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    is sex bad for you???

    Case Study - Destruction produced by Male over-ejaculation/over-masturbation or Female Over-Masturbation/excessive orgasm for no sexual orgasm. Reader:01/06/2002>
    I tend to suffer from premature ejaculation. It varies how quickly it occurs but it almost always occurs before I desire it to. Until about 2 years ago, I masterbated almost daily (sometimes more than that). I am now 30 and have done so since age 12 or so. I suffer from depression although I currently take no medicine for it (I have taken medicine before). I have suffered from unknown lower back pain since I was 16. I also tend to have severe eye floaters and have been losing my hair since I was 23. I would appreciate your advice on how to overcome this problem.

    Dr. Lin: 01/09/2002>

    You have experienced the typical symptoms of sexual exhaustion due to over-masturbation since your puberty.
    Over-masturbation or over-ejaculation over-discharges the brain's acetylcholine, dopamine, and serotonin nerves systems, resulting in brain's/nervous (pro-sympathetic, due to over-conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine and epinephrine for stress responses), liver, cardiovascular, kidney, and endocrine disorder. Your brain/neuro-endocrine and liver systems are like an over-discharged car battery which won't start the engine to perform recharging for itself.
    The sexual exhaustion symptoms include:
    1. daily or orgasmic/ejaculation pains or cramps in pelvic cavity - including low back, tail bone, perineum, groins, perineum, penis (clitoris/vagina for women during penetration, intercourse, orgasm or post orgasm), testicles, low abdomen, neck/shoulders or rear brain (or whole head)- due to a lack of the relaxation and tissue-elastic hormone prostaglandin E-1 synthesized by the local tissues, an abrupt drop of the brain's neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin and GABA, or an excessive conversion of the dopamine->norepinephrine->epinephrine.
    2. depression, stress , anxiety, and emotional instability- due to deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin add GABA.
    3. Attention Deficiency and Absence mind (losing mind concentration) - due to the deficiency of the brain's neurotransmitters serotonin and acetylcholine - memory protection failure or insufficient memory.
    4. eye floaters or sun-light sensitive eyes - disorder of the nervous sensing (acetylcholine nervous) and amplifier (dopamine nervous) circuits.
    5. buzzing ears - the same as Item 4..
    6. less or no seminal production (vaginal dryness for women), weak ejaculation or ejaculation dysfunction - watery ejaculation or no ejaculation or orgasm - due to the neuro-endocrine disorder resulting from the weakening liver, adrenal, prostate and testicular (ovarian) functions. This is the destruction of seminal production mechanism for men. For women, it is due to a low estrogen or/and a high progesterone level in the bloodstream.
    7. weak erection or youth impotence.
    8. low libido, exhaustion and fatigue due to deficiency of the brain's neurotransmitters dopamine, acetylcholine and serotonin.
    9. prostatitis or urethitis ( the abrasion of the prostate or urethral duct; easier to have prostate/urethral/bladder infection) , urinary or bowel incontinence, and clitoral numbness or pains - disorders of the 3rd brain - the pelvic parasympathetic nerves S1-S5 and Co and the serotonin nervous modulators for the sympathetic T10-L2, particularly the L1 and L2 nervous branches to the bladder, urethra, prostate, bulbourethral glands, Great Vestibular glands, Urethral glands (de-generated seminal vesicles), clitoris, vagina, uterus and rectum/anus. men produces excessive pre-cum and women are vaginally over-wetted. Men or women may experience sex-/orgasm-induced stress incontinence (leakage or ejaculation of urine during sex or orgasm).
    10. penile (clitoral or G-spot for women) shrinkage ( or vaginal enlargement or loosening for women) - due to atrophy of spongy tissues caused by nervous damage, deficiency of acetylcholine or/and Nitric Oxide, or excessive stress hormone in the sympathetic alpha receptors.
    11. unwanted penile bending and shrinking (the clitoral/G-spot death and shrinkage)- formation of the scar tissues due to tissue and nervous abrasion .
    12. premature ejaculation - damage of the prostate/urethral nerves and duct, and burning-out (drop) of the serotonin and acetylcholine level in the brain and nervous synapses.
    13. premature hair loss or decoloring.
    14. short breathing and irregular cardiovascular output (sympathetic) - a weakening brain's acetylcholine and parasympathetic nervous function.
    15. white or violet nails - deficiency of Zinc.
    16. weak immunity - neuro-immune disorder resulting from the deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine (Yin Chi) and dopamine (Yang Chi). For example, easy to catch cool or get sick and requiring a longer time to get recovery from sickness.
    17. Sleeping disorder - due to the deficiency of serotonin and melatonin, both of which are synthesized by the pineal gland. This causes a deficiency hGH , an undercharging of the parasympathetic nervous system, and an excessive sympathetic nervous fire (Flight or Fight), resulting in back/joint/ligament pains or cramps, urinary or bowel incontinence, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), prostatitis or urethritis, as a result of no or insufficient healing (restoration) power in the organs. muscles, ligaments and joints.
    18. organ functional disorders in the 2nd brain (between the neck and pelvis) due to the weakening of the vagus (parasympathetic) nerves and the weakening serotonin nervous modulation on the sympathetic nervous functions - the most typical ones are: digestive , cardiovascular and liver systems; some experience the gallbladder and pancreas functional disorders too. The most visual or sensible disorder is stomach pain.
    This is some crazy stuff. Turns out that sex more than twice or thrice a week can mess you up in the long-run.
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    O jeezzz... dont worry mike.... that DR LIN guy is a grade A quack!!!... dude is full of it... let me guess... hes selling somesort of a pill or product for this "problem" right

