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04-18-2006, 03:26 PM #1
gnc worker is a deuche bag
i go to gnc today to pick up some detour bars, there is this 18 year old, skinny asain midget looking sales guy(he wasnt an actual midget, just short) guy starts trying to get me to buy this "gacikc' crap, i tell him no thanks, he then proceeds to tell me, "say for example if you press 200lbs and that is you max, if you tak gakic, in 15 minute you will press 220lbs guaranteed) these were the exact words of this handjob!!! who the hell does he think he is kiddiing?!?!?!?! i feel bad, i hate those gnc workers who tak advantage of young kids who know nothing about supplements, this guywas one of those parasites, i cant believe he tried to pull that crap on me
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04-18-2006, 03:28 PM #2English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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04-18-2006, 03:30 PM #3
no
Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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04-18-2006, 03:31 PM #4
i whould bought it and used it then takeing it back for a refund you can do that at GNC just say it didnt work, they will refund you, no big deal to them, i always correct the GNC workers as well, " they say" " O' really " alot of times.
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04-18-2006, 03:32 PM #5
that shit is funny, I wonder how many buy them?
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Dumb kid just looking to make some cash to take is girl out. Then you come a long and make him feel like shit.
Good he needs to learn the hard way.
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04-18-2006, 03:32 PM #7Originally Posted by Logan13
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04-18-2006, 03:35 PM #8Originally Posted by gsxxr
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04-18-2006, 03:36 PM #9Originally Posted by NotSmall
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
Oral tren will
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04-18-2006, 03:47 PM #12Originally Posted by gsxxr
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04-18-2006, 03:51 PM #13
haha, cool people at gnc, i only enjoy the chicks who work there, they have common sense and really dont care about telling you about shit
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Methyltrienolone
(Methyltrienolone)
[17beta-Hydroxy-17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one]
Molecular Weight: 284.3974
Formula: C19H24O2
Melting Point: N/A
Manufacturer: Negma (never released), Underground Labs
Effective dose: 500-750mcgs/day
Active Life: 4-6hours
Detection Time: Unknown (never tested in humans)
Anabolic /Androgenic Ratio (estimated):12,000+/6,000+
Methyltrienolone (MT) is a very potent, reasonably toxic, non-aromatizing steroid . Ok. Lets go over those three points again.
First of all, MT is potent. It binds so strongly to the AR (androgen receptor) that it is often used in studies on other androgens to measure how strongly they bind. In other words, this stuff binds onto the AR receptor so strongly that it is pretty much the benchmark for that quality. If you’ve read my profile on Trenbolone Acetate (TA), you’ll note that I said TA is the most potent injectable weapon in our arsenal with regards to ability to bind to the Androgen receptor. That’s still true…because this particular compound is not in our arsenal, and it’s not injectable...it's simply the oral version of TA (i.e. it is Trenbolone which has undergone modification to become orally active, via the addition of a 17-alph-methyl group).
So why is it important that this stuff binds so tightly to the AR? Well, Androgen Receptors are found in both fat cells as well as muscle cells(8); they act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, and in the fat cells to affect fat burning.(9)(6) The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue(9)(5). Unfortunately, that strong binding doesn’t also automatically mean that it will elicit the strongest possible anabolic response, nor that the weakest bind will elicit a weak anabolic response. Anadrol (oxymetholone) has the weakest bind to the AR possible (too low to be measured), and it produces a profound anabolic response, for example. Dianabol is simarly low, and produces a very good anabolic response.
