Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go!!!!

[keth'naab]

:d :d :d :d :d :d :d

[MeanMachine2000]

[RuhlFreak55]

everyone knew it was gonna turn out this way....

[SVTMuscle*]

w00t for the Bus, he's the man!! and good for Ward, he had an awesome game

[keth'naab]

Ward had a damn good game, hope he gets MVP

[SVTMuscle*]

he got it foo!



i love that escalade.....mmmmmmmm

[hotstuff]

I'm waitin for system admin to get home and see anyone happy about the way this game turned out.
The first half of this game was BS BS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The refs sucked A$$

[hotstuff]

Someone out there please tell me that the steelers did NOT really get that touchdown in the first half. come on....speak out!

[roger24]

what was with those f--king refs. i mean, c,mon its the nfl

[SVTMuscle*]

they got the touchdown, why wouldnt they? The one with the Seahawks getting turned around due offensive pass inter. was retarded

[tranzit]

I'm waitin for system admin to get home and see anyone happy about the way this game turned out.
The first half of this game was BS BS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The refs sucked A$$

EXACTLY that head ref was awful.. how can you NOT see that first TD was NOT a td.. it was plain as day.

[Bigpup101]

yea i'm a steelers fan but i do have sympathy for seahawks fans IMO you guys were robbed, the refs made EVERY call against the seahawks and they were alol on HUGE plays, i dont think we won that fair and square but.....

[24labor]

yea i'm a steelers fan but i do have sympathy for seahawks fans IMO you guys were robbed, the refs made EVERY call against the seahawks and they were alol on HUGE plays, i dont think we won that fair and square but.....

good man pump takes guts to admit as a steelers fan you got some help but its just how things are everyone knew it was gonna turn out like this everyday in the paper it was all ateelers the commercials were all steelers and so on it would have been a decent game but bad calls I really like the block below the wast on hasselback making the tackle so I guess everytime a guy on defense hits someone at the ankles its a 15 yd penetly o well still havent see a good superbowl since rams and titans

[keth'naab]

nah. the refs didn't win the game for the Steelers. The STeelers won the game, with a TON of help from Seattle and a little help from the refs, which they wouldn't have needed.

The TD for Ben was a TD. The tip of the ball only has to cross the plane of the goal line, which starts at the BEGINNING of the white line. Ben was in the air, he had his arm forward, and as he came down, he tucked the ball. Ball crossed the plane by about an eyebrow hair's breadth. Very close call, could've gone either way. However, on 4th and less than an inch, the Steelers get the TD, or at least a FG. Assuming they kick a FG, it's still 17-10 Steelers.

The call on Hasselback was irrelevant. Ward was open by a good 10 yards. Whether it's a 58 yard pass or a 58-yard pass and 15-yard run, it's still a TD.

Refs didn't block for Parker on his 75-yard run. Refs didn't drop 3 passes (That was Stevens)
Ref didn't throw an interception directly to Ike Taylor, killing a 90+ yard drive. Refs didn't mismanage the clock at the end of BOTH halves.

There were a few bad calls, and a few calls that were "either/or", could've gone either way. But in the end, Seattle beat themselves. They played poorly themselves, and they were completely unable to stop the big play (3 plays of 40+ yards for the STeelers, and the refs had NOTHING to do with that)

Shame there is so much whining going on.

and 24labor, how the heck can you say you haven't seen a good SB since Rams-Titans? WTF were the 3 Patriot victories? They were all close as hell!

[24labor]

they got the touchdown, why wouldnt they? The one with the Seahawks getting turned around due offensive pass inter. was retarded

true but I mean he did push off I mean it was the lightest pushoff ever but he still touched him I mean ive seen far worse push offs get away but...the worst was the pass hasselback threw and completed to the guy on the one yard line and after the play a holding was called not during but after on seattle and when the replay was showed even madden was like there was no holding there then 2 plays later interception. polotics baby polotics and money

[24labor]

nah. the refs didn't win the game for the Steelers. The STeelers won the game, with a TON of help from Seattle and a little help from the refs, which they wouldn't have needed.