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytrader
    O jeezzz... dont worry mike.... that DR LIN guy is a grade A quack!!!... dude is full of it... let me guess... hes selling somesort of a pill or product for this "problem" right
    haha. nah, he runs some sites answering ppl's questions. and oh man there are some good questions asked. lol

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    shit when i was in my early puberty i had to yank it atleast 4 times a day...how are they goin to say not to do it more then 2 times a week...im with gsxrr i will take my chances...

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    i dont think any incentive (except for sex with a hot girl everytime i get horny) will stop me from jerking off

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    You must remember that masturbation is normal and healthy, but this is over-ejaculation/over-masturbation which seems to cause many problems. And Ive read articles on how testosteron levels increase the longer you go without sex (possibly natures way to say you need to get some) until a week or two when they level off, ie max out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    You must remember that masturbation is normal and healthy, but this is over-ejaculation/over-masturbation which seems to cause many problems. And Ive read articles on how testosteron levels increase the longer you go without sex (possibly natures way to say you need to get some) until a week or two when they level off, ie max out.
    i need to get a hobby that involves me not being at home in front of my computer

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    You must remember that masturbation is normal and healthy, but this is over-ejaculation/over-masturbation which seems to cause many problems. And Ive read articles on how testosteron levels increase the longer you go without sex (possibly natures way to say you need to get some) until a week or two when they level off, ie max out.
    i rmeember reading somewhere (probably wikipedia) that while ejaculating, zinc is lost in semen. However, the zinc has to be carried out with Vitamin A. So basically we lose a bit of vitamin A when we ejaculate. But this could easily be replenished by eating something high in vitamin A... liek a carrot
    cant think of anything else

    dont quote me on it though

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    You might not want to hear this ...

    It seems some scientist's had way too much time on their hands ... and some extra dollars to spend in their research budgets.

    The effects of masturbation and over masturbation upon a mans body was recently looked at.

    And what exactly did they find?

    Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. Excessive stimulation can result in over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

    Abundant and unusually large amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and body functions to be extremely sympathetic. In other words, there is a big change of body chemistry when one excessively masturbates.

    Note: Masturbation is a healthy sexual behavior. Like other behaviors, when over practiced or addicted it can lead to both psychological and physiological imbalances.
    Side-effects of Masturbation

    Other than an immediate need for a towel or tissue, the effects of masturbation upon the male body were:

    * Fatigue. Feeling tired all the time
    * Lower back pain
    * Thinning hair / Hair Loss
    * Soft / Weak Erections
    * Premature Ejaculation
    * Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
    * Groin / Testicular Pain
    * Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone

    When to say when

    How much is too much masturbation (and sex for that matter)? That depends but it's suggested men keep their ejaculation frequency down to 2-3 times a week. However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system and make your penis firmer, your erections last longer, and your ejaculate volume bigger.

