Victor Martinez - Sad News

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 10:22 AM

Victor Martinez mother passed away this past Tuesday.

He was REALLY messed up for a few days but he still lifted and did cardio. He decided not to return to the Dominican Republic to attend the funeral because he is a couple of weeks out from the Olympia.

I don't know if I would have made the same decision. But he is a pro and competing is his profession. I hope it does not effect his performance at the Olympia. My prays are with him and his family.

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 10:23 AM

Today he is doing a shoot for the road to the Olympia. I can't wait to see him on stage!!!! I'll be cheering for him!!!

**JohnboyF** · 09-10-2006, 10:26 AM

Thats sad news man. I really have to give him credit for training and doing his cardio. Not attending the funeral is his choice, as stated by Carlos he is professional. Arnold didn't attend his fathers either. But my prayers are with him.

Inna-lillahai-wa-inna (when a death message is recived_)

**305GUY** · 09-10-2006, 10:35 AM

he'll regret not attending his mothers funeral for years to come! very selfish IMO.

**rockhardman** · 09-10-2006, 10:35 AM

sorry to hear that, its a sad situation i wouldnt even know wut to do if i was in his shoes, but it also depends how close u are with ur mom, but my praying will be with him and his family!!!

**FranKieC** · 09-10-2006, 10:36 AM

I would have been at the funeral

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

he'll regret not attending his mothers funeral for years to come! very selfish IMO.

Who the hell are you to judge? You don't know his family situation.

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by rockhardman

sorry to hear that, its a sad situation i wouldnt even know wut to do if i was in his shoes, but it also depends how close u are with ur mom

I'm sure it was a hard decision to make. If he decided to go home he would have had to drop out of the Olympia.

**Hackamaniac** · 09-10-2006, 10:44 AM

I would of went to the funeral also...I am really close to my parents and would have to be there...I wish him the best....

**305GUY** · 09-10-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Who the hell are you to judge?

i'm somebody who undertstands that i have only ONE mother! and i have enough respect and human decency to atleast fly over for atleast 1 day to say my final goodbyes!!

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

You don't know his family situation.

true..but as you stated he "was MESSED up over the situation" so it sounds like they were at least semi close. i mean, i give him props to continue training and such, but is 2 days to go to your dead moms funeral to much to ask for...

anyways i should have stated JMO in my previous post!

**305GUY** · 09-10-2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

he'll regret not attending his mothers funeral for years to come! very selfish IMO.

oh wait I DID

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

very selfish IMO.

That's my point! Who the hell are you to judge? You don't know his family situation and have no clue what's involved the last weeks of contest prep for an Olympia. So get off your moral high horse. It was an extremely hard decision for him to make and I have NO RIGHT to judge him for it. I will support him.

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

Thats sad news man. I really have to give him credit for training and doing his cardio. Not attending the funeral is his choice, as stated by Carlos he is professional. Arnold didn't attend his fathers either. But my prayers are with him.

Inna-lillahai-wa-inna (when a death message is recived_)

If you look at the special features on pumping iron you will see him talk about that, he got that line from another guy and used it in the film but he did go see his father. He said he made up alot of stuff in the movie to give it character.

**SMAN12b** · 09-10-2006, 11:09 AM

no one knows his circumstances, and no one here has the right to judge anyone. there is only ONE that can judge,and we certainly are not that ONE>

I wish him and his family well! A parent is the most difficult to lose!

**305GUY** · 09-10-2006, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

That's my point! Who the hell are you to judge? You don't know his family situation and have no clue what's involved the last weeks of contest prep an Olympia. So get off your moral high horse. It was an extremely hard decision for him to make and I have NO RIGHT to judge him for it. I will support him.

WTF is wrong with you!?!

i stated MY OPINION... ie If my mother dies NO MATTER WhAT EVER previous problem we had i would be MATURE enough to attend her GOD DAMN FUNERAL!!!! for god sakes shes DEAD and is about to be buried 6 feet underground, and the only reason he is even on this plant is because of HER.. ITS ABOUT RESPEcT!!!!!!! you must have some serious family issues!