The TD for Ben was a TD. The tip of the ball only has to cross the plane of the goal line, which starts at the BEGINNING of the white line. Ben was in the air, he had his arm forward, and as he came down, he tucked the ball. Ball crossed the plane by about an eyebrow hair's breadth. Very close call, could've gone either way. However, on 4th and less than an inch, the Steelers get the TD, or at least a FG. Assuming they kick a FG, it's still 17-10 Steelers.

The call on Hasselback was irrelevant. Ward was open by a good 10 yards. Whether it's a 58 yard pass or a 58-yard pass and 15-yard run, it's still a TD.

Refs didn't block for Parker on his 75-yard run. Refs didn't drop 3 passes (That was Stevens)
Ref didn't throw an interception directly to Ike Taylor, killing a 90+ yard drive. Refs didn't mismanage the clock at the end of BOTH halves.

There were a few bad calls, and a few calls that were "either/or", could've gone either way. But in the end, Seattle beat themselves. They played poorly themselves, and they were completely unable to stop the big play (3 plays of 40+ yards for the STeelers, and the refs had NOTHING to do with that)

Shame there is so much whining going on.

and 24labor, how the heck can you say you haven't seen a good SB since Rams-Titans? WTF were the 3 Patriot victories? They were all close as hell!

Yea but they would have never gotten thwe chance to run that trick play if the refs wouldnt have called the bogus holding call. Willies run was sweet no calls there but what about the holding call on seattle on the nice punt return from the far lines judge down feild and the guys right next to it didnt call anything. Steelers outplayed them but some oppurtunities would not have been there if the calls would have been fair and the pats victories whatever last year sucked the first one they one was pretty good (I think winning on a felid goal is saying our ofense and defense couldnt get it done so here it is) The panthers was a decent game but cmon that games was on the edge of your seat 1 play 1 arm 1 yard far better than any feild goal

[keth'naab]

no problem

let's give the hawks that one. It's still 21-14 Steelers.

The holding was ridiculous. Haggins got TACKLED.

Please, don't EVER take anything Madden says about the Steelers seriously. He was the head coach of the Raiders during the 70s, and the Steelers eliminated Madden's Raiders 5 times during the 70s. He HATES the Steelers.

Locklear tackled Haggins. You can't do that. I mean, I know Locklear plays a position called "offensive tackle", but when you grab a guy's shoulder pad and drag him down...that's holding. A very straightforward call.

and for what it's worth, the Seattle metropolitan area is FAR bigger than the PGH area. Far more money in Seattle than in PGH.

[24labor]

no problem

let's give the hawks that one. It's still 21-14 Steelers.

The holding was ridiculous. Haggins got TACKLED.

Please, don't EVER take anything Madden says about the Steelers seriously. He was the head coach of the Raiders during the 70s, and the Steelers eliminated Madden's Raiders 5 times during the 70s. He HATES the Steelers.

Locklear tackled Haggins. You can't do that. I mean, I know Locklear plays a position called "offensive tackle", but when you grab a guy's shoulder pad and drag him down...that's holding. A very straightforward call.

and for what it's worth, the Seattle metropolitan area is FAR bigger than the PGH area. Far more money in Seattle than in PGH.

true but all im saying is when maden and big al both question 3 very important calls that says something I'm not busting your chops I mean if my dolphins were in the big game id be like there was no help either but man. and that one holding im talking about isnt the headlock that wass fair game im talking about the one where the guy had turned the steelers guy like diagonaly and had his hands on the font of the shoulder pads and got called on both micheals and madden were stunned and after the play thats a call that need to be spotted during

[24labor]

think about how much money pitt will make on bus gear now though

[keth'naab]

well, the holding on Locklear was cut and dried. There is no doubt. Locklear had his hand wrapped on the outside of the shoulder, and had a grip on Haggins's shoulder pad and pulled him down. Seriously, that was a proper call, regardless of what John "I lost 4 Super Bowls because of the Steelers" Madden has to say.

Let's give the pushoff to the Seahawks. TD instead of field goal.

21-14, Steelers.

Let's say the Steelers DON'T score on Roeth's dive and they kick a field goal instead.

17-14, Steelers, still.

