Advice On Army!

[Superhuman]

Hey brothers (and sisters)... due to many things that are going on in my life I have decided that it would be a wise decision to join the Army and finish my last 3 years of school while i'm in. I have picked a few jobs that I'm interested in and I'd like to know if any of you have any additional information or experience with them. I will list them and then list the duties required below each. Thanks!

Special Forces Weapons Sergeant:
Going behind enemy lines to recruit, train and equip friendly forces for guerrilla raids
Clearing mine fields, both underwater and on land
Carrying out demolition raids against enemy military targets
Employing warfare tactics and techniques in infantry operations
Conducting offensive raids or invasions of enemy territories
Maintaining proficiency with all foreign high-density light and heavy weapons
Evaluating terrain
Selecting weapons placements and sites
Assigning targets and areas of fire
Reading, interpreting and preparing combat orders

Intelligence Analyst
Preparing all-source intelligence products to support the combat commander
Assisting in establishing and maintaining systematic, cross-referenced intelligence records and files
Receiving and processing incoming reports and messages
Assisting in determining the significance and reliability of incoming information
Assisting in the analysis and evaluation of intelligence holdings to determine changes in enemy capabilities, vulnerabilities and probable courses of action
Assembling and proofreading intelligence reports and assisting in consolidating them into Army intelligence
Storing and retrieve intelligence data using computers

Criminal Investigations Special Agent
Investigating criminal activities and activities related to espionage, treason and terrorism
Interviewing witnesses and questioning suspects, sometimes using polygraph machines (lie detectors)
Investigating serious crime
Conducting sensitive/serious investigations
Collecting, Analyzing, and Disseminating criminal intelligence
Conducting protective service operations
Providing forensic laboratory support
Maintaining army criminal records

[bazerk]

I can only suggest finishing school before, it is my understanding that you will rank higher with a degree, e.g. with a bachelors degree you will be a Specialist as apposed to a Private with no degree.

[goodcents]

Hey brothers (and sisters)... due to many things that are going on in my life I have decided that it would be a wise decision to join the Army and finish my last 3 years of school while i'm in. I have picked a few jobs that I'm interested in and I'd like to know if any of you have any additional information or experience with them. I will list them and then list the duties required below each. Thanks!

Special Forces Weapons Sergeant:
Going behind enemy lines to recruit, train and equip friendly forces for guerrilla raids
Clearing mine fields, both underwater and on land
Carrying out demolition raids against enemy military targets
Employing warfare tactics and techniques in infantry operations
Conducting offensive raids or invasions of enemy territories
Maintaining proficiency with all foreign high-density light and heavy weapons
Evaluating terrain
Selecting weapons placements and sites
Assigning targets and areas of fire
Reading, interpreting and preparing combat orders

Intelligence Analyst
Preparing all-source intelligence products to support the combat commander
Assisting in establishing and maintaining systematic, cross-referenced intelligence records and files
Receiving and processing incoming reports and messages
Assisting in determining the significance and reliability of incoming information
Assisting in the analysis and evaluation of intelligence holdings to determine changes in enemy capabilities, vulnerabilities and probable courses of action
Assembling and proofreading intelligence reports and assisting in consolidating them into Army intelligence
Storing and retrieve intelligence data using computers

Criminal Investigations Special Agent
Investigating criminal activities and activities related to espionage, treason and terrorism
Interviewing witnesses and questioning suspects, sometimes using polygraph machines (lie detectors)
Investigating serious crime
Conducting sensitive/serious investigations
Collecting, Analyzing, and Disseminating criminal intelligence
Conducting protective service operations
Providing forensic laboratory support
Maintaining army criminal records

Do you know how long that takes to get that rank and position? I don't think you will like the army, it's not a job, it's a way of life.

[zodiac666]

Do you know how long that takes to get that rank and position? I don't think you will like the army, it's not a job, it's a way of life.

good advice here.

trust me, it really doesnt make much difference what job you choose. when you are in the army you will constantly say "why the fvck did i do this?" and count down the years/days until you get out. when that time comes you may have adapted to the life and decide to stay in.

i did 3years and im definitely glad i did, although the entire 3years i couldnt wait to get the fvck out. i am in a much better place now than i was before i joined. ive been to iraq and afghanistan, met some great guys that i will stay in touch with my whole life, and have no regrets about joining. its your call, just expect to get treated like shit for a couple years, and dont believe most of what your recruiter says. whether you're an intelligence analyst or a cook you will probably be pulling 8-12hour guard shifts on your first deployment.

