Thread: new argument
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11-17-2005, 06:15 PM #1
new argument
how many think the cop acted wrong? this is a local story going on in my area.
http://www.ksat.com/video/5346791/detail.html
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11-17-2005, 07:04 PM #2
i dont think the cop acted wrong the kid tried to hit him with the car, when a cop feels his life is in danger believe he will try to kill u...its not like the cop shot him for no reason he was ste****g cars and tried to kill an officer. but what pisses me off is that the mom tries to make it a sob story, saying he was looking towards his future cause he has a kid now...he has a baby and he's still doin dumb shit like that...
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11-17-2005, 07:09 PM #3Originally Posted by lucabratzi
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11-17-2005, 07:15 PM #4
took forever to load..never did..dammit
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11-17-2005, 07:16 PM #5Originally Posted by chest6
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11-17-2005, 07:20 PM #6
Well the kid sounds like straight up TRASH! But the cop was definitely in the wrong.
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11-17-2005, 07:23 PM #7Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-17-2005, 07:31 PM #8
The kid does sound like trash. Trash or not, I'm not sure he should have shot the kid to kill him. The police chief says that he fired one shot, the mom says there were bullet holes all over the car..hmm
Then again, I wasn't there and obviously the officer felt his life was in danger.
As far as the mother goes, I saw no excessive force, her fat ass more or less fell to the ground
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11-17-2005, 07:36 PM #9
if the cop felt he was in danger he did the right thing I mean if you get hit by a car you can easily die. I think the video on here a while ago about the cop who died from the AK-47 says it all. If you feel threatened shoot. It would be diffrent it was in a town where nothing every happens but in a place like that you never know what people are capable of
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11-17-2005, 07:38 PM #10
there were closeups of the car the only hole i saw was thru the windsheild. but the police investigator did say multiple shots were fired. anyhow when a car is comin at u that is considered deadly force and a cop is taught to shoot for center mass not the arm or tires.
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11-17-2005, 07:42 PM #11
Let's forget who is the criminal here! Prior arrests...just got out of jail...they tried to run over the officer...they're not the fvcking victim!!
Let's focus on what they were doing!! They were B&E'ing! If the officer was ran over and killed...then what!?
Fvcking people have too many rights now a days. No respect for the law.
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11-17-2005, 07:43 PM #12
The cop did what he needed to do to stay alive......... the kid should have never tried to run the cop down.
With the mom I saw no excessive force used on her.
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11-17-2005, 07:47 PM #13Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
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11-17-2005, 07:54 PM #14Originally Posted by edmen2
...too many factors, and I wasn't there....still hard to say.
And as people have no respect for the law, some cops have no respect for the people. Not saying that is the case here.
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11-17-2005, 08:46 PM #15
it just sucks that people are always saying the cops did wrong. no officer wants to draw his weapon to kill an 18 yr old kid.
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11-17-2005, 08:58 PM #16Originally Posted by edmen2
And him being on bond doesnt mean shit, because i was arrested once while on bond and i dont deserve to DIE!! people change.
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11-17-2005, 09:01 PM #17Originally Posted by 305GUY
It's always the cops fault..............
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11-17-2005, 09:03 PM #18Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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11-17-2005, 09:05 PM #19Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-17-2005, 09:07 PM #20Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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11-17-2005, 09:10 PM #21
Ok let me ask everyone a question here. Lets say the cop had MORE than enough time to move out of the way. Would killing the kid be wrong then??
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11-17-2005, 09:12 PM #22Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-17-2005, 09:17 PM #23Originally Posted by TheMudMan
What i'm saying is imagine the cop being 20-30 feet away from the vehicle. He yells freeze, the kids panic and step on the gas leaving a nice space in time for the officer to
A. get out of the way
B. Shoot the tire or a warning shot and get out of the way
C. Shoot at the kids head even though he had time to get out of the way
what would you guys choose?
Edit: keep in mind this kid was not HARMING anyone. He was just opening car doors. Hes not a bank robber or brandishing a weapon at all.Last edited by 305GUY; 11-17-2005 at 09:20 PM.
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11-17-2005, 09:18 PM #24
i would choose B myself.
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11-17-2005, 09:20 PM #25
In defenses of the cop we dont know what was going through his mind. I mean being put in a situation like that everything changes. Sure we all say well I would have shot back or dove out of the way but you don't know that(unless you have been in these situations before) adren****e is pumping your nervous and what might have been the kid trying to leave he thought hes gonna kill me so boom. Besides this wouldnt have happend if they would have stopped when the cop said "freeze" thats what it means don't move
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11-17-2005, 09:22 PM #26
why wont this let me type adren****e maybe if I spell it wrong adreneline
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11-17-2005, 09:22 PM #27Originally Posted by 305GUY
But like edmen2 said, "no officer wants to draw his weapon to kill an 18 year old kid"
Thats not something to be proud of. I can't imagine he went home to his family that day proud of himself.
Besides that, we all have the details after it's all over . The officer didn't know the details going into the situation. He probably had no idea it was a couple of 18 year old kids. All he knew in the heat of the moment is that the person tried running him over. Maybe he had weapons? maybe he would try again?
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11-17-2005, 09:24 PM #28Originally Posted by 24labor
So which option would you choose.
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11-17-2005, 09:24 PM #29Originally Posted by 305GUY
They were warned........ plus the cop shot a warning shot. The kid almost hit him and he fell to the ground. The cop fired again and killed him. The kid got what he deserved.
Now in your little dream world you created the cop still has cause to fire at the vehicle. If you have no respect for authority then you deserve what you get..............
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11-17-2005, 09:26 PM #30Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-17-2005, 09:27 PM #31Originally Posted by Reprisal 6
So which option would you choose if it were you??
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11-17-2005, 09:30 PM #32
You chose b. shot the tire. but what if he missed and frozed up and he got hit. Or if the car spun out of control and hit some kids or something
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11-17-2005, 09:30 PM #33Originally Posted by TheMudMan
If you think i was being a smart ass my apologies.
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11-17-2005, 09:32 PM #34Originally Posted by 305GUY
I don't mind joking around but I don't feel a lot of it has been.
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11-17-2005, 09:34 PM #35Originally Posted by 24labor
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11-17-2005, 09:38 PM #36
almost the same thing happened in stl a cop killed 2 people when a truck he pulled over started to roll backwards cause it was a manual transmission and on a hill. He claims he shot in self defense because he was in immediate danger of being run over. Y the fvck didn't he just jump out of the way, he obviously wasn't in that much trouble if he had time to kill 2 of the guys in the car and still get out of the way. Fvcking piece of sh!t cop. http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...7?OpenDocument
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11-17-2005, 09:40 PM #37Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-17-2005, 09:41 PM #38
the cop was freakin 20 feet behind the guys car when it started to slowly roll down hill, why did he shoot, if hes in immediate danger killing the driver isn't gonna do anything to stop the car but he felt he needed to kill the driver and another guy in the car.
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11-17-2005, 09:42 PM #39Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE
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11-17-2005, 09:43 PM #40
I'm still curious as to why I can't say adren****e.........can I say poop, ass, balls?
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