Now let's say the Seahawks actually manage the clock properly in the first or second half. Or that Stevens doesn't drop 3 passes, 2 of which stopped drives and forced punts. Or that...damn, the one receiver actually keeps his foot in bounds instead of playing like he's in college and leaves one foot in, one foot out.

Those were tide turners that actually had a DEFINITIVE impact on the game.

[24labor]

well, the holding on Locklear was cut and dried. There is no doubt. Locklear had his hand wrapped on the outside of the shoulder, and had a grip on Haggins's shoulder pad and pulled him down. Seriously, that was a proper call, regardless of what John "I lost 4 Super Bowls because of the Steelers" Madden has to say.

Let's give the pushoff to the Seahawks. TD instead of field goal.

21-14, Steelers.

Let's say the Steelers DON'T score on Roeth's dive and they kick a field goal instead.

17-14, Steelers, still.

Now let's say the Seahawks actually manage the clock properly in the first or second half. Or that Stevens doesn't drop 3 passes, 2 of which stopped drives and forced punts. Or that...damn, the one receiver actually keeps his foot in bounds instead of playing like he's in college and leaves one foot in, one foot out.

Those were tide turners that actually had a DEFINITIVE impact on the game.

no doubt that the hawks shot themselves in the foot with dropped passes but that trick play td was the game ending one which they might not have ran if that 15yd penatly was never called they still might have ran it they might not have but all the little calls hear and there as for the pushoff I honestly have to say b/c of the game it was called ive seen so many pushoffs so much worse than that the steelers dude barley moved from the push off

[keth'naab]

well, like I said, let's give the pushoff to the Seahawks. That's an extra 4 points (they kicked a field goal on that one)

still Steelers 21-14.

and if you check, the Ward-Randle-El hookup would definitely have happened, score or no score. Ward was WIDE OPEN, I mean, he had a good 10 yards on the dude, the pass was thrown perfectly.

nah. Refs sucked. Steelers would've won regardless. If Seattle had played well enough to win, they would've. But they didn't. I like Seattle, too.

Alexander ran the ball damn well. The Steelers are going to lose Bus and dump Staley. That's a good 5 million/year extra, and Alexander is a free agent....

[24labor]

well, the holding on Locklear was cut and dried. There is no doubt. Locklear had his hand wrapped on the outside of the shoulder, and had a grip on Haggins's shoulder pad and pulled him down. Seriously, that was a proper call, regardless of what John "I lost 4 Super Bowls because of the Steelers" Madden has to say.

e.

we msut be thiking of diffrent plays the one im talkign about was when the guy didnt fall down no one went down it was just his hands were on his shoulder maybe could have went either way but why wasnt it called during the play thats the kicked how can you say wait oh yes that was holding 5 secs ago just dosent pan out

[keth'naab]

the flag was on the ground. The whistle hadn't blown, that's all. You could actually see it while the play was going on.

I was in a dayroom with about 20 Seattle fans, and just before the pass let loose, one of them yelled "aw ****, holding"

I saw it too. *shrugs*

it's all good though. That doesn't matter. What matters is that Big Ben is going to have Shawn Alexander in his backfield next year.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!! *CLAP*STOMP*

[IronReload04]

ya budaayyyy, the bus is in the garage. yup. ya buddayyyy. i am so happy they diserve it

but you have to admit, the hassleback chop block penalty when he was playing defense was straight up the most retarded call i have ever seen in my life. he made the tackle for goodness sakes and he got called for chopping a defender who was standing next to the defender with the ball that he brought down

[keth'naab]

oh right. that call was the 2nd lamest call I've seen recently, the lamest being the "non-interception" call on Polomalu during the Indy playof game.

that penalty was bad, but Ward had 10 steps on the defender, so 58-yard TD pass or 58-yard pass + 15 yard run, Ward still scores.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!

now all the steelers have to do is let Bus retire, dump Staley, and take that 5 mill they get and put it toward Shawn Alexander, who is a free agent next year.

YEAH BABY!!!

[tranzit]

only a steelers fan could say that was a touch down.. run by ben was NOT a touch down and was not in ANY angle no matter how you looked at it a touch down. that ball didnt cross the line. Thats just rediculas to even try and say that.. everyone has eyes. and i can tell you that anyone who is not a fan of either team would tell you that was not a touchdown.

[pump_hungry]

only a steelers fan could say that was a touch down.. run by ben was NOT a touch down and was not in ANY angle no matter how you looked at it a touch down. that ball didnt cross the line. Thats just rediculas to even try and say that.. everyone has eyes. and i can tell you that anyone who is not a fan of either team would tell you that was not a touchdown.

Amen!

[3Vandoo]

I know two guys who play for the Seahawks, and it is too bad they lost.

Some calls made by the refs were a tiny bit too much, but dont forget all their turnovers!

[MR PHATT ASS]

oh right. that call was the 2nd lamest call I've seen recently, the lamest being the "non-interception" call on Polomalu during the Indy playof game.

that penalty was bad, but Ward had 10 steps on the defender, so 58-yard TD pass or 58-yard pass + 15 yard run, Ward still scores.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!

now all the steelers have to do is let Bus retire, dump Staley, and take that 5 mill they get and put it toward Shawn Alexander, who is a free agent next year.

YEAH BABY!!!

Don't know where your at but nothing better than being a Steeler fan in ohio close to the city that hates them...I just love listening to the freak sport tak shows here in ohio.! quest though..you think Stayley is done huh?? No doubt parker is gonna start next yr, that verron hayes has some good size..you relaly think Shawn will come to Pittsburgh?? I know Pitt would use him..Prolly more than seahawks used him yesturday!!!haaa...

[keth'naab]

well, with staley and bus gone, that's a lot of cap money floating around. I'd love to have him in PGH, to say the least.

good luck hanging in Ohio, HAHAHA....they hate us about as much as we hate them!!!

[MR PHATT ASS]

well, with staley and bus gone, that's a lot of cap money floating around. I'd love to have him in PGH, to say the least.

good luck hanging in Ohio, HAHAHA....they hate us about as much as we hate them!!!

Is Staley gonna be gone for sure you think??

[keth'naab]

yeah, he's gone

shame too, but i don't see us keeping him. he was completely inactive the last half of the season, and I'm pretty sure he is "healthy"

shame too, because he fits perfectly into our style, but he is obviously injury prone

[1bmf]

I am a Bears fan so I am not biased against any of the teams and I have to say Seattle got raped. Pittsburgh should name head ref Leavy MVP. Seattle not only had more yards, but more time of possession, and more turnovers. Seattle flat out dominated that game. They are the only team in superbowl history to lead in those 3 categories and still lose the game. That offensive passer interference call that resulting in the seattle touchdown being taken back was complete bullshit. Roeth admitted on Letterman that he didn't think he got that touchdown. That was another bullshit call. That 10 yard holding call that cost seattle the first down was absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who knows the rules of football will agree that the hasselbeck illegal block below the waist call is insane. He threw a pick so he is allowed to make the tackle. You can tackle below the waist on a change of possession. The fact that Leavy granted Roeth the T.O. even though it was called after the play clock cleary read 0 is another display of the biased officiating demonstrated the whole game. All those bad calls and being down in the game when you shouldn't be puts a mental toll on the Seahawk players so I am convinced that if it was called correctly seattle would have dominated the game even more than they already did. That game was a joke.

[keth'naab]

well, there were 6 disputed calls in the game. Even if all 6 calls went Seattle's way, they still would've been down 17-14, with a "chance" to win.

understand, their only "chance" is if the referee'ing was completely biased in Seattle's favor.

Some brief points, as I am sick of repeating myself.

1) Ref's had nothing to do with Willie Parker's 75 yard run
2) Ref's had nothing to do with Seattle allowing PGH to convert on 3rd and 28
3) Ref's had nothing to do with Seattle sticking Hines Ward in single coverage against a ROOKIE (who bit on the end-around, bigtime)
4) Ref's had nothing to do with Jeramy Stevens dropping 4 passes and Bobby Engram dropping 2 that would've produced first downs, but instead, produced punts.
5) Ref's had nothing to do with that mentally deficient "time management" near the end of BOTH the first and second halves by Hasselback/Holmgren.

