If you were fired from a job, you must lie on future interviews

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 12:27 PM

If somebody gets fired from a job and during an interview gets asked the question, “So why do you leave” , they pretty much can’t rely on honesty. If they're candid about getting fired they really don’t stand much of a chance to land that job. Very few employers want to hire somebody that gets fired.

If you resigned from a job (like I did), then you’re usually deemed a quitter who lack patience and tolerance. So there you have it, you’re screwed either way.

**unvme9180** · 07-27-2006, 12:28 PM

are you just ranting or are you indirectly asking some kind of question?

**spywizard** · 07-27-2006, 12:31 PM

actually it's easiest to never say anything bad about the old employer.. just answer with you are looking for a more challenging position..

depends on what field you are in..

remember it's always easier to find a job when you have a job..

**chest6** · 07-27-2006, 01:07 PM

Thats why you say you voluntarily quit (left) because you had other interests..it aint hard. Then again..I've been gettin these HS level education jobs and I have no room to talk..but meh..seems like an easy concept

**Hackamaniac** · 07-27-2006, 01:10 PM

I have quit other jobs and put them on a resume and I have still not had them say anything bad about me.

**Sage** · 07-27-2006, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

remember it's always easier to find a job when you have a job..

ain't that the truth. its like you giving the guy a favor coming for an interview. You are just more relaxed and self-confident since you'll be getting a paycheck either way

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

Thats why you say you voluntarily quit (left) because you had other interests..it aint hard. Then again..I've been gettin these HS level education jobs and I have no room to talk..but meh..seems like an easy concept

If you voluntarily left a position without any imminent/promising leads you’re still labeled a quitter. Employers want to understand specifically why you left the position and what the situation was like there. Being vague will leave them with serious uncertainties and doubts about your background.

**Sage** · 07-27-2006, 01:39 PM

wtf, tell them you decided to go back to school or pursuing some type of certifications..........u gotta to lie niggah, lie ur azz off.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If you voluntarily left a position without any imminent/promising leads you’re still labeled a quitter. Employers want to understand specifically why you left the position and what the situation was like there. Being vague will leave them with serious uncertainties and doubts about your background.

I conduct interviews where i work. Most adults don't quit a job unless they have another. I wouldn't walk out from my job no matter how shitty it was. I have bills to pay. It really depends on what you do, as far as what to say.

Most companies will not give specific info on past employees. Usually just dates of employment unless they really liked you. They can be held liable.

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 01:58 PM

gixxerboy, Thanks for the input-
My 1st job out of college I resigned after 10 months without any promising leads. I worked in accounting and the company had cash flow issues, which put a strain on my work. If I had to do it over again, I'd have stayed. But there's not much I can do now. I have lost track of how many interviews I have been on since then, and I'm simply not getting chosen.

So going forward, do you have any recommendations as to what I can say regarding the reason I left? I really feel that specifically is why I'm not getting hired and actually motivated me to start this thread. Employers just don't like that reason for I left and I don't know what I can do now.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 02:13 PM

how long have you been unemployed?

**spywizard** · 07-27-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

gixxerboy, Thanks for the input-
My 1st job out of college I resigned after 10 months without any promising leads. I worked in accounting and the company had cash flow issues, which put a strain on my work. If I had to do it over again, I'd have stayed. But there's not much I can do now. I have lost track of how many interviews I have been on since then, and I'm simply not getting chosen.

So going forward, do you have any recommendations as to what I can say regarding the reason I left? I really feel that specifically is why I'm not getting hired and actually motivated me to start this thread. Employers just don't like that reason for I left and I don't know what I can do now.

what about the exit interview??? if not selected, you should talk or meet with the hiring person to see what you could have done to make yourself more hireable..

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

how long have you been unemployed?

8 months basically..

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 02:27 PM

Let me get this straight. You just graduated and started working for this company and you quit after 10 months. I don't know the dates all this happened. But can you say you quit to go back to school? You were going to take more classes. You can say you decided you cant afford not to work. Tell them you might continue classes at night while you work.
Either that or tell them you got laid off. Your old company was having financial problems you said. Not corp is going to say other wise. Also if you only have 10 months job experience you new prospect might not even call. I wouldn't.

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

what about the exit interview??? if not selected, you should talk or meet with the hiring person to see what you could have done to make yourself more hireable..

Thanks but I don't how feasible that is.

They take a week or two on deciding, then either ignore me or contact me via email that they went with another candidate. Another thing that bothers me is a hiring manager that doesn't even inform you that they aren't hiring you. I find it rather bad-mannered. They could at least email me to tell me I didn't get the position.

**Johny-too-small** · 07-27-2006, 02:28 PM

Honesty is the best policy. All the lies Ive told have always come back to kick me in the ass.

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Let me get this straight. You just graduated and started working for this company and you quit after 10 months. I don't know the dates all this happened. But can you say you quit to go back to school? You were going to take more classes. You can say you decided you cant afford not to work. Tell them you might continue classes at night while you work.
Either that or tell them you got laid off. Your old company was having financial problems you said. Not corp is going to say other wise. Also if you only have 10 months job experience you new prospect might not even call. I wouldn't.