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

WTF is wrong with you!? i stated MY OPINION... ie If my mother dies NO MATTER WhAT EVER previous problem we had i would be MATURE enough to attend her GOD DAMN FUNERAL!!!! for god sakes shes DEAD and is about to be buried 6 feet underground, and the only reason he is even on this plant is because of HER.. ITS ABOUT RESPEcT!!!!!!! you must have some serious family issues!

You tell em'

my mom is donating her body to science when she dies and that will help me deal with that shit when the day comes. Moms is everything

Why is everyone attacking him for stating his opininon, he wasn't a dick about it

Wtf has been happening lately with everyone bickering and shit lately, it's getting to be like alot of sites I no longer visit. We need more Johans around

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 09-10-2006, 11:22 AM

every situation is different & there really is no right or wrong. perosnally, I would have been there without a doubt, unless I was dead myself. I agree with both carlos & 305guy, it really depends on the situation, but for mom....i woud be there. I hope that victor doesnt regret NOT being there later in life.

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

no one knows his circumstances, and no one here has the right to judge anyone. there is only ONE that can judge,and we certainly are not that ONE>

Thanks SMAN.

**pepperoni** · 09-10-2006, 11:31 AM

of course nobody here knows his personal situation, all anyone can do is just state an opinion, which is what 305 did. Nothing wrong with that, maybe it could have been worded better but you can't jump on him for stating an opinion. disagree by all means but you don't have to do it with such hostility.

I wish him and his family all the best, hopefully it wont hinder is Olympia performance.

**zipzz** · 09-10-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

no one knows his circumstances, and no one here has the right to judge anyone. there is only ONE that can judge,and we certainly are not that ONE>

I wish him and his family well! A parent is the most difficult to lose!

I disagree and that is complete crap. Everyone on this board judges people all the time. Carlos and Sman I think I can find thousands of posts of you guys judging other members. Even if you say something positive like "great calves dude" Isn't that judging somebody's image.

It is human nature to judge people anyways.

Bodybuilding and judging is like peanut butter with jelly.

Carlos you had to make sure you informed everybody that Victor's mother died and I just hope that you had his permission to do that. If one of my friends told random people on a message board that my family members died I would be furious.

**Hackamaniac** · 09-10-2006, 11:40 AM

U just got here this month...So you probably don't know much about this board..

**Kärnfysikern** · 09-10-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by goodcents

You tell em' my mom is donating her body to science when she dies and that will help me deal with that shit when the day comes. Moms is everything

Why is everyone attacking him for stating his opininon, he wasn't a dick about it

Wtf has been happening lately with everyone bickering and shit lately, it's getting to be like alot of sites I no longer visit. We need more Johans around

That would make this a boring board

I have to say I agree with 305 that I would attend the funeral no matter what. I didnt fully realise my mom was dead before I saw her in the coffin. I think its hard to get the same kind of closure without that.

But Im not judging Vic in anyway. I just hope he wont regret it later on. It would only be selfish if he had other family members that needs his support during this time.

**Kärnfysikern** · 09-10-2006, 11:48 AM

btw everyone chill. This isnt the kind of thread that people should bicker in.

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by johan

btw everyone chill. This isnt the kind of thread that people should bicker in.

You tell em', I knew it would be alright when Johan got here

Johan gets shlt done with respect and class, not fear. Hell if I ever got banned by Johan, at least I would respect him and just know I did something to deserve it

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 11:55 AM

Sorry guys, just got a little worked up there

SVTMuscle* · 09-10-2006, 12:01 PM

Sorry to hear about that, but its good dedication he has there.

**305GUY** · 09-10-2006, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by johan

I think its hard to get the same kind of closure without that.

EXACTLY.. thats pretty much exactly what i was getting it.. No matter what the circumstances may be, you attend the funeral, say your good byes and life goes on... you DONT attend the funeral and you will always have that in the back of your miind..

Originally Posted by johan

btw everyone chill. This isnt the kind of thread that people should bicker in.

i agree 10000% i was just stating my opinion and next thing i know im judging someone ??

