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    So is the Politics/Religion Forum done?

    It was good while it lasted.....

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    Hey youre right, it's gone. It was a little redundant with the same old, nonetheless their were interesting topics at times. Maybe itll get transferred all into the IN The News forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    It was good while it lasted.....

    not really.

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    figured it'd go. I tried to post in in for a bit but got tired of reading all the personal attacks and redundant "discussions"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmy
    figured it'd go. I tried to post in in for a bit but got tired of reading all the personal attacks and redundant "discussions"

    need to resurrect it in five years and see how relevant the discussions were.......now about your 386 trick?

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    what are you going to do with your life now badger??

    JK seriously it was redundant but entertaining, that sucks its gone. i guess somebody got offended or something, doesnt make any sense. hopefully someone will clairify it.

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    I dont hink Ive seen badgerman post anywhere but there.

    Why so?

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    political forum

    I do not think that it is gone guys, they had a "security breach" in the political forum. I believe that they are just dealing with it.

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    ^^^this ****tard kept posting in there, so they're getting rid of his posts.

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    yeah i quite enjoyed reading stuff in there. the only things that annoyed me was people relaying religion in a factual matter, and ofcourse, most of badgermans posts hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    I do not think that it is gone guys, they had a "security breach" in the political forum. I believe that they are just dealing with it.

    Here's the story basically.

    Last year militiaguy wrote me an email telling me why he'd love to murder Rak_Ani (female member). And was banned for a time, but the banning lapsed and he came back.

    Then last week I'd to ban him again, a permanent ban (ip addy included). And he then followed this with another email with a photo someone (a regular political forum member) sent him saying it was Rak_Ani and threatening to post it, including posting it on other boards too. It was only a photo from a webcam of a female face, and nothing else.

    With this in mind, and the serious nature of that board. Plus the continued personal attacks the forum had to be closed.

    Militiaguy is a banned member, although he might try to use proxy ip addresses to gain access again. If someone here suspects thats the case please report it to a Moderator.

    I think I know who the member is who passed the photo along, but without firm confirmation I can't post that here. But its being dealt with. The member will be banned permanently too.

    In a nutshell.

    Militiaguy was a confessed member of the Hezbollah party. He wants to kill an Israeli female member of this board, or failing that put her privacy and safety in jepardy.

    Questions?.

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    Damn, I signed on this morning and no Politics forum. I just read you Bouncer, and it sucks, that little worthless prick Mguy-bitch. Any idea where most of the posters from that forum are gonna go now? I liked posting with most of them...hey guys what forum are we gonna talk in? Any ideas...

    The security breach will hopefully be dealt with more harshly than a simple banning....Hey Mguy-bitch if you're reading this you worthless bucket of camel jizz lets meet up...say in Europe...and I'll give you a shot at fulfilling half a fantasy of yours...what do ya say bitch?

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    Wow. That's horrible. Doesn't suprise me though. I kinda figured it would go eventually....

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    It was a good thing through the posts to understand what certain segments of the Muslim religion believe. We had the oppertunity to learn it first hand and in depth. It is too bad that this was the fruit of it. I feel for the mods that now have to deal with all the nasty aftermath. Good luck all you admins dealing with it all.

    I hope the education does not cost the forum or any members.

    Didn't MilitiaGuy post pics of himself on his avitar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mesomorph
    It was a good thing through the posts to understand what certain segments of the Muslim religion believe. We had the oppertunity to learn it first hand and in depth. It is too bad that this was the fruit of it. I feel for the mods that now have to deal with all the nasty aftermath. Good luck all you admins dealing with it all.

    I hope the education does not cost the forum or any members.

    Didn't MilitiaGuy post pics of himself on his avitar?

    I have photographs of him. But I'm not going to lower myself to his standards by posting them. Basically he looks like another other Arab. Black hair, a beard, a little chubby. He's a college drop out and is unemployed, he's also enquired about getting a visa to work in the USA or Canada (I hope its not flight school!).

    I think he's let down fellow Muslim and Arab brothers and has just re-enforced what alot of ill informed westerners think about Arabs/Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timm1704
    yeah i quite enjoyed reading stuff in there. the only things that annoyed me was people relaying religion in a factual matter
    All religions claim to be the truth about God. So, it is impossible for a believer of any one of them to look at the different "religious truths" as syncretistic.

    "Truth is, by definition, exclusive. If truth does not exclude, then no assertion of a truth claim is being made; it's just an opinion that is being stated. Any time you make a truth claim, you mean something that is contrary to it is false. Truth excludes it's opposite."
    -Ravi Zacharias
    If you didn't want to hear any "truth claims", then maybe you shouldn't have opened up any threads that had religious subject matter.