[paulzane]

Those positions should not be available to someone joining up! They are positions that would be recruited from within the army. To get to be in the special forces you will be recruited from within the ranks of the army and be, at the worst, in the top 10% of those guys.

CISA would be recruited from within the ranks of the Military Police so you would have to join that branch of the Forces first.

Imagery analyst you could possibly join into and work your way up but there is a lot of on the job training to do.

Good luck in your application

[breacherup]

Those positions should not be available to someone joining up! They are positions that would be recruited from within the army. To get to be in the special forces you will be recruited from within the ranks of the army and be, at the worst, in the top 10% of those guys.

CISA would be recruited from within the ranks of the Military Police so you would have to join that branch of the Forces first.

Imagery analyst you could possibly join into and work your way up but there is a lot of on the job training to do.

Good luck in your application

The US Army currently has a program that allows new recruits the opportunity to try out for Special Forces, it is called 18X. This program takes at least two years to complete, it begins with the one unit station training Basic and Infantry school and Airborne School at Ft. Benning Ga., from there the recruit moves over to Ft. Bragg for Special Forces selection and assessment. If you make it through this training, language school and SERE are next. Good Luck!

[Superhuman]

hmm, thanks for the info so far. just so u know, the reason i would be going in Enlisted is because I have a DUI trial coming up and there is the potential for the judge/prosecutor to drop the charges if I join the military - and I've been thinking of going in anyway. I scored very high on my ASVAB so I should be able to get any job I want... I was told that I can have the recruiter sign a contract guaranteeing me a specific position, is that true?

[Phreak101]

It sounds like you are glorifying the idea of the Army a bit IMO. Not to be a dick, but why would you want to go from being a free, young, guy doing AAS and banging lots of girls to humping over deserts, fighting, dealing with drills, sleeping in foxholes, etc.

Think long and hard about your decision bro, in this day and age it's not just about doing 4 years and then sitting on your ass as a reservist while you collect your college money....

[Doc.Sust]

I can only suggest finishing school before, it is my understanding that you will rank higher with a degree, e.g. with a bachelors degree you will be a Specialist as apposed to a Private with no degree.

yes i agree,

[zodiac666]

hmm, thanks for the info so far. just so u know, the reason i would be going in Enlisted is because I have a DUI trial coming up and there is the potential for the judge/prosecutor to drop the charges if I join the military - and I've been thinking of going in anyway. I scored very high on my ASVAB so I should be able to get any job I want... I was told that I can have the recruiter sign a contract guaranteeing me a specific position, is that true?

if you decide to join you will go to MEPS to get a physical and to sign your final contract of what your MOS (job) will be. so yea, once you sign your contract you will be guarenteed that MOS, but no matter what your job is you will get stuck on plenty of shit details until you make some rank and then you'll just be in charge of delegating who gets stuck on the shit details.

dont just join because of your DUI thing, make sure you have some other reasons. if i had to choose between 6months in jail or 3 more years in the army i would choose jail in a heartbeat.

[Doc.Sust]

It sounds like you are glorifying the idea of the Army a bit IMO. Not to be a dick, but why would you want to go from being a free, young, guy doing AAS and banging lots of girls to humping over deserts, fighting, dealing with drills, sleeping in foxholes, etc.

Think long and hard about your decision bro, in this day and age it's not just about doing 4 years and then sitting on your ass as a reservist while you collect your college money....

i have to agree, you give up alot of your life whn going to the army, and you may end up litteraly giving your life to the army? is it worth it to try to help you out of a dui? i know what my answer is to that, life is short, live it to its fullest, the country right now is in a war, if you inlist you have a pretty dam good chance of getting thrown in that mess. is that what you really want?

[perfectbeast2001]

Will you go to jail for a DUI? Here it is just loss of licence!!