AR’s are found in both muscle tissue as well as adipose tissue. When a muscle’s AR is stimulated, it can induce hypertrophy. When an adipose tissue’s AR is stimulated, through various related mechanisms, fat is lost. This is a gross oversimplification. Whatever. All we need to know is that when you have a steroid that binds to the AR, it builds muscle and burns fat. And a steroid that binds very tightly to the AR will stimulate a lot of muscle synthesis and burn a lot of fat. A good example of this is Trenbolone. And since I mentioned Trenbolone, its worth further mentioning that MT is basically a 17aa (oral) version of (injectable) Trenbolone. AR binding and AR stimulation is not the only mechanism which stimulates anabolism, however. Its important to note that dbol has a very low AR binding ability and A50 has an AR binding ability which is too low to even measure! Both are very potent oral steroids , though. So while it’s important, AR binding/stimulation is not the end all & be all of anabolism, although it is an important part.
Don’t be fooled by the anabolic/androgenic ratio of this (or any steroid), either. The anabolic/androgenic ratio of MT would suggest that it produces 120(+)x the anabolic and 60(+)x androgenic effect of Testosterone (which has a score of 100 and 100 respectively). If one were able to get a bottle of this stuff, I believe it would be best used as part of a cutting cycle, stacked with some injectables (testosterone, etc…), but certainly no other orals. It’s just too toxic. Negma (the French company who brought Parabolan to the market, and then discontinued it) never pushed MT to gain approval as a commercially released item, since their original studies showed it to be highly toxic.
Methyltrienolone is, of course, a 19Nor compound (as is Trenbolone)...Thus, it will effect your sexual drive and performance in a similar way to both Tren and Nandrolone …meaning that Temporary Impotence and/or a lack of libido is highly possible (aka Tren-Dick or Deca Dick)(10). Another problem with MT is that it is a progestin, and binds shockingly well to the progesterone receptor also (PgR) (3). As we know, progestins amplify estrogenic effects of Aromatizing drugs. Although MT doesn’t aromatize, you will still need to worry about it’s ability to cause side-effects by amplifying the estrogenic issues caused by the other compounds you may be taking.
How toxic is this stuff? Well, it was never commercially marketed for use in humans, and has been relegated to Steroid-Purgatory, to be used only in studies. I’d probably rate it on around the same level as taking very high doses of halotestin or methyltestosterone . And I’d probably recommend that people keep doses of this product very low, much lower than reccomended doses typical of the other 2 compounds I just mentioned (i.e. 500-750mcgs/day…for not much longer than 3-4 weeks). I have had the good fortune to discuss this product with the owner of an Underground Lab, and he had given out several samples of this stuff to athletes he knew, and they all kept records and got regular bloodwork done. People who were in the 2mg/day range developed highly elevated liver enzymes and Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin). They all recovered, and through trial and error, a 500-750mcg dose was found to be (*relatively) safe, and (*roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate. For women, a possible side effect of MT is Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics), which is profound with this stuff (11), so it is entirely off limits for women to use.
You may want to take milk thistle with this compound, should you decide to try it, as well as (320mgs/day), ALA (500mgs per meal) and try some Pygeum Africanum (Permixon, the liposterolic extract of Serenoa)... stuff will all protect either your prostate or liver... in one study, it inhibited competitively the binding of Methyltrienolone to the cytosolic receptor of the rat prostate. You’ll still need to get blood work done, avoid other orals (this includes drinking, or anything else which could tax your liver), and monitor your health closely. This isn’t a drug for novices, clearly, and is probably only useful for pre-contest bodybuilders.
I’ve only seen MT available from one Underground Lab, and it came in a 50ml bottle, which was 1mg/ml, and was priced at $100. This translates to roughly 100 doses, at a reasonable cost of fifty-cents per dose. And since you would never want to run this particular drug for longer than 3-4 weeks at a time (maybe it would have use in the last few weeks before a bodybuilding competition, but not much else), you’ll get to use one bottle in 4 different cycles. That makes it no less dangerous, just reasonably cheap.
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04-18-2006, 03:55 PM #15Originally Posted by ~fuelforfire~
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04-18-2006, 03:57 PM #16
How do you know he was lying, he could've been telling the truth asains are pretty smart you know...