    I personally would have never taken part in the forum if it was comprised of a bunch of PC wussies who's opinions were all harmonious, and non-threatening to each other. It would have been incredibly boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teabagger
    hey guys what forum are we gonna talk in? Any ideas...

    How about we take over this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman

    I personally would have never taken part in the forum if it was comprised of a bunch of PC wussies who's opinions were all harmonious, and non-threatening to each other. It would have been incredibly boring.

    Thats good to hear. Personally I hope the forum is restored someday, and some day soon. But at the end of the day this is a bodybuilding board and some people there never posted (or rarely) anywhere else on AR.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    I have photographs of him. But I'm not going to lower myself to his standards by posting them. Basically he looks like another other Arab. Black hair, a beard, a little chubby. He's a college drop out and is unemployed, he's also enquired about getting a visa to work in the USA or Canada (I hope its not flight school!).

    I think he's let down fellow Muslim and Arab brothers and has just re-enforced what alot of ill informed westerners think about Arabs/Muslims.

    exactly what i was thinking about. I spend so much time trying to correct people who mistakenly think that all muslims are like this...and then of course... idiots like this do stuff and no one remembers anyone else except the extremist. It's a shame.

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    Talk about reinforcing stereotypes... All the parties responsible should be ashamed of themselves, but they probably won't be. Hope the forum comes back soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    But at the end of the day this is a bodybuilding board and some people there never posted (or rarely) anywhere else on AR.com.
    I know! lol

    I used to post everywhere, but I'm not as serious about training now that I've gotten serious about other issues in my life. I've been posting in the pol/rel forum for less than a year!

    When I saw that it was gone last night, I thought that was the undoing of the forum.

    It would be nice to have the forum though..... I'm sure people that posted in there still use the info in other forums. I know I still did.

    Plus- we don't want new people to think we're all just pure meatheads, do we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    Here's the story basically.

    Last year militiaguy wrote me an email telling me why he'd love to murder Rak_Ani (female member). And was banned for a time, but the banning lapsed and he came back.

    Then last week I'd to ban him again, a permanent ban (ip addy included). And he then followed this with another email with a photo someone (a regular political forum member) sent him saying it was Rak_Ani and threatening to post it, including posting it on other boards too. It was only a photo from a webcam of a female face, and nothing else.

    With this in mind, and the serious nature of that board. Plus the continued personal attacks the forum had to be closed.

    Militiaguy is a banned member, although he might try to use proxy ip addresses to gain access again. If someone here suspects thats the case please report it to a Moderator.

    I think I know who the member is who passed the photo along, but without firm confirmation I can't post that here. But its being dealt with. The member will be banned permanently too.

    In a nutshell.

    Militiaguy was a confessed member of the Hezbollah party. He wants to kill an Israeli female member of this board, or failing that put her privacy and safety in jepardy.

    Questions?.
    That is very serious issue and immature behavior. I'm not sure if Rak will do such thing (I mean sharing her pic), especially with someone like M'Guy. But, if he ever does it, and posts a real pic of her, it can be dealt with properly. Let him don't forget that his real name is known and if he ever lands here, he will be taken care of properly, if you know what I mean. I hope he understands that very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teabagger
    hey guys what forum are we gonna talk in? Any ideas...
    Simple, start a P.R.W. whore thread in the lounge

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    I personally would have never taken part in the forum if it was comprised of a bunch of PC wussies who's opinions were all harmonious, and non-threatening to each other. It would have been incredibly boring.
    I second that. What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level. A true religion or politics forum is shit ass boring because of all the stiff people.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast and not talkin to some 10ib, zitty, pencilneck, rubbing of to his mommas underwear wierdo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I second that. What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level. A true religion or politics forum is shit ass boring because of all the stiff people.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast and not talkin to some 10ib, zitty, pencilneck, rubbing of to his mommas underwear wierdo.
    Holy crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I second that. What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level. A true religion or politics forum is shit ass boring because of all the stiff people.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast and not talkin to some 10ib, zitty, pencilneck, rubbing of to his mommas underwear wierdo.
    hahahahahah! good point johan

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I second that. What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level. A true religion or politics forum is shit ass boring because of all the stiff people.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast and not talkin to some 10ib, zitty, pencilneck, rubbing of to his mommas underwear wierdo.

    lol, yeah!

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    now lets just keep our fingers crossed that it gets back within a close future.
    The big question is now. How the hell am I gonna survive without anyone to argue with

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I second that. What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level. A true religion or politics forum is shit ass boring because of all the stiff people.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast and not talkin to some 10ib, zitty, pencilneck, rubbing of to his mommas underwear wierdo.
    You are too cool Johan, well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    The big question is now. How the hell am I gonna survive without anyone to argue with

    I was thinking the same thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    Here's the story basically.