    Over masturbation participants experience problems with concentration and memory. This is a dangerous side effect of over masturbation and signals that the brain is being over drained of acetycholine. Over masturbation drains motor neurons and neuro-muscular endings of acetycholine, which is eventually replaced. Over masturbation can lead to absentmindedness, memory loss, lack of concentration, and eye floaters. To fight these symptoms, the chemical levels in your body needs to be balanced.
    more good info
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    Quote Originally Posted by stunner5000pt
    i need to get a hobby that involves me not being at home in front of my computer
    lmao. i got the same problem

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    Question
    Is it possible for a man to have an orgasm without an ejaculation?


    Answer
    Although most people usually use the terms orgasm and ejaculation interchangeably when referring to men, the two are, in fact, distinct processes. It is entirely possible, though uncommon, for men to have orgasms with no ejaculation, or even more rarely, ejaculation without orgasm. There are certain medical problems which cause a condition known as retrograde ejaculation in which a man ejaculates internally. Some men even deliberately teach themselves to clench their PC muscles very tightly or squeeze the end of the penis immediately prior to orgasm to avoid ejaculating.

    For reasons not entirely understood, it is ejaculation and not orgasm that causes a man to go into a refractory period. Thus, if a man can avoid ejaculating, he can keep his erection and have an almost unlimited number of orgasms. Hmmm... sounds better all the time doesn't it?


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    orgasming without ejaculation sounds painful...

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    ya i can see that...your not sposed to overmate......but ill take my chances haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucabratzi
    orgasming without ejaculation sounds painful...
    and hard to accomplish. where does the semen go? do you have to wait for it to run back into your bladder or something? and then just piss it out later...so whats the difference??

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    according to wikipedia

    Retrograde ejaculation may cause a couple to experience problems such as infertility, as most sperm do not get to the vagina and the rest of the female reproductive system. As a method to induce pregnancy, the retrograde ejaculator's urine is centrifuged and the isolated sperm is then injected into the woman.
    great... so now im potentially inpotent and its not even because of a bad PCT

    screw it... im doing it the old fashioned way

    someone pass me the tissue box!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stunner5000pt
    i rmeember reading somewhere (probably wikipedia) that while ejaculating, zinc is lost in semen. However, the zinc has to be carried out with Vitamin A. So basically we lose a bit of vitamin A when we ejaculate. But this could easily be replenished by eating something high in vitamin A... liek a carrot
    cant think of anything else

    dont quote me on it though
    VITAMIN A is good for the skin... not enuff vitamin A could cause ACNE..
    so...


    next study should be..

    STEROIDS USERS that MASTERBATE ALL THE TIME.. VERSUS STEROID USERS THAT HAVE A LIFE..

    and compare their ACNE....

    If its true that we lose Vitamin A when we ejaculate, I would suspect the masterbating user would have much worse ACNE.

    BUT THAN THATS WHAT TOXIC DOSES OF VITAMIN A AKA ACCUTANE IS FOR lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooks
    VITAMIN A is good for the skin... not enuff vitamin A could cause ACNE..
    so...


    next study should be..

    STEROIDS USERS that MASTERBATE ALL THE TIME.. VERSUS STEROID USERS THAT HAVE A LIFE..

    and compare their ACNE....

    If its true that we lose Vitamin A when we ejaculate, I would suspect the masterbating user would have much worse ACNE.

    BUT THAN THATS WHAT TOXIC DOSES OF VITAMIN A AKA ACCUTANE IS FOR lol
    if the study shows that steroid users that dont masturbate all the time have more acne... then my face is gonna be doomed

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    that guy probobly never gets any.

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    Probably suffers from erectile disfunction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Probably suffers from erectile disfunction.
    haha probly, n cool your from manitoba man.

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    no joke fellas.. i seriously just sat at my comp to rub one out before bed, i just happened to read this first.. well, there goes that plan.. yea, thanks buddy.