[l2elapse]

if it is his first dui he will probably jsut get license suspended. It is usually the 3rd dui you go to jail

[hungry4fitness]

Sorry bro, been there done that and maybe if you were 18 and fresh out of high school I could suggest it. But man if you had any smarts to ya, stay out!!!! It was good for a young kid like me at the time for the discipline side of it (and the partying) but life is really not that fun in the military when it comes down to the dickheads that you take orders from. Also if you think you are gonna join and just become special forces or something cool like that, no way in hell will that happen unless you have a whole lot of schooling behind you. You can be as big and as tuff as you want, they will only take the people that have either been in for awhile or the people with the best education. Although the recruiters will definately tell you different, they are like car saleman.

[hungry4fitness]

Also, not true on the recruiter signing a piece of paper saying you can have any job you want. DON'T ever believe that, ASVAB score or not. You are nothing but another body with a gun to them. I was promised alot of things and it only happened after years of putting up with their crap.

[Superhuman]

I had no idea that I would get stuck on sh*t detail until I made rank. I thought that once I got through Boot Camp they would send me to do whatever job specific training I need for the job I chose (i.e. Intelligence Analyst). I don't mind going to Iraq or Afghanistan, but I definitely would not want to die for a sh*tty cause like is "war".

I was concerned about my bodybuilding and that I might lose a lot of weight, but I met one quasi-bber who served in Iraq and he said they had a gym and a grocery store on base where he could get tuna, chicken, etc. Ideally I would get a job on base here in the U.S. This girl I've been "talkin to" is in the marines here in GA and she works like 3 days on 2 days off and she just signed up this year. She has plenty of free time and all she has to do for her job is patrol the base and make sure nobody comes in unauthorized. Is there anyway I could secure a post here in the U.S.?

For those who mentioned it, this DUI is not the only reason I would join... I've been thinking about it since I was like 6 years old. I also want to be a politician so it would be great to have military service on my resume. In Georgia, the punishment for a DUI (since I'm 19) would be a 1-year license suspension, 1-year probation, and community service. IN ADDITION, a DUI is on your record for LIFE and it would not help me with my career in the future!

I was thinking that if I couldn't actually go to a University physically while I'm in that I could possibly do the online classes. Does anybody have any experience with that? If you get your degree online from, say, UGA, does it say it was online or do you actually get a Bachelors Degree in <insert major> from UGA?

[CSAR]

Dude, let me speak from 4 years of military experience (including SAR, SERE, jump school, etc.). It doesn't matter what it says on your contract about training/schools, 'cause new guys always get the shit details.

Mess Hall SGT: "Hey Top, we need a guy for KP!"
First SGT: "Oh yeah? Well, I'll send over PVT Superhuman. Keep him as long as you need him."
PVT Superhuman: "But 1st Sergeant, I just pulled a 12 hour duty shift."
First SGT: "STFU PVT and kiss my hairy beanbag. Your cherry ass is on KP duty AND you're gonna be on watch as well. See ya later sweetheart, I gotta go stroke my mule. Heh heh heh."

Get the picture? Your Latino Marine girl gets CONUS duty 'cause she's a woman. No offense to any women, but it's the reality. Your ass is going to Iraq or Afghanistan if you join, where you'll probably have latrine duty after an all night patrol.

And these aren't even the worst things that could happen to you. Dude, the military is best for young guys just out of high school with no other opportunities in life. Stay in college, get your degree, and remain a free person.

I joined the Navy after graduating from university and I spent the first 2 1/2 years going "What the **** did I do that for?" and the last 1 1/2 going through spinal surgery, physical therapy, and figuring out how to walk again. You don't even want to know how I was treated during those 18 months. I was supposed to get 2 weeks of sick leave after my surgery - they gave me 3 days. I had to call one of my state senators to stop those idiots.

Oh, and the guys who thought they could finish their degrees while they were in? Never happened. That shit is for lifers who've made rank. They will put your ass on shitty details just so they can punch out at 3pm and go take their online courses. Sorry, one more thing. This is coming from my experience in getting my Ph.D. - a few online courses aren't bad, but an online degree is often looked down upon.

Don't just say no...say, **** NO!

[ginkobulloba]

Wow. You are getting some stellar advice here and I hope for your sake you listen up.

Really, I should not be trying to talk you out of joining the Army. You see, late in 2001 I joined up for what was supposed to be a 3 yr enlistment. What you may not realize at this point is that when you enlist, it is for 8 YEARS. Yes, EIGHT YEARS. So, until late 2009, my name is on a list called the IRR. If too many people die or not enough people join up and troop numbers in Iraq or wherever else do not go down, it is this list the Sec. of Defense pulls bodies from. So now you understand why it is not in my best interest to try and paint an accurate picture of Army life for you.