    Last year militiaguy wrote me an email telling me why he'd love to murder Rak_Ani (female member). And was banned for a time, but the banning lapsed and he came back.

    Then last week I'd to ban him again, a permanent ban (ip addy included). And he then followed this with another email with a photo someone (a regular political forum member) sent him saying it was Rak_Ani and threatening to post it, including posting it on other boards too. It was only a photo from a webcam of a female face, and nothing else.

    With this in mind, and the serious nature of that board. Plus the continued personal attacks the forum had to be closed.

    Damn I remember they had heated arguments on that forum. It wasn't one I frequented often, but for those who did, it was a great outlet. Sometimes things got a little heated, but for the most part they didn't cross the line. Makes you wonder about his mindset, when he sent the emails to Bouncer.

    Militiaguy is a banned member, although he might try to use proxy ip addresses to gain access again. If someone here suspects thats the case please report it to a Moderator.

    I think I know who the member is who passed the photo along, but without firm confirmation I can't post that here. But its being dealt with. The member will be banned permanently too.

    In a nutshell.

    Militiaguy was a confessed member of the Hezbollah party. He wants to kill an Israeli female member of this board, or failing that put her privacy and safety in jepardy.

    Questions?.
    Sorry my comment is in the wrong place, I

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    Thats good to hear. Personally I hope the forum is restored someday, and some day soon. But at the end of the day this is a bodybuilding board and some people there never posted (or rarely) anywhere else on AR.com.
    Perhaps if it starts up again it will be by invite only or posts will have to approved by Mods until they have proven their entitlement to engage in mature adult debate. Can't remember the specifics rules on the political forum, they would prolly have to be re evaluated too. Would be nice to see it return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENMACHINE
    Perhaps if it starts up again it will be by invite only or posts will have to approved by Mods until they have proven their entitlement to engage in mature adult debate. Can't remember the specifics rules on the political forum, they would prolly have to be re evaluated too. Would be nice to see it return.


    I thought it was good the way it was. It wasn't perfect, but the mods did a good job in their moderating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    I have photographs of him. But I'm not going to lower myself to his standards by posting them. Basically he looks like another other Arab. Black hair, a beard, a little chubby. He's a college drop out and is unemployed, he's also enquired about getting a visa to work in the USA or Canada (I hope its not flight school!).

    I think he's let down fellow Muslim and Arab brothers and has just re-enforced what alot of ill informed westerners think about Arabs/Muslims.

    You should post pictures of him. I dont want some fvckin member of hezbollah trying to get a visa to enter my country. If you actually gave me those pics I'd pass them along to INS/FBI. I'm not taking chances with that piece of shit. If he actually did come here (probably to NYC cuz the whole Arab world is here) I would make it my personal mission to send his stupid ass back across the Atlantic.

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    As I sit here and ponder how M'guy could have possibly gotten Rak Ani's photo, I can think of only one possible way-- and even that is far fetched....

    But on that possibility..... if this scenario is what happened-- is it a fair assessment to say that peaceful Islam is a farce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    What made the forum fun was that we where a bunch of meatheads discussing those things on a pretty basic level.

    In the politics forum, no matter how angry someone got we always knew that we are all fellow lifters atleast
    Im not too sure of that. I question that to be honest.

    There were some members that would always have their agenda. They would always post their redundant, propoganda filled pro-Israeli or Palestinian topics day in day out. They literally bring or brought nothing else to this site not even within the political forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    As I sit here and ponder how M'guy could have possibly gotten Rak Ani's photo, I can think of only one possible way-- and even that is far fetched....

    But on that possibility..... if this scenario is what happened-- is it a fair assessment to say that peaceful Islam is a farce?
    That most definitely isn't a fair assessment, there are many peaceful Muslims. I think I know what you are insinuating and I doubt that is what happened, but if it is that still proves nothing about the entire religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    That most definitely isn't a fair assessment, there are many peaceful Muslims. I think I know what you are insinuating and I doubt that is what happened, but if it is that still proves nothing about the entire religion.

    I didn't mean for it to come out as a general statement about people-- more of an insinuation.


    Even still, I think the term is a bit of an oxymoron. I didn't say peaceful muslim, I said peaceful islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    That most definitely isn't a fair assessment, there are many peaceful Muslims. I think I know what you are insinuating and I doubt that is what happened, but if it is that still proves nothing about the entire religion.


    BTW, I doubt that is what happened as well. I probably shopuldn't have brought it up, but I just couldn't think of any other way..

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