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    I hate this kinda shit. I mean f*ck everyday you turn on the news or read an article or a study you see something different. I am not kidding when I heard one day the news explaining how it is important to include bran shit in your diet. VERY NEXT DAY the news reported how now it can be linked to colon cancer. I mean f*ck when is this shit gonna end? Oh sex is good, nope now sex is bad. Creatine is great, tomorrow its bad and so on. I mean for god sakes spray deoderant can give you cancer now.

    Im pretty sure this world is going nowhere in a hurry with all of these people who cant make decisions for themselves and live life worrying about every little thing. Do whatever the hell you want, I mean for god sakes you have to have sex to procreate can it really be that bad? This is getting ridiculous.

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    I say f--k it. Most people on here, reading this,are exceptionally healthy people, eating right, exercising properly and regularly... taking vitamins and supplements and getting the proper amounts of sleep (especially you Webb..damn naps.. LOL)... I think these factors are cause for extra "special attention" in the sexual dept.

    It's just a theory, or perhaps I"m just rationalizing, but better blood circulation, faster metabolisms, higher energy levels... obviously someone possessing these qualities is going to want to spend a bit more time either engaging in sexual activity with a partner or sitting at their computer.. well, or something such as that for women..

    And like it was mentioned before.. everyday something new causes cancer or leads to some crazy disease and every product on the market goes through a trend change in order to satisfy the public.. trans fat free, low carb... all natural.. etc etc. If we followed everything "they" say, we wouldn't be doing anything or going anywhere... or engaging in very much pleasure at all.

    Sex/masturbation is a right dammit... don't let "them" scare you out of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    I hate this kinda shit. I mean f*ck everyday you turn on the news or read an article or a study you see something different. I am not kidding when I heard one day the news explaining how it is important to include bran shit in your diet. VERY NEXT DAY the news reported how now it can be linked to colon cancer. I mean f*ck when is this shit gonna end? Oh sex is good, nope now sex is bad. Creatine is great, tomorrow its bad and so on. I mean for god sakes spray deoderant can give you cancer now.

    Im pretty sure this world is going nowhere in a hurry with all of these people who cant make decisions for themselves and live life worrying about every little thing. Do whatever the hell you want, I mean for god sakes you have to have sex to procreate can it really be that bad? This is getting ridiculous.
    I heard a comedian comment on the same thing bro. He said the health authories said eggs were bad, then later said turns out they are good, after they said just the yolks are bad, but the whites are good. Now it seems ppl are saying the yolk is good again too. hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katelette81
    or sitting at their computer.. well, or something such as that for women..
    I always wondered if women sit in front of their computer

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    Well... I do spend a lot of time at my computer.. but not for that.. LOL

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    remember also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by squatdaddy
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    hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Katelette81
    I say f--k it. Most people on here, reading this,are exceptionally healthy people, eating right, exercising properly and regularly... taking vitamins and supplements and getting the proper amounts of sleep (especially you Webb..damn naps.. LOL)... I think these factors are cause for extra "special attention" in the sexual dept.

    It's just a theory, or perhaps I"m just rationalizing, but better blood circulation, faster metabolisms, higher energy levels... obviously someone possessing these qualities is going to want to spend a bit more time either engaging in sexual activity with a partner or sitting at their computer.. well, or something such as that for women..

    And like it was mentioned before.. everyday something new causes cancer or leads to some crazy disease and every product on the market goes through a trend change in order to satisfy the public.. trans fat free, low carb... all natural.. etc etc. If we followed everything "they" say, we wouldn't be doing anything or going anywhere... or engaging in very much pleasure at all.

    Sex/masturbation is a right dammit... don't let "them" scare you out of it...
    I heard that if you masturbate, hair will grow on the palm of your hands as well..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    I heard that if you masturbate, hair will grow on the palm of your hands as well..........

    This is also true... but can be avoided with a little dipilatory cream..

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    more good info

    how do you orgasm without ejackulating?

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    thanx for the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    how do you orgasm without ejackulating?
    supposedly u can hold it enough with your C muscle that it goes into your bladder - retrograde ejaculation

    not a good idea... could lead to impotence...

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