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    What's going to happen to the Steroid Profile section?

    Now that Hooker is banned what will happen to the Steroid Profile section? Hooker still owns the copyright on those profiles and that is one of the most important parts of this board (along with the Steroid Questions forum).

    Yes, MilitiaGuy, the Religion forum is not as important...

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    hooker does not (and never did) own the profiles. what gave you that impression? he didn't write all the profiles (though he did write the majority) so the whole forum wouldn't just dissapear. no worries, it is one of the greatest assests this board has, and it will remain.

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    I assume that AR holds the copyright

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    Hooker was banned??? I thought he just gave up posting so he could pursue his writing or something.

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    yeah whats up with that? i didnt no hooker was banned

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    ok understand that he's not banned, he can still post. There are two sides to every story, I suggest you all keep that in mind when you only get 1/2 of the real story from 1 man. Stay on the board to learn or whatever, it is still a great place. But try to stay out of the drama, it's just a circle that goes round and round.

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    i believe Brian. (the owner of the board) paid for those profiles, so he OWNS them. Their not going anywhere.

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    They are A.R.'s profiles.

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    ...and hooker is not banned. Profiles are fine

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    This is why you have to love A.R.

    Hooker banned, He was one of few people that gave good info and advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    This is why you have to love A.R.

    Hooker banned, ...
    Stop saying he is banned!

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    1. Hooker cannot post on these forums. I know this for a fact, as I logged into his account and tried to post and it would not let me. I am not sure if he was banned.

    2. I was not aware that AR owned the profiles. I'm sorry for making an assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    hooker does not (and never did) own the profiles. what gave you that impression? he didn't write all the profiles (though he did write the majority) so the whole forum wouldn't just dissapear. no worries, it is one of the greatest assests this board has, and it will remain.
    I'm sorry. I made an assumption based on the fact that the Steroid Profiles forum has a description that states: **COPYRIGHT PROTECTED** A list of Steroid Profiles to Help You Understand Each Drug and How They Are Used. Since hooker wrote or compiled most of the profiles I just thought he owned the copyright. I wasn't aware that he was paid for them, but now that you mention it I remember AR was paying for people to write some profiles a while ago.

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    If you mean you tried to PM him, he has lost profile, but is still, to my understanding allowed to post in public forum. If you mean you logged on as him...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    1. Hooker cannot post on these forums. I know this for a fact, as I logged into his account and tried to post and it would not let me. I am not sure if he was banned.
    How the hell did you do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    ok understand that he's not banned, he can still post. There are two sides to every story, I suggest you all keep that in mind when you only get 1/2 of the real story from 1 man. Stay on the board to learn or whatever, it is still a great place. But try to stay out of the drama, it's just a circle that goes round and round.
    He cannot post. I've tried to post from his account.

    I would really like to hear the other half of the story. Can one of the veterans post the true story of what happened and not lock the thread so it can be discussed? A lot of member's are really clueless as to what happened, including me. I'm sure that a lot of people would feel more at ease with all of these conspiracy theories put to rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    I'm sorry. I made an assumption based on the fact that the Steroid Profiles forum has a description that states: **COPYRIGHT PROTECTED** A list of Steroid Profiles to Help You Understand Each Drug and How They Are Used. Since hooker wrote or compiled most of the profiles I just thought he owned the copyright. I wasn't aware that he was paid for them, but now that you mention it I remember AR was paying for people to write some profiles a while ago.
    no need to be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    How the hell did you do that?
    Hooker gave some people access to his account after all of this went down. It makes me sad that he had to do this. I haven't felt this sad since Einstein got into that whole scam shit...

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    read this

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I've been banned from posting here, because I confronted 956Vette, about this conversation he had with me the other day, and tried to stick up for the members who have earned vet/mod status, but will never get it because they are not his friend(s):

    The following is a conversation I had with the person who makes people mods and vets here. Basically he admits that mods and vets are only have that status, since he has been in charge, because they are his friends, and have no other merit:

    Anthony says:
    coincidence? that your buddies became active?
    Anthony says:
    or you said: become active so i don't need to remove you
    ***** says:
    big N i may want to moderate
    Anthony says:
    how about you not contact your buddies, in private and tell them to become active so you can mod them, though?
    Anthony says:
    and you surreptitiously told your mates to start being active again, so you could mod them [without merit]
    Anthony says:
    and de-vet [others]
    ****says:
    damn straight i did
    I am the boss to a degree and want to surrond myself with guys i can work with.