Yea I've considered just saying i got laid off as the company was having cash flow problems.. I guess what stops me from doing that is fear they'll ask my former boss if I was laid off. The truth is they were having financial issues, but everyone was surprised when I decided to put in my 2 weeks notice and quit.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

Honesty is the best policy. All the lies Ive told have always come back to kick me in the ass.

I don't know 1 successful business person that doesn't BS

**Sage** · 07-27-2006, 02:41 PM

i found a job by making shit up on my resume and having my friends as references for confirmation right after college, in fact we all found jobs having each other as references. you just got to know how to play them white color suckas.

**rake922** · 07-27-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

Honesty is the best policy. All the lies Ive told have always come back to kick me in the ass.

If somebody was let go (fired) due to their insubordination, arrogance, or behavior it just won't work out for them if they're honest about that.

**Carlos_E** · 07-27-2006, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If somebody was let go (fired) due to their insubordination, arrogance, or behavior it just won't work out for them if they're honest about that.

If you're ever let go for that reason remove the job from your resume.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If somebody was let go (fired) due to their insubordination, arrogance, or behavior it just won't work out for them if they're honest about that.

They only way they are going to get hired is if the company is despirate. I been at jobs where they will hire almost anyone. They just need a body that can do a job.

**stee** · 07-27-2006, 03:48 PM

I recently had an interview, wasnt like anything i have done before.
i have heard that they had changed the format in the uk fire services, there were no questions where there was interaction between me and the interviewer.

They are called PQA's personal qualities and attributes.
They ask you a question regarding a certain situation e.g. tell me a time when you were in a stressfull situation?
then after i answered it,
how did you feel with what was going on?
then after than how do you feel everybody else felt? they were all a load bollox as 99% of interviews have always been anyway.
All they did was take notes.
I have heard it is exactly the same interview for recruits these day too

Maybe you will be able to work your way around questions regarding your previous employment by talking around the PQA structure regarding yoruself.
It would be worth a try as it is sent to a verifier so its like a mental evaluation.

If you talked like that maybe you would tick so many boxes that they are asking you they will not ask you about your last job or if they did, what you say to them may not have any baring on the outcome.

In the uk its againt the law to give a bad reference, today its just a formality. previous employers just say the dates you worked in that job.

**Johny-too-small** · 07-27-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

I don't know 1 successful business person that doesn't BS

Well youre looking at one here, partner. Then again, I am an architect, if I BS my work, people die.

**Johny-too-small** · 07-27-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If somebody was let go (fired) due to their insubordination, arrogance, or behavior it just won't work out for them if they're honest about that.

Correct. But there is two sides to every story, and there is more than one way to skin a cat. Instead of outright lying, just be more creative about detailing your "injury" to your job.

This is what lawyers do for a living.

**novastepp** · 07-27-2006, 04:00 PM

tell them it was your job right out of school, and it was promising then, but now you're looking for a serious place, in which you can work hard and grow as an employee.

**thegodfather** · 07-27-2006, 05:41 PM

what exactly is your degree in?

**dedic8ed1** · 07-27-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If somebody gets fired from a job and during an interview gets asked the question, “So why do you leave” , they pretty much can’t rely on honesty. If they're candid about getting fired they really don’t stand much of a chance to land that job. Very few employers want to hire somebody that gets fired.

If you resigned from a job (like I did), then you’re usually deemed a quitter who lack patience and tolerance. So there you have it, you’re screwed either way.

I would think that 9times out of 10 they won't even call your old jobs.I guess that's why were supposed to get a degree and let that speak for itself,wish I would've.If you need a excuse tell them there was no more room for advancment.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-27-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

Well youre looking at one here, partner. Then again, I am an architect, if I BS my work, people die.

You or your firm never bs'd a date you could have a project done to maybe get the contract? Never schmoozed an inspector? I wouldn't think you would do anything in put people in danger.

**xpijeonx** · 07-27-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by stee

In the uk its againt the law to give a bad reference, today its just a formality. previous employers just say the dates you worked in that job.

I was told this in a small business class in the U.S.(Utah) too. From what I remember it is against the law to ask about anything other then tardiness, no shows, notice of resignation things like that.

Not that they dont ask about that but if they mentioned that they did ask those questions to your previous employer and then tell you, you could have a lawsuit on your hands. If I remember correctly it is illegal on both ends too(previous employer and potential employer)

To me though, I would not risk my job if I were incharge of hiring to find out some "dirt" on an applicant.

**Johny-too-small** · 07-27-2006, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

You or your firm never bs'd a date you could have a project done to maybe get the contract? Never schmoozed an inspector? I wouldn't think you would do anything in put people in danger.

My firm handles a very select cliental. I set deadlines that are realistic because I know my business. I cannot schmooze inspectors, that is what the general contractor does

Anyway, I have never seen a business so anal as this biz. Everything must be exact, it echoes through all aspects of my dealings.

In addition, lying cost me a huge personal sacrifice. I have learned.