Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
yea i agree. ronnie has better genetics for mass. i doubt any amount of gh and juice will make jay beat king coleman
Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
yea i agree. ronnie has better genetics for mass. i doubt any amount of gh and juice will make jay beat king coleman
exactly, but he is still trying his best, it concerns me as to what the end result will be on jays health, as he is one of my favourite bodybuildersOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
Originally Posted by Timm1704
yea i know what you mean.
the bar has been set so rediculously high on pro body builders...
its almost like you need to destroy your body with gear to even place 15th in a comp.
Originally Posted by Tren Bull
but who cares as long as yer lookin swole right?
lol j/k man.![]()
where does it go from here? physiques have become more extreme over the years, to the point in where it is noticable from 5 years ago. when i first picked up a bodybuilding mag, it had an article on ronnie colemans delt routine, with pics of him in his police uniform, just after he had won his first olympia 8 years ago. he was a freak then, the freakiest in the mag, but the current version of him looks completely different, right down to the skull. 1998 ronnie looks like a child compared to 2006, and all the other guys are trying to keep up. i cannot see how the human body could become any more developed than they get themselves now, then again, they probably said that in reeves' day, arnolds day etc. time will tell, but there will no doubt be many disasters and horror stories along the wayOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
yea really bro. fu_k my liver and fu_k my other internal organs. those are internal problems. its all about the exterior
Lol, you know better quit fukin with me.
But I understand yer POV, I can feel like that at times.
Originally Posted by Timm1704
i know man. makes me kinda sad actually, especially cause i got friends getting into it, like webb for example. i dont want him to hurt himself, but hes pursuing something that almost requires that.
Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
well, im not about to run 4000+ mgs a week of gear, but il do heavy 8 week cycles of dbol/tbol/winni
I agree bro, I hope he does too. He's been on of my favorites since he turned Pro. Still have that tape somewhere around here...regardless I'd still give my left nut to have his physique...lolololOriginally Posted by C_Bino
Originally Posted by NCNPC29
yea, ronnie has won it so many times, id be happy if jay managed to place first for once. pushing yourself to that level only to be beaton by the same guy year after year would be pretty discouraging
Webb is a big boy, and he's kinda smart, if you write aeverything down in clear, concise directions for himOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
he'll be fine..
I'll take lots of pics of him next week for sure. Dude is even more impressive in person.
forget almost dude, to get far in competitive bodybuilding doesnt come without a price, this im sure. i understand that in years to come i will encounter some form of health problems from my lifestyle (high protein, high calories, heavy lifting, steroids, GH if and when i use it) but to me its all worth the risk, i just hope i still say the same when i do run into these problems. then, put our lifestyle, which most people would say is extreme, next to a pro bodybuilders, the damage they must be doing to themselves and their health must be scary as hellOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
Originally Posted by Tren Bull
Jay is more massive than ronnie... much shorter, almost the same weight..
Ronnie wins because of politics (and because he's amazing)
Even if jay shows up bigger, harder, more ripped and defined, coleman will still win.
Originally Posted by Evil Predator
i hope so. i got alot of love for that guy
Originally Posted by Timm1704
i feel the same way bro. there came a point where i totally stopped carring about the health risks, and about other people knowing what im doing. to be totally honest, i want it to be blatently obvious that ive been juicing heavily for a long time
Originally Posted by Evil Predator
that never occured to me, but i bet you're right
Gh can improve your health in moderation. Which I suppose is the problem, MODERATION.
dont get me wrong, i am very health-concious, and this site has taught me so much about RESPONSIBLE steroid use, but even using responsibly, there are still risks. my way of rationalising this, is that you can barely leave the house without health risks. gotta die of something, right? the moon could fall out of the sky and land on my house whilst i sleep tonight...... i hope that doesnt happen.... that would really, really hurtOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
Yeah I cant see how bb'ers these days will get any bigger but Im sure theyll find a way.....
Originally Posted by horse2006
We heard that about you Horse!! I feel sorry for your wife. Have you tried some viagra or cialis???![]()
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shit man i'mma have to disagree there. i saw the last mr. o and ronnie was both bigger and more ripped.Originally Posted by Evil Predator
at any rate they shoudl make these fukkers run a mile before they do their routines, and the ones who can't finish will be DQ'd. that'll get things back to the athletic look in a hurry.
I sat right next to Gustavo at last year's nationals. We had a LOOOOONG talk. He was pretty cool. Said he'll be looking for me at nationals. I thought that was a very nice compliment.Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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You forget the new rules that came down. Small tight waist and X frame. No belly distention. Look at the placement last year. Smaller guys like Dexter Jackson and David Henry are placing higher.Originally Posted by Timm1704
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Originally Posted by Carlos_E
Hell yea!
Thats cool as fuk. Interesting conversation? Learn anything from it?
Yikes...if that's true that's pretty nuts... I wonder how he afforded that type of gear back then? I know he hooked up with Aceto all the way back when he won his teenage show so maybe he gave him a good hook but still expensive for a 18 year old. I've heard him mention his family owned a construction company back in MA so maybe they were pretty well off and gave Jay money often.Originally Posted by Carlos_E
Originally Posted by J.S.N.
jay is thicker, he's a block, like a fridge...
ronnie has better lines...
im just saying, if jay was better, ron would still win..
Dorian definitely set a new level in the game as did Ronnie.
Originally Posted by NCNPC29
yea. dorian's back was unreal... like comic book style big
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I really don't find the GH gut monsters appealing whatsoever. Sure, they are huge, strong, put in work for sure, etc., but as far as wanting to look like that (not saying I could), but I still would never want to. I want a more aesthetic look, but like I said, I'm probably in the minority there. Not to mention the health issues down the road, because there is life after bb'ing. Well, at least there SHOULD be.
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well said, its the same with meOriginally Posted by Tren Bull
Originally Posted by SwoleCat
......Mean!
i agree completely. the size i want to get to, is nothing compared to the top-end pros, but even this size that im striving for involves health risks.Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Originally Posted by SwoleCat
I could'nt agree more and i cannot for the life of me unserstand how people think those guy's look good. They look like idiots no doubt IMO.
hey whos the fat man with the blonde hair?
nah bro it's totally true. i haven't seen jay cutler in real life, but i've read from a couple of people that he an even walk down a hallway wihtout mouth breathing. that's effing sad he basically has the cardio of a bed-ridden terminally obese person, and he's supposed to represent some ideal of health lol.Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Originally Posted by SwoleCat
agreed, guys like dexter and troy alves look awsome to me. Don't get me wrong, ronnie and jay are freaks, but i would prefer to look more like dexter/troy. i have to say also levrone probably had one of the best physiques i have ever seen, guy was awsome!
Holy bulk cycle Batman!
He looks hella huge in that pic.
Originally Posted by Carlos_E
Yeah but he looks mighty happy in this picture, like he just took a 10 lb shit and is headed out to eat 1/2 a cow.
Damn MrMen1on your arms look fvcking jacked thereOriginally Posted by MrMent1on
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