... im the first to say "only god can judge me".. and almost got that tatooed on my back.... everyone has opinions and thats it

carlos i still wuv u!

**SMAN12b** · 09-10-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by zipzz

I disagree and that is complete crap. Everyone on this board judges people all the time. Carlos and Sman I think I can find thousands of posts of you guys judging other members. Even if you say something positive like "great calves dude" Isn't that judging somebody's image.

It is human nature to judge people anyways.

Bodybuilding and judging is like peanut butter with jelly.

Carlos you had to make sure you informed everybody that Victor's mother died and I just hope that you had his permission to do that. If one of my friends told random people on a message board that my family members died I would be furious.

Since you are new, I will try not to trash you too much here.

We make judgements YES, but ONLY when we are asked for our opinions on this board. members come here and ASK for our experience and advice which includes making evaluations on cycles, diets, workouts, and such.

Carlos did NOT start this thread requesting anyone's advice on whether it was right or wrong for Victor to attend or not attend a funeral.
Victor is well known by many, and a close friend to Carlos therefore he was just letting his friends know that a close friend was dealing with a lose and that is all.

I for one am glad Carlos made the thread as I did not know about this but am certainly touched by the event of Victor losing his mother.

He and his family will be in my prayers!!

**audis4** · 09-10-2006, 12:22 PM

poor guy....I couldn't imagine losing one of my parents!

**SMAN12b** · 09-10-2006, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by zipzz

Sman just because you are touched, it doesn't mean Victor wanted you to know that his mom has died. I consider this thread gossip since I didn't hear it from Victor.

Carlos made this public information but then thought 305guy shouldn't judge since he doesn't know Victor's situation. That is ridiculous

Most deaths are a matter of public record since you will find them listed in most newspapers daily. Therefore it is NO secret

Carlos knows victor personally, and got the information first hand, therefore NO GOSSIP

zipzz, why do you feel the need to be so argumentative about this?
If you dont' have anything supportive to add, please start a seperate thread if you feel the need to flame us.

thanks

**spencer** · 09-10-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by goodcents

aaahhhh, sorry, just beating someone to it

you guys are always good for a laugh

whats one day gonna hurt in his life. to see his mother off for the last time, but he'd rather lift weights or whatever. needs a reality check imo

**guest589745** · 09-10-2006, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Victor Martinez mother passed away this past Tuesday.

He was REALLY messed up for a few days but he still lifted and did cardio. He decided not to return to the Dominican Republic to attend the funeral because he is a couple of weeks out from the Olympia.

I don't know if I would have made the same decision. But he is a pro and competing is his profession. I hope it does not effect his performance at the Olympia. My prays are with him and his family.

Sounds like the story arnold made up in pumping iron.

If its true though, that sucks. That would be hard to continue.

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Sounds like the story arnold made up in pumping iron.
If its true though, that sucks. That would be hard to continue.

Does anyone read my posts

I just answered that one

**Kärnfysikern** · 09-10-2006, 12:59 PM

carlos I hope you dont mind but I deleted some more posts.

Now Il say this once again. NO BICKERING IN THIS THREAD. Listen or get warned. Drop the bullshit.

**guest589745** · 09-10-2006, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by goodcents

Does anyone read my posts

I just answered that one

No.

**chest6** · 09-10-2006, 01:07 PM

ah man...i hit page 2 to be returned to page one

That is some very sad news. Very surprising he wouldn't attend the funeral..but thats his choice

**guest589745** · 09-10-2006, 01:09 PM

Is this victor the same one that posts here? Sorry, Ive never heard of a pro "victor martinez".

**Carlos_E** · 09-10-2006, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by johan

carlos I hope you dont mind but I deleted some more posts.

Now Il say this once again. NO BICKERING IN THIS THREAD. Listen or get warned. Drop the bullshit.

Thank you,. I was about to do the same thing. You beat me to it.

**goodcents** · 09-10-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

No.

You just did

(is it just because I add nothing important

)

**zipzz** · 09-10-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Is this victor the same one that posts here? Sorry, Ive never heard of a pro "victor martinez".

He doesn't post here but we still talk about him

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