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04-18-2006, 03:58 PM #17
ahhh the oral tren seems tobe almost impossible tofind. very rare. i would like to get some
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04-18-2006, 04:01 PM #18
I have been to one or two gncs that actually have poepl there who know what theyre talking about, other than that most try and sell me muscle milk or multis
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04-18-2006, 04:01 PM #19Member
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wow I had never heard of it, with the toxicity and sides its probably good that its not available
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04-18-2006, 04:02 PM #20
the one i go to they never rip me off, i usually dont even give them a chance, i run in grab the megamass pay n go, i dont really even talk to them i pick up my phone when they come near lol
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04-18-2006, 04:25 PM #21Originally Posted by Tony Bologna
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04-18-2006, 04:35 PM #22Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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04-18-2006, 04:36 PM #23Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
Just kidding, relax
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04-18-2006, 04:47 PM #24
I try to avoid GNC but sometimes stroll in there if it is at the mall or something and we are killing time. Every time a guy is behind the counter and I walk in they aways say "do you work out man" .. I always say something like "no, I buy my shirts too small so it looks that way"
I have noticed girls that work there don't push products like the guys do. If they offer something it is vitamin C or the like.. I think the guys want to try to be your friend (Hoss syndrome).
I guess they are just doing their job.
~Old
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04-18-2006, 05:12 PM #25
Shit i bought it.. you mean it won't make me stronger?
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04-18-2006, 05:37 PM #26Female Member
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The GNC here has a little old lady working there... I mean I understand EOE but... c'mon now that's just crazy.
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04-18-2006, 05:47 PM #27Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
There is a legal supplement out right now under the name mega tren
instead of a 17aa it has a 17b methyl methoxy it is the closest thing to methyl tren you can find plus its legal!
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04-18-2006, 06:06 PM #28
HAHAHAHA I love it the immediate 10.5% increase in strength claims on the label guess after 15 minutes I'll be adding about 40lbs to my bench
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04-18-2006, 06:32 PM #29Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73
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04-18-2006, 06:39 PM #30
DOC yeah GNC sucks..yeah my buddie works at the one at the king of prussia mall he is told to push the gakic cuz it was not selling aswell there celltech they thought it would be the new creatine and put tons of time and money into it he gives it to me for very cheap.
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04-18-2006, 08:11 PM #31
arent all gnc workers jackasses? yep.
and most are fat shits. i dont understand it.
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04-18-2006, 08:56 PM #32Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
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04-18-2006, 09:04 PM #33Originally Posted by *Alex*
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04-18-2006, 09:06 PM #34Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
i have 4 bottles, all waiting to be used
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04-18-2006, 09:10 PM #35
also this fck head tried to explain to me that this gakic has the exact same chemical elements as dbol . first off that is just plain crap and even if it did , just because a product is made of the same elements doesnt mean it will work the same as another, it all comes down to themolecular configuration of each compound, just because to chemical compounds are exactly the same same carbon , hydrogen and oxygen, it all depends in how they are configured,double bonds, single bonds, etc etc(i forgot alot of the bio chem i learned years ago)now it seems gnc workers think they are bio chemists as well as useless fake product pushers
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04-18-2006, 09:11 PM #36Originally Posted by Rob
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04-18-2006, 10:54 PM #37AR Hall of Fame
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For the record, I've tried Gakic myself and I find it to be absolutely useless.
Taste like nothing but 8 sugar pills.
Does nothing at all.
I decided to test this product personally for my board and for a review as clients were always asking me about it.
My vote is that the creators, and the University of Florida, should all be bitchslapped 8 ways from Sunday.
~SC~
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04-18-2006, 11:09 PM #38Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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04-19-2006, 12:38 AM #39
I hate gnc with a passion. I like how people always try to sound smart but I end up correcting them...and as I do they will follow with "Yes...but"
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04-19-2006, 03:38 AM #40
GNC consistently overprices all of it's products, terrible health franchise
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