But, since selfless service is one of the Army values, I'm still going to try and beat some sense into you.

For fcks sake. Do not listen to some tore up Marine chica who inspects ID badges. She is a chick. Military life for her is in no way going to reflect anything you will go through if you decide to embark on this adventure. Nothing against women in the military, but it's a fact of life. So disregard everything she says that doesn't involve laying her, but be sure to wrap it up if you get that far. There are two kinds of chicks who join the military, generally speaking, sluts and dykes.

Ok, where were we, oh yeah, college. Forget that dream dude. No time for that shit. I pulled off taking something like 3 courses in the three years I was in. That's because I was forwardly deployed on the DMZ in Korea and I couldn't leave the shitty little base I called home. Want to know how many girls lived on base? Not a single one. Bring lots of porn with you if you ever go there. It'll be a long fcking year. Hope you like sausage parties.

I guess if I could sum up my 3.5 years in the Army in just two words, it would be that. Sausage party.

Ok, enough of that, I think you get the point. Let's talk about your job choices.

Special Forces: I am aware of a new recruiting campaign that can in effect, take you from a civilian to a SF soldier in like two years. I'm sure you are aware that the odds are stacked against you in achieving that MOS. But, since you're a bodybuilder or whatever, you should already have a strong advantage in making it. If you beat the odds and make it, you can kiss your plan of 4 and out goodbye. When you go SF, you are in for a minimum of six years. They don't train the shit out of you and let you go after putting in just one or two years of field time. Cool job if you can make it. You'll be a part of a different Army where 90% of the rest cannot tell you what to do. You can tell a command sergeant major to take a hike and get out of your face. That may feel nice, but not as nice as pussy I can tell you that much.

Intelligence Analyst. Sounds like some high adventure stuff. James Bond shit, working with intelligent people who are the brains behind the brawn. As the low man on the totem pole you can be assured that your adventure will include processing security clearances, pulling CQ (24 hr duty that includes a lot of buffing floors), shredding paper, making copies, surfing the internet, being called a lot of names by real soldiers, working with book worm geeks who haven't gotten laid in their 24 years of breathing and contemplating suicide. Next!

CID Agent. Hmmm, this sounds interesting. If you luck out you could be a plain clothes soldier, investigating some private who stole a gas mask from his section leader. Maybe you'll bust some joe who's selling pot from the barracks. Could be fun actually. Only thing, with a DUI offence under your belt (waived or not) you may have a hard time getting any job that requires a security clearance.

Seriously dude, remove head from ass. You've watched the news at least once in the last few years I am sure. We are in a fcked up war and no end is in sight, at least not near term. You say you don't want to go to war. Let me tell you who the Army needs to be recruiting...motherfckers who do NOT GIVE A FVCK. Guys who want to shoot things, blow shit up, destroy buildings and crap. If you're not one of those guys, then you should not even be considering a combat arms MOS. Special Forces? Dude, you have to accept that no matter what job you pick you stand a virtual 100% certainly of getting your ass deployed someplace where bad people want to kill you.

Maybe it sounds like I'm being too harsh, but that's what you need right now. A lot of other people have given you some great advice as well. Up to you what you do with it.

[Superhuman]

Wow Ginko and CSAR thanks alot... I didn't know about all of that. Right now, my only choice seems to be to either take the DUI or join the military. For what I want to do with my future I cannot afford to have a DUI on my record so I don't know what to do..

Now if I went for CID Agent do you really think they would be able to see that I had dropped charges on a DUI, and if so would that really make a difference?

[ginkobulloba]

Yes, definitely having any kind of a criminal offence on your record could potentially fck up your chances of being a CID agent.

[DNoMac]

Do you have to go active duty? If you can, join the guard/reserve. Most likely you'll still get deployed a few times, but you will have a MUCH better chance of going to school. Plus they pay for your tuition. If that isn't an option, I would choose a branch other than the army. Air Force has a much higher standard of living than the army. Most of the jobs are pretty boring, but it's better than being a grunt.

[Superhuman]

hmm, that's an interesting thought... I would rather go reserves or guard, preferrably guard because they have the SF Pipeline. I'm not sure if the prosecutor/judge would drop the charges unless I go active duty - I haven't really looked into it.

Either way I learned my f*cking lesson and I won't EVER do it again and it was a year ago so they should just drop it! I didn't hurt anybody and I wasn't even drunk... it's my word against the officer's basically because conveniently I was the only arrest of the night that the cop DIDN'T have a tape of - and the tape would have shown that I'm innocent AND that I requested a Blood Test which I DID NOT get. This whole situation is f*cked.... and to think I got pulled over for an expired tag. Sorry for the rant, I'm pissed though!

[Carlos_E]

Hey brothers (and sisters)... due to many things that are going on in my life I have decided that it would be a wise decision to join the Army and finish my last 3 years of school while i'm in. I have picked a few jobs that I'm interested in and I'd like to know if any of you have any additional information or experience with them. I will list them and then list the duties required below each. Thanks!

Special Forces Weapons Sergeant:
Going behind enemy lines to recruit, train and equip friendly forces for guerrilla raids
Clearing mine fields, both underwater and on land
Carrying out demolition raids against enemy military targets
Employing warfare tactics and techniques in infantry operations
Conducting offensive raids or invasions of enemy territories
Maintaining proficiency with all foreign high-density light and heavy weapons
Evaluating terrain
Selecting weapons placements and sites
Assigning targets and areas of fire
Reading, interpreting and preparing combat orders

Intelligence Analyst
Preparing all-source intelligence products to support the combat commander
Assisting in establishing and maintaining systematic, cross-referenced intelligence records and files
Receiving and processing incoming reports and messages
Assisting in determining the significance and reliability of incoming information
Assisting in the analysis and evaluation of intelligence holdings to determine changes in enemy capabilities, vulnerabilities and probable courses of action
Assembling and proofreading intelligence reports and assisting in consolidating them into Army intelligence
Storing and retrieve intelligence data using computers

Criminal Investigations Special Agent
Investigating criminal activities and activities related to espionage, treason and terrorism
Interviewing witnesses and questioning suspects, sometimes using polygraph machines (lie detectors)
Investigating serious crime
Conducting sensitive/serious investigations
Collecting, Analyzing, and Disseminating criminal intelligence
Conducting protective service operations
Providing forensic laboratory support
Maintaining army criminal records

"Don't ask, don't tell" or they might kick you out!

[spywizard]

Wow Ginko and CSAR thanks alot... I didn't know about all of that. Right now, my only choice seems to be to either take the DUI or join the military. For what I want to do with my future I cannot afford to have a DUI on my record so I don't know what to do..

Now if I went for CID Agent do you really think they would be able to see that I had dropped charges on a DUI, and if so would that really make a difference?

well bro, let me chime in here.. since i was in the AF 10 years, and worked as a cop/OSI (office of Special Investigations) and 4 years comuter ops..

I had a Top Secret SBI clearance....

dude, they sent agents in back to my home town and interviewed my highschool, and jr highschool teachers, people from my church, and my employers..

Not sure you will get the job you are looking for..

[Superhuman]

well bro, let me chime in here.. since i was in the AF 10 years, and worked as a cop/OSI (office of Special Investigations) and 4 years comuter ops..

I had a Top Secret SBI clearance....

dude, they sent agents in back to my home town and interviewed my highschool, and jr highschool teachers, people from my church, and my employers..

Not sure you will get the job you are looking for..

oh wow that's crazy! For the most part I was a good kid, and all my teachers would say I'm like a genius. As long as they didn't talk to kids I went to school with I think I would be okay

Do you think the Air Force would be a better way to go, and to just do what you did? That sounds pretty interesting. Ultimately I want to work with the CIA and then work my way into politics, so perhaps that would be a wise decision.

[spywizard]

except they would have access to the DUI charge.. even if it were a sealed record, they'd know..

just my experience

[Superhuman]

except they would have access to the DUI charge.. even if it were a sealed record, they'd know..

just my experience

now it's just a charge though, which has NOTHING at all to do with guil... hell the wrong people get charged with sh*t every day. Would they see that and assume I was guilty, even though the court didn't find me guilty?

[goodcents]

now it's just a charge though, which has NOTHING at all to do with guil... hell the wrong people get charged with sh*t every day. Would they see that and assume I was guilty, even though the court didn't find me guilty?

It's the army, you have no rights. You are guilty till proved innocent You have no right to remain silent Best advice, fight the dui and stay the fuk out of the army, you will hate every last second of it Btw my cousin serve on the dmz of korea for a year too

[C_Bino]

All I can say is say goodbye to bodybuilding................................

But I live for this and not everyone does so its just my small opinion.

[paulzane]

Get a good lawyer and fight the DUI. Joining the army now is like a death sentance! Don't forget that the average age of a combat soldier,in a bodybag,in Vietnam was 19.

[CSAR]

Get a good lawyer and fight the DUI.

Exactly! Fight it. It's been a year since this happened and they still haven't moved to trial? WTF?

Oh, and I got into a little trouble when I was young...went joyriding with some friends in a stolen car. We all got charged with felonies. All but one of us, including me, had the charges dropped, 'cause most of us didn't know it was stolen. I was told this wouldn't be on record, but guess what? This incident still came up on my background check - didn't matter 'cause I still got SECRET clearance. Fight the charge man!!

[Superhuman]

I did hire a very good lawyer (very expensive, too), but he says the best-case scenario at this point is to plead guilty to a reckless driving - but even that is not guaranteed. We filed a motion to supress the breath test but it was denied. It is VERY hard to fight a DUI in Atlanta, and even moreso if you are under 21 like me. The only way it seems for be to "win" would be to join the military

[taiboxa]

just my 2 cents.. and alot more .. since i been there done that.. sa far as all military krap...

dont go active if ur in it for school go reserve/guard
airforce is alot easier i assure u in some instances and most of the tech schoolin u go through is more applicable to civi life.

dont be an R-Tard stay awawy from the military!

[Mobligator]

Get a good lawyer and fight the DUI. Joining the army now is like a death sentance! Don't forget that the average age of a combat soldier,in a bodybag,in Vietnam was 19.

I'll second that! And if you have to join anything, (other than the Boy Scouts), join the Navy and ride the Waves. I did! Four of the best years of my life.

[zodiac666]

I'll second that! And if you have to join anything, (other than the Boy Scouts), join the Navy and ride the Waves. I did! Four of the best years of my life.

Mountains of WV baby!!!

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[DNoMac]

except they would have access to the DUI charge.. even if it were a sealed record, they'd know..

just my experience

Yea, but didn't Bush get a DUI in 84' (among other things)? Granted your father probably isn't a former president/director of CIA/ect/ect

[NightTrain]

superhuman......... well i really am torn on this topic, as most of you know i am in the ARMY and have been for 16 yrs. so i can tell you alot of the things most people here have told you are true. as a PVT new in the unit you will do alot of shit details, but everyone does them. its just a detail that needs to be done and you are a low ranking person. just like a regular job, the new guy with no time on the job gets all the BS jobs. now the Army has some real shitty details but it is just a detail, its not your entire job. i have been a bradley mechanic my entire 16 years, and i have done some shitty details but i have to admit it is by far the easiest job i have ever had. the deployments to war really freaking suck ass, i have been to Bosnia twice and to Iraq twice, it sucks. if you really feel you have to join the service to get over this DUI thing then why not try out the air force? those guys live 150% better then us ARmy guys, and they have better looking women, and if you do get deployed it will only be for 4-6 months, not like us Army guys who do 1yr tours in this freaking shit hole of a country.......

dude, the service is not a bad thing, it has some bad details and right now we are at war, but i love my country and i am willing to do what i have to do in order to ensure my kids have a good free country to grow up in. my advice is give it some serious thought and check out the Air force.......

[CSAR]

Superhuman, if you're really intent on joining the military, then talk to an officer recruiter. There are programs that will pay for college and then you'll have to serve for x number of years (ROTC for example). Depending on your age and academic record, you might even be able to attend one of the service academies. If at all possible, see if you can cut a deal to join after you graduate from college and get your commission via OCS.

If you go in as enlisted, you're gonna get some shit details, maybe not all the time, but possibly enough to sour your enlistment. If I had to do over again, I would've joined the AF - when they build a new base, they put in all the creature comforts and after they run out of money, they tell Congress "Hey, we forgot to build the damn runway!" They really treat their people better than any of the other branches. Don't join the Navy or Marines. I was a navy medic (HM) attached to a marine unit based in Bahrain. We were the shit, but life was shitty. Plus, the highest percentage of overweight knuckