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    Question Ignorance Is Bliss... Are Steroids Bad For You?!?!

    Before all you small balled juice monkeys come and rip my head off... this is just a friiiiiiiiendly conversation to gather a collective thought of this board.

    I read A LOT of threads on people seeing commercials and watching TLC programs about idiots like Mr. Val. himself claiming that steroids made his arm explode. I agree, those are absolutely preposterous and I even took the time to write TLC ranting about this false discernment and lack of information... Now, one thing I do notice is many completely denying the fact (sorry, IDEA) that steroids may have potential negative effects on a person. Yes, I know everything in moderation... BUT, do you think that prolonged or even short term use IN MODERATION could be detrimental on your health. Do you think that we are decreasing our life expectancy or increasing our risk of disease? Do you believe that ignorance IS bliss simply because you are running 1g of test and need to justify your actions?

    Please, lets discuss and have fun with this conversation... I just want to see if we are all on different pages or have complete biased opinions being part of a "steroid" forum that shares a communal thought...

    Peace out... my opinions will be posted periodically... let's discuss...

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    Anabolic steroids **Important** read please!


    I'm writing this blog crap because I am getting fed up with the ignorance of some people in regards to anabolic steroids. I have seen a lot of TV shows and ads from America and the bias towards how dangerous steroids are is unbelievable. Recently though, this has become more and more prominent in the UK and I have decided to take a stand myself.



    Basically, I ask for every one to educate themselves on something before they make a decision. If I asked every person I know about steroids who aren't interested in the gym , I would be guaranteed at least 90% answers of "They are BAD!" Why is this so? Well, basically the media and press tell us these horror stories about the drugs rather than tell us facts. I have been making a powerpoint presentation on the facts of steroids that no one ever hears about, and I will send it to people who want to learn rather than turn their back on the facts.



    So, now onto why the media (and most people) are wrong. We are told of these horrible side effects of steroids such as kidney failure, liver failure, heart disease etc. I want to inform you all that these side effects only happen when you ABUSE steroids. It is the same with anything. If you know what you are doing and do it right, it is not dangerous. Mess about with it, and it will be something you regret. Drink too much alcohol- dangerous. Drink too much water (in a short period of time)- Dangerous. Eat shit loads of fast food- dangerous. Eat only one or two foods ever- dangerous. Take too many headache tablets- dangerous. All I am saying is that ABUSE is not the same as USE. If you ABUSE something, then you are messing with it. Safe use is a completely different story.



    I also want to add that steroids are not miracle drugs. You don't just take them and you get muscles. A lot of hard work is involved in gaining the muscle size. You must work out for this to be of any benefit- and work out HARD. The diet of the user is also important. You need to have your diet in perfect order depending on what you are trying to achieve goal wise. I must also mention genetics in this. If you are not made out to be a bodybuilder, or your body does not have the capabilities to gain a lot of muscle (ie a Hardgainer) then steroids can help you get bigger, but will not necessarily make you huge. There are so many factors involved in getting the best out of steroid use.



    I'm not going to say much more on the matter for now, but if I remember anything I will add it here.



    And would people please please PLEASE ask me questions about this rather than just turn your back on it. We are told lies about these in the media and I'm fed up.



    Some drugs are dangerous and I am not making excuses. I would never recommend steroids to people unless they have done their own research and can prove this to me.



    Please leave comments on this, I would appreciate it



    Thanks



    (anabolic steroids should NOT be used by women and ESPECIALLY not to be used by children. Only healthy adult men should be thinking of these and they are a last resort, not just another drug! EDUCATE YOURSELF!)
    Great read, and thank you for your opinion.

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    ". ...We are told of these horrible side effects of steroids such as kidney failure, liver failure, heart disease etc. I want to inform you all that these side effects only happen when you ABUSE steroids. .... If you know what you are doing and do it right, it is not dangerous. .... Drink too much alcohol- dangerous. Drink too much water (in a short period of time)- Dangerous. Eat shit loads of fast food- dangerous. Eat only one or two foods ever- dangerous. Take too many headache tablets- dangerous. ... ABUSE is not the same as USE. ..."
    "I also want to add that steroids are not miracle drugs. You don't just take them and you get muscles. A lot of hard work is involved in gaining the muscle size. You must work out for this to be of any benefit- and work out HARD."


    I couldn't agree more.
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    Steroids are bad. But I love'm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffader
    Steroids are bad. But I love'm
    please elaborate. How are they bad?

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    Education is important.. If you chose to put it in your body or someone close to you does.. You have to know what you or those close to you are ingesting.

    When you take a drug whether it be prescribed or by one’s own choice there are risks and benefits.. You have to choose whether the benefits outweigh the risks and in the future you have to live with the choice you make.

    There is no denying the fact that steroids definitely make one stronger and for some they make others more appealing.. But again there are some risks associated with taking them – they have to be weighted.

    I’ve dated guys who have done cycles and I have dated guys who don’t do anything at all and is there differences in there bodies.. Yes.. Can I live with the differences of course…

    It’s those who abuse it.. And don’t take it in moderation that are of a concern to me. If someone who is close to me does gear and does it responsibility, than I’m not the least bit worried. It’s when they take it too far and start taking risks.. That I start worrying.. (A risk to me is when they take a higher dose than they know they should because they think it will make them bigger)

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    Cardio Kitten good post!

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    Mizfit is right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    Education is important.. If you chose to put it in your body or someone close to you does.. You have to know what you or those close to you are ingesting.

    When you take a drug whether it be prescribed or by one’s own choice there are risks and benefits.. You have to choose whether the benefits outweigh the risks and in the future you have to live with the choice you make.

    There is no denying the fact that steroids definitely make one stronger and for some they make others more appealing.. But again there are some risks associated with taking them – they have to be weighted.

    I’ve dated guys who have done cycles and I have dated guys who don’t do anything at all and is there differences in there bodies.. Yes.. Can I live with the differences of course…

    It’s those who abuse it.. And don’t take it in moderation that are of a concern to me. If someone who is close to me does gear and does it responsibility, than I’m not the least bit worried. It’s when they take it too far and start taking risks.. That I start worrying.. (A risk to me is when they take a higher dose than they know they should because they think it will make them bigger)
    Thank Mizzy... good stuff!

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    Booz, my ass is not for sale... please do not solicit on this thread! bwahaha

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    Where did that come from...........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Sane
    Booz, my ass is not for sale... please do not solicit on this thread! bwahaha
    What if he has salad dressing for that tossed salad

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAlexa
    Where did that come from...........?
    you'll see... He's always lurking around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    What if he has salad dressing for that tossed salad
    haha... okay, back on topic!!!

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    i dont think there good for you in any way, i feel that the side effects are way overated.

    roid rage.... myth no such thing

    high blood pressure i beleive

    liver problems.. no worse then drinking

    great body... most def

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    Quote Originally Posted by diezell
    i dont think there good for you in any way, i feel that the side effects are way overated.

    roid rage.... myth no such thing

    high blood pressure i beleive

    liver problems.. no worse then drinking

    great body... most def
    good point... blood pressure - long or short term? your thought?

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    i think short term it will have a big effect, long term no i think it will be very small if any effect

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    roid rage is the most overused, ignorant, and untruthful term though.

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    How about your balls shrinking, speeding up hair loss, gyno.....the list goes on and on..

    Slamming a needle in your muscles...That's alway a good one. hahahahahaha

    illegal..

    I Love'm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Sane
    good point... blood pressure - long or short term? your thought?
    lots of things can cause high blood pressure...

    Family history, being over 40, stress,caffeine & alcohol, smoking, people who do not exercise regularily.....

    Long term use of over-the-counter anti-inflammatory -such as aspirin & ibuprofen can also cause kidney damage which can lead to high blood pressure.

    Man this debate can go on and on and on

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    Deca Dick

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    Quote Originally Posted by diezell
    roid rage is the most overused, ignorant, and untruthful term though.
    and what's PMS? (devils advocate )

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    The devil every 23 days
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    and what's PMS? (devils advocate )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffader
    The devil every 23 days
    Not in Mizfit land..

    She never comes at least not in PMS format

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    That's because your Canadian, your always mean!

    Teasing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    Not in Mizfit land..

    She never comes at least not in PMS format

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    Alternatively people could choose to be like 70% of America and drink most of the time and smoke cigarettes.

    ~SC~

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Alternatively people could choose to be like 70% of America and drink most of the time and smoke cigarettes.

    ~SC~
    and get fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Alternatively people could choose to be like 70% of America and drink most of the time and smoke cigarettes.

    ~SC~
    So true...

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    BTW doesn't being over weight cause high blood pressure as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    and what's PMS? (devils advocate )
    lmao true, i had one gf who pms had literally no effect on

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Alternatively people could choose to be like 70% of America and drink most of the time and smoke cigarettes.

    ~SC~
    mickey d's 7 nights a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    BTW doesn't being over weight cause high blood pressure as well?
    yeah it does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffader
    How about your balls shrinking, speeding up hair loss, gyno.....the list goes on and on..
    balls shrink but they get back up to par... if you get hairloss it was inevitable anyway you just speeded up the process... hair growth is real too

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    Really obesity is worse than taking gear.. as are many other predicaments that life can put you in..

    DO you research.. Education is key... i'll take ya all on..

    And i betcha most of you would've ended up bald anyhow

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    I know 4 close friends on gear, and they havent seen any side effects to this day. One of them is even irresponsible with them and he has had no sides. They get blood test done and all and it all comes out well. Im really tired of the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Sane
    Before all you small balled juice monkeys come and rip my head off... this is just a friiiiiiiiendly conversation to gather a collective thought of this board.

    I read A LOT of threads on people seeing commercials and watching TLC programs about idiots like Mr. Val. himself claiming that steroids made his arm explode. I agree, those are absolutely preposterous and I even took the time to write TLC ranting about this false discernment and lack of information... Now, one thing I do notice is many completely denying the fact (sorry, IDEA) that steroids may have potential negative effects on a person. Yes, I know everything in moderation... BUT, do you think that prolonged or even short term use IN MODERATION could be detrimental on your health. Do you think that we are decreasing our life expectancy or increasing our risk of disease? Do you believe that ignorance IS bliss simply because you are running 1g of test and need to justify your actions?

    Please, lets discuss and have fun with this conversation... I just want to see if we are all on different pages or have complete biased opinions being part of a "steroid" forum that shares a communal thought...

    Peace out... my opinions will be posted periodically... let's discuss...

    sure steroids are bad for your health. ive even heard rumors that clomid causes brain tumors. but in my case, i really dont care. god would be doing me a favor if he killed me so what the fu_k? i might as well take lots of gear

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    The only thing I worry about is longterm mental and cardiovascular issues from steroids.

    It increases homocystein values alot, something that seems to be neglected by bodybuilders? Everyone talks about cholesterol but I rarely ever hear anyone mention homocystein.

    Luckily I have very low cholesterol so I dont have to worry about that, same with bloodpressure and the homocystein I take care of with b vitamins.

    Almost everyone I know off that has been juicing for a long time has mental problems though. The hard part is knowing if juice caused it or if its just because people that take juice are more prone to beeing half nutty from the begining(lets face it. The majority of bodybuilders aint right in the head )

    What I DO think is dangerous is all the shit that goes hand in hand with the steroids. Clen, ephedra and the list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    The only thing I worry about is longterm mental and cardiovascular issues from steroids.

    Luckily I have very low cholesterol so I dont have to worry about that, same with bloodpressure.

    Almost everyone I know off that has been juicing for a long time has mental problems though. The hard part is knowing if juice caused it or if its just because people that take juice are more prone to beeing half nutty from the begining(lets face it. The majority of bodybuilders aint right in the head )

    What I DO think is dangerous is all the shit that goes hand in hand with the steroids. Clen, ephedra and the list goes on.

    yea thats for sure. clen is pretty bad for your heart

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