    (in addition, he allows 2 of the mods here to stay because they deal him rec drugs):



    Anthony says:
    I don't understand why you let those two stay....
    ***** says:
    they have their uses
    Anthony says:
    I can't see it from here...
    ****says:
    lol
    Anthony says:
    huh?
    Anthony says:
    what don't i get?
    ****says:
    They help me out...you know...flipping burgers and bagging grass when i mow the lawn


    (Obviously, grass is Pot, and "flipping' is slang for ecstacy or E + Acid known as "candy flipping")

    Just thought you guys, the members, would want to know why I can't post....pass this PM along, if you think it's

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    He cannot post. I've tried to post from his account.

    I would really like to hear the other half of the story. Can one of the veterans post the true story of what happened and not lock the thread so it can be discussed? A lot of member's are really clueless as to what happened, including me. I'm sure that a lot of people would feel more at ease with all of these conspiracy theories put to rest.
    Well that's news to me. I didn't know he couldn't post. As for the entire story I don't know it. I just know more than the average member. For the whole story to be posted you'd have to hear it from the admin, owner or the mods. It's not my place to do so. In my opinion I think the members do deserve to know what happened, but like I said it's not my board and not my decision. I try my best to stay out of board politics and drama, I'm just here to learn and share my knowledge.

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    gsxxr - there's more to that than meets the eye. Hooker had vets made that were made b/c they were his friends. I recall a discussion about one who was just the month before or so asking what needle to inject with and was made a vet b/c he was a fav. of hooker. so it's on both sides, but you never hear both sides...just keep that in mind.

    alright I'll step out of this one b/c I don't like to get involved in drama, but I also don't like to see 1/2 truths perpetuated as fact b/c of ego.

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    lol, i particularly like the X and grass inclusion

    Wonderfully cited message...I sure I really gave some consideration when i typed that out

    Hooker can post, HOWEVER, it has to go under review by system admin or myself. His posting has to be compliant with the rules. YES, hooker is a great asset and the rules have been bent around HIM Goes to show you cant help everyone and certainly cant make everyone happy.

    Hooker can continue to bash staff, vets, you members when you become staff, and further fuk his rep and book sales somewhere else. AR sponsors and especially writers should have higher expections!

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    gsxxr - there's more to that than meets the eye. Hooker had vets made that were made b/c they were his friends. I recall a discussion about one who was just the month before or so asking what needle to inject with and was made a vet b/c he was a fav. of hooker. so it's on both sides, but you never hear both sides...just keep that in mind.

    alright I'll step out of this one b/c I don't like to get involved in drama, but I also don't like to see 1/2 truths perpetuated as fact b/c of ego.
    That is right. there is alwas more to a story. this story could go on for ever when it comes to how and who people became a vet.
    Last edited by G-1000; 11-11-2005 at 11:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 956Vette
    lol, i particularly like the X and grass inclusion

    Wonderfully cited message...I sure I really gave some consideration when i typed that out
    I know what you mean. It makes no sense to talk like that over the internet, where things can be copied and saved. it smells fishy. but you never know

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    This thread makes Baby Jesus cry... I should never have started it...

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    Surely the owners/bosses of this board can make someone a MOD or VET for whatever reason they see fit, if it were my board I would make MODs and VETs of whoever I wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    That is right. there is alwas more to a story. this story could go on for ever when it comes to how and how people became a vet.
    Exactly! There is one golden rule which has served me well on this board and in life. Never take one persons word as truth! Think of this: for every opinion you get, every news cast you see, every piece of advice given on this board, there is conflicting information. The best thing to do is get many opinions, watch many newscasts and read many news articles, and get many different pieces of advice. From there you formulate what you think is right and you try it out. Then you modify your approach to suit your needs.

    The parallel to this board is obvious. Never take one mans advice as fact. Weather that person is a mod, vet, writer, senior or newbie member. Everything you read you should get many opinions. This will help you make the best decision for you. Many people take mod, vet, writers... opinion as hard fact. It is far from this. Their (our) opinions are based on research but above all else experience. Still multiple perspectives should always be sought out, no matter how much you respect a certain member no matter who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    This thread makes Baby Jesus cry... I should never have started it...
    god bless the simpsons

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    This thread makes Baby Jesus cry... I should never have started it...
    Oh no not baby jesus.

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    Is it inappropriate to hijack this thread?

    It's in the lounge afterall.

    I'd like everyone to gaze at my sig and revel in my perfection.

    That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    This thread makes Baby Jesus cry... I should never have started it...
    http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...ostcount=24202

    OMG guys, he posted! lol

    That post got through complaince no problem. thanks for your understanding

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    Exactly! There is one golden rule which has served me well on this board and in life. Never take one persons word as truth! Think of this: for every opinion you get, every news cast you see, every piece of advice given on this board, there is conflicting information.
    I totally agree. I genuinely like Hooker, he has always seemed a straight-up dude. However, it has been confirmed that other people have been telling half-truths (i.e. banned vs. post moderation.) When someone tells a half-truth it is as good as a lie and you don't know if ANYTHING that is said is true. I would really like to see everything come out in the open and let the System Admin settle this once and for all.
    The parallel to this board is obvious. Never take one mans advice as fact. Weather that person is a mod, vet, writer, senior or newbie member. Everything you read you should get many opinions. This will help you make the best decision for you. Many people take mod, vet, writers... opinion as hard fact. It is far from this. Their (our) opinions are based on research but above all else experience. Still multiple perspectives should always be sought out, no matter how much you respect a certain member no matter who they are.
    I agree. Which is why I feel that if Hooker's posts were moderated it leads the discussion to be kinda one sided. If Vette and whoever else have nothing to hide than by all means let him post unmoderated and let's settle this so AR can go back to being the best board on the net! Right now we are like GetBig.... If Hooker has truly done something wrong then he should be banned but no one has any proof of that because this whole subject has been suppressed...

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    Just one question - How is Scriptfactory able to post as Hooker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Is it inappropriate to hijack this thread?

    It's in the lounge afterall.

    I'd like everyone to gaze at my sig and revel in my perfection.

    That is all.
    I love you, Nark! Always quick with the post that has nothing to do with anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    Just one question - How is Scriptfactory able to post as Hooker?
    I already explained that. I didn't want to post this email but I hope it will verify that I just ain't here to make up shit. I love Anabolic Review. Every other board I visit is infested with racism, discrimination or blatant pornography (even though I DO love some good old porn...) so I just want to clear this have everything set straight.

    In the thread titled "Hooker" Vette claims I can post:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php
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    Bullshit. Log into steroid .com under my name.

    Username: hooker
    Password: ****

    You will note I can not post (try to post, then see what heppens).
    I can not access the userCP, and I can not change my password, or access any controls. Didn't 956Vette openly say I can post? So...now you can see, and verify first hand his lies.

    You don't have to even take my word for it...you can see all my shit has been altered and I can't do anything.

    Feel free to pass along my username and password and let everybody see that Vette is, once again, lying to you guys...the members.

    ~anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Is it inappropriate to hijack this thread?

    It's in the lounge afterall.

    I'd like everyone to gaze at my sig and revel in my perfection.

    That is all.
    Wow...that sig is hot.

    Mmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    god bless the simpsons
    And God bless you as well. The Simpsons should be a religion. It's better than Catholicism with less child rapists to boot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    I already explained that. I didn't want to post this email but I hope it will verify that I just ain't here to make up shit. I love Anabolic Review. Every other board I visit is infested with racism, discrimination or blatant pornography (even though I DO love some good old porn...) so I just want to clear this have everything set straight.
    Oh snap! More drama for your baby mama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Wow...that sig is hot.

    Mmmmmm
    Actually, now that I look at your sig you could use a little more chest thickness, man. You look like my last girlfriend. Enough to tease but not enough to please.

    Just kidding.

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