Unemployement among academics in the states?

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 02:46 PM

How is the jobmarket for scienticts in the us nowdays? Is it easy for someone with a Phd to find a job?

**MatrixGuy** · 11-01-2005, 03:15 PM

You thinking of moving to the States bro?

Bump.

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 03:36 PM

lol well it has always been my plan

But not for years to come since I have many years left of my education.

**Pinkvelvet** · 11-01-2005, 03:37 PM

Not that you might consider..but, we are short in areas of science with individuals having a Phd...Doctorate...etc. Canada that is...specifically where I am.

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 03:41 PM

I dont think canada invests in the fields of research Im interested in so that would rule the country out

but Im also interested in the trends of countries. In sweden the unemployement among academics has increased with 100% during the last years. Not a good prospect for the future.

**Pinkvelvet** · 11-01-2005, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by johan

I dont think canada invests in the fields of research Im interested in so that would rule the country out

but Im also interested in the trends of countries. In sweden the unemployement among academics has increased with 100% during the last years. Not a good prospect for the future.

That depends....

But, I guess you'd have to do your homework. I know the University of Alberta is in need of specific areas...and, some of the finest individuals are recruited.

But, good luck...

http://www.careers.ualberta.ca/Oppor...x.aspx?Page=62

Just in case you feel like looking.

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 03:50 PM

thanks Il check it out

I am though as I said far from finishing my education lol just a undergrad.

what is the general consensus on science in canada? Is it something that get heavy investments or has it suffered like in all other socialist influenced countries like sweden?

**Pinkvelvet** · 11-01-2005, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by johan

thanks Il check it out

I am though as I said far from finishing my education lol just a undergrad.

what is the general consensus on science in canada? Is it something that get heavy investments or has it suffered like in all other socialist influenced countries like sweden?

We don't invest Heavy...but, Canada has contributed more and more each year...with many huge returns coming out each year.
Check out the UofA...and, you can read much research that is occuring just in that university alone.

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 04:02 PM

reading right now

Do you know if they have any good student exchange program with european countries?

**Pinkvelvet** · 11-01-2005, 04:09 PM

http://www.international.ualberta.ca/

I have been in classes with exchange students from New Zealand, Korea, England...and, many more!

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 04:29 PM

thats cool. If I was single I would defenetly study abroad.

**Smak** · 11-01-2005, 04:36 PM

What's wrong with Sveden? The girls there are sort of hot I hear

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Smak

What's wrong with Sveden? The girls there are sort of hot I hear

not even 1000 hot chicks make up for beeing unemployed after going through 8-10 years of university

**Pinkvelvet** · 11-01-2005, 04:40 PM

no job....no money...no gal!

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-01-2005, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Pinkvelvet

no job....no money...no gal!

exactly and if you are a good representative of canadian woman I think I could stomach living there

**samoth** · 11-04-2005, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by johan

How is the jobmarket for scienticts in the us nowdays? Is it easy for someone with a Phd to find a job?

Hey broly, check out www.physicsforums.com for good info regarding this and our area of study. They have a newer forum for academic and career guidance that has many similar questions (int'l and US) with knowledgable people answering.

My only advice: stay out of the theoretical branch.

**Kärnfysikern** · 11-04-2005, 03:56 AM

thanks bro. I have been browsing that board alot lately but I have never noticed the career guidance before

A shame, theoretical physics is what I would like to get into to. One of the reasons I want to move later on is because my university is so specialised in material science(Surface & Semiconductor Physics, Surface Physics & Chemistry,Thinfilm Physics, Plasma & Coatings Physics and nanotechnology) and to be honest I find those things quite boring

Lately a big fascination for ZPE has sparked in me. But there is no QED course at my university either

So right now Im weighting betwen astrophysics or quantum field theory but I guess none of those 2 are that easy to find jobs as??

**saboudian** · 11-04-2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by johan

How is the jobmarket for scienticts in the us nowdays? Is it easy for someone with a Phd to find a job?

It would be essentially impossible to find a job in the US with a PhD in theoretical physics.

**samoth** · 11-04-2005, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by johan

thanks bro. I have been browsing that board alot lately but I have never noticed the career guidance before

A shame, theoretical physics is what I would like to get into to. One of the reasons I want to move later on is because my university is so specialised in material science(Surface & Semiconductor Physics, Surface Physics & Chemistry,Thinfilm Physics, Plasma & Coatings Physics and nanotechnology) and to be honest I find those things quite boring

Lately a big fascination for ZPE has sparked in me. But there is no QED course at my university either

So right now Im weighting betwen astrophysics or quantum field theory but I guess none of those 2 are that easy to find jobs as??

All theoretical research in physics is the elite of the elite -- the true geniuses. Unless you thing you can rival the best in the world, don't get your hopes up. There's so few positions worldwide, that only the very best get in, but getting the professor position sans heavily-funded cutting-edge research wouldn't be overly difficult. Condensed matter physics is the biggest field right now, and HEP is up there as well. Astro is a very diverse field, as long as you are open about what you will be doing.

"It would be essentially impossible to find a job in the US with a PhD in theoretical physics." is an ignorant statement. Ignore him. If you had a PhD in theoretical, you would have absolutely no problem finding a job. You would have stiff competition for the elite theoretical research positions at the HYPSCM's, but finding a job in academia would present no problem. In general, physics PhD job placement is very high, so don't even worry about that. Theoretical would probably be an advantage in the industry market, as they are quite rare. They usually have to settle for the bottom of the barrel, aka engineers