Let's pretend that all 6 calls go Seattle's way.

1) Roeth's TD is stopped on the 1-vaginal-hair line. PGH was 100% on 4th and goal during the regular season. and if they go for the field goal, they make it. Let's assume they go for the field goal. This would drop the score to 17-10, Steelers.

2) The Pass interference - it *was* pass interference, there is no doubt about that. Whether it should've been called is up to anyone's interpretation. But screw it! Let's pretend it doesn't get called and Seattle gets the TD. OOPS! Seattle is STILL down 17-14.

3) Block below the waist - technically correct (like the "tuck" rule), but horrendously stupid. Also horrendously irrelevant, as the rookie that was covering Hines Ward (great move, BTW, putting a rookie in single coverage against Hines Ward) bit SO HARD on that end around, that Ward could've caught the ball, laid on his back, lifted his legs, and farted his way into the end zone. Randle-El has an absolute rocket for an arm, he had all damn day to make the pass, and he is accurate as heck (4 for 4 during the season, 15 for 17 during his career). It didn't matter whether Randle-El passes that ball from midfield or his own 35, that ball was going to land in Ward's hands, and the only affect the Hasselback penalty had was that Ward had to take a few less steps to get to the end zone.

4) Locklear holding - well, offensive lineman aren't supposed to grab the jersey outside the arms. Again, like the pass interference call, it was definitely a "penalty", according to the rules, but whether it shold've been called or not is to anyone's discretion.

5) The Hasselbeck fumble - it got called back in Seattle's favor...not all major calls went against Seattle - this would've had FAR more impact than Hasselbeck's block

6) The illegal pick that resulted in the Seahawks' TD - Polamalu got picked. REgardless, it didn't get called (that's 2!) and Seattle scores.

now then, let's recap.

As it stands, there were 6 "questionable" calls in the game, 4 went against Seattle. In order to make it "fair", 3 would go for PGH, 3 woudl go for Seattle.

Doesn't matter which of the disputed calls you switch to make things "fair", game still goes to PGH by at least a TD.

Let's give Seattle 4 of the 6 calls. Still, PGH wins.

Let's give Seattle ALL 6 of the calls. PGH would STILL be up 17-14, with Seattle being on the 2 yard line (the Locklear hold)

so, let's recap.

PGH gets 4 out of 6 calls, they win 21-10
Seattle gets all 6 calls, they are STILL DOWN 17-14.

*yawn* keep on whining, Seattle. Maybe next time, try covering the Steeler's #1 receiver on 3rd and 28. Or try not to allow the longest run from scrimmage in SB history. Or try to catch the ball (stevens...Engram...) Or learn a little something about controlling the clock near the end of the half.

Just a few thoughts.

[KhrisiGirl]

well, there were 6 disputed calls in the game. Even if all 6 calls went Seattle's way, they still would've been down 17-14, with a "chance" to win.

understand, their only "chance" is if the referee'ing was completely biased in Seattle's favor.

Some brief points, as I am sick of repeating myself.

1) Ref's had nothing to do with Willie Parker's 75 yard run
2) Ref's had nothing to do with Seattle allowing PGH to convert on 3rd and 28
3) Ref's had nothing to do with Seattle sticking Hines Ward in single coverage against a ROOKIE (who bit on the end-around, bigtime)
4) Ref's had nothing to do with Jeramy Stevens dropping 4 passes and Bobby Engram dropping 2 that would've produced first downs, but instead, produced punts.
5) Ref's had nothing to do with that mentally deficient "time management" near the end of BOTH the first and second halves by Hasselback/Holmgren.

Let's pretend that all 6 calls go Seattle's way.

1) Roeth's TD is stopped on the 1-vaginal-hair line. PGH was 100% on 4th and goal during the regular season. and if they go for the field goal, they make it. Let's assume they go for the field goal. This would drop the score to 17-10, Steelers.

2) The Pass interference - it *was* pass interference, there is no doubt about that. Whether it should've been called is up to anyone's interpretation. But screw it! Let's pretend it doesn't get called and Seattle gets the TD. OOPS! Seattle is STILL down 17-14.

3) Block below the waist - technically correct (like the "tuck" rule), but horrendously stupid. Also horrendously irrelevant, as the rookie that was covering Hines Ward (great move, BTW, putting a rookie in single coverage against Hines Ward) bit SO HARD on that end around, that Ward could've caught the ball, laid on his back, lifted his legs, and farted his way into the end zone. Randle-El has an absolute rocket for an arm, he had all damn day to make the pass, and he is accurate as heck (4 for 4 during the season, 15 for 17 during his career). It didn't matter whether Randle-El passes that ball from midfield or his own 35, that ball was going to land in Ward's hands, and the only affect the Hasselback penalty had was that Ward had to take a few less steps to get to the end zone.

4) Locklear holding - well, offensive lineman aren't supposed to grab the jersey outside the arms. Again, like the pass interference call, it was definitely a "penalty", according to the rules, but whether it shold've been called or not is to anyone's discretion.

5) The Hasselbeck fumble - it got called back in Seattle's favor...not all major calls went against Seattle - this would've had FAR more impact than Hasselbeck's block

6) The illegal pick that resulted in the Seahawks' TD - Polamalu got picked. REgardless, it didn't get called (that's 2!) and Seattle scores.

now then, let's recap.

As it stands, there were 6 "questionable" calls in the game, 4 went against Seattle. In order to make it "fair", 3 would go for PGH, 3 woudl go for Seattle.

Doesn't matter which of the disputed calls you switch to make things "fair", game still goes to PGH by at least a TD.

Let's give Seattle 4 of the 6 calls. Still, PGH wins.

Let's give Seattle ALL 6 of the calls. PGH would STILL be up 17-14, with Seattle being on the 2 yard line (the Locklear hold)

so, let's recap.

PGH gets 4 out of 6 calls, they win 21-10
Seattle gets all 6 calls, they are STILL DOWN 17-14.

*yawn* keep on whining, Seattle. Maybe next time, try covering the Steeler's #1 receiver on 3rd and 28. Or try not to allow the longest run from scrimmage in SB history. Or try to catch the ball (stevens...Engram...) Or learn a little something about controlling the clock near the end of the half.

Just a few thoughts.

Hey do you mind if I print this out? I am a Steelers fan and I am SO SICK of defending myself and the Steelers.
Khrisi

[keth'naab]

go for it chica!

I actually forgot another bad call that went against the steelers.

A Seattle pass-catch-fumble that was ruled an incomplete pass. Dude caught the pass, took a step, and fumbled, but it was ruled incomplete.

whatever. let the whiners meow, reality, to them, is just too painful I suppose.

[bustedbusted]

hahaha i luv it its been way too long since 95 waitn for the steelers im so happy bettis can go out the rite way he deff deserves it!!!

[24labor]

3) Block below the waist - technically correct (like the "tuck" rule), but horrendously stupid. Also horrendously irrelevant, as the rookie that was covering Hines Ward (great move, BTW, putting a rookie in single coverage against Hines Ward) bit SO HARD on that end around, that Ward could've caught the ball, laid on his back, lifted his legs, and farted his way into the end zone. Randle-El has an absolute rocket for an arm, he had all damn day to make the pass, and he is accurate as heck (4 for 4 during the season, 15 for 17 during his career). It didn't matter whether Randle-El passes that ball from midfield or his own 35, that ball was going to land in Ward's hands, and the only affect the Hasselback penalty had was that Ward had to take a few less steps to get to the end zone.

5) The Hasselbeck fumble - it got called back in Seattle's favor...not all major calls went against Seattle - this would've had FAR more impact than Hasselbeck's block

.

The block was stupid but your right it wouldnt have made a diffrence but its all if how do you know they would have ran that play maybe they would have done something else we dont know

The fumble well since randle el did the same thing on the play he got hurt and the same thing happened to willie parked in the denver game id say it was not a gimmie to seattle

[keth'naab]

the block was very stupid. I saw it get called 3 times this year, and every time I just shake my head wondering.

the option? Well, 15 for 17. That's pretty good, Randle El is a damn good QB on the option.

besides, they had a rookie in single coverage on Hines Ward. It doesn't take a genius to figure "hey, let's fool the rookie!"