minority at the expense of the majority.

There is no valid reason for the GVT to force private company to label it's products in any given laguage(s) so long as the appropriate saftey symbols are used. Let the market decide..........oh right, I forgot, this is Canada and unfortunately we don't do that here.

If it were a matter of economies of scale, which is what you are saying, then there would be no need to legislate it. The language thing is just a form of protectionism (within a domestic market ....double blechh!! ).

...
As for bilingual packaging, get use to it... many products are now even tri-lingual. I bought groceries and shampoo in the US last summer that were labeled in English, Spanish and French. It's a simple matter of economics... it's alot cheaper to make 1 label for north america than 1 for mexico, 1 for US and english Canada, and 1 for french Canada.
Red

[chicamahomico]

Red, you have neglected weight in your assumption. The may be a zillion Hindi and Mandarin speakers but if you add up, in a global context, GDP per person and then distiribute it across languages, English is by far the language of commerce. The average English speaker's real GDP is much greater than the average Chinise or East Indians real GDP.

Bottom line: at this time English speakers hold the best game in town (ie financial opportunity) and you want to play then you are best suited to speak the language.

Well, if we looked at it on a global scale, the 2 most spoken languages are the dialects of Chinese and the dialects of Hindi

Based on their numbers of speakers alone they would be the 2 official "Earth Languages"

Ok so when do we start to speak chinese?

Red

[Blown_SC]

Red, you have neglected weight in your assumption. The may be a zillion Hindi and Mandarin speakers but if you add up, in a global context, GDP per person and then distiribute it across languages, English is by far the language of commerce. The average English speaker's real GDP is much greater than the average Chinise or East Indians real GDP.

Bottom line: at this time English speakers hold the best game in town (ie financial opportunity) and you want to play then you are best suited to speak the language.

Great post chica... I was thinking along the same lines..... 'the language of commerce'....

I like reading yours, Red's, B_M's and MBH's posts... nice to hear a CDN perspective once in a while...

[Red Ketchup]

Bottom line: at this time English speakers hold the best game in town (ie financial opportunity) and you want to play then you are best suited to speak the language.

Ah but of course, I was only refering to numbers of people speaking X language. I was not attaching any value to them or comparing their "worth" with a rich north American or European.

It's obvious that for now English is indeed the language of commerce.

Red

[Red Ketchup]

If it were a matter of economies of scale, which is what you are saying, then there would be no need to legislate it. The language thing is just a form of protectionism (within a domestic market ....double blechh!! ).

Yup, welcome to Canada... the simple fact this country has 2 official languages makes everything more complicated. But it could be a lot worse, look at the packaging from some european countries that have 3-4 official languages, it's pretty scary.

And then even if the fed government didnt legislate bilingual packaging, the provincial gov here in quebec forces it... it's illegal to sell stuff here that doesn't contain french packaging and instructions along with whatever other language.

Bleargh! Politics smell bad!

Red

[3Vandoo]

LMAOOO You know the only reason we can't have direct TV here is because theres no french on it

Go say that to the liberals man!

lots of frenchies want that too, including me!

Well, we are the king of hacking them tho

[chicamahomico]

Fair enough. I wasn't sure if you were up to speed as some people have this notion that China is currently an economic powerhouse.

Ah but of course, I was only refering to numbers of people speaking X language. I was not attaching any value to them or comparing their "worth" with a rich north American or European.

It's obvious that for now English is indeed the language of commerce.

Red

[chicamahomico]

Fair enough. I wasn't sure if you were up to speed as some people have this notion that China is currently an economic powerhouse.

Ah but of course, I was only refering to numbers of people speaking X language. I was not attaching any value to them or comparing their "worth" with a rich north American or European.

It's obvious that for now English is indeed the language of commerce.

Red

[Red Ketchup]

S'tie qui sont épais!

Sibol! Gène tois pas, laisse tout sortir!

Do you teach history at the primaire or secondaire level? It's been a loooong time since I read that stuff, but I am sure it was a lot more detailed as the diluted watered down and "politically corrected" history I've seen in my kids homework.

Red

[LORDBLiTZ]

Go say that to the liberals man!

lots of frenchies want that too, including me!

Well, we are the king of hacking them tho

Yeah i know, bro. I'm just playing around. I don't have anything against my French brothers. And you're right! I know a lot of bros working on the p4/p5 right now

[LORDBLiTZ]

You're right, red. The CRTC sucks cock! It's pisses me off that this is a free country and we don't even have the right to choose the TV programming of our choice.

Actually it's a lot worse than that...

TV, Satelite and Cable programming (ie: what channels they are allowed to distribute in Canada), is all regulated by CANCON (Canadian Content) rules set forth by the CRTC and dictated by the "Heritage Minister" and all her cronies (Rogers, Videotron, Star-Choice, Bell...) who won't allow fair TV competition with the US distributors.

The french issue doesn't even enter into it, the average french Canadian doesn't even know Direct TV exists nor does he care since there is no french programming on it.

As for bilingual packaging, get use to it... many products are now even tri-lingual. I bought groceries and shampoo in the US last summer that were labeled in English, Spanish and French. It's a simple matter of economics... it's alot cheaper to make 1 label for north america than 1 for mexico, 1 for US and english Canada, and 1 for french Canada.

Red

[chicamahomico]

who told you that? The CRTC is utterly ridiculous, like most other gvt social programs.

You're right, red. The CRTC sucks cock! It's pisses me off that this is a free country and we don't even have the right to choose the TV programming of our choice.

[Little Girl]

Didn't we(Canada) give you boys a lickin in 1812 ?

While I was a student, I was a guide at the Canadian War Museum and every American visitors were surprised snd upset to know that they lost that war! loL! Thanks Genenal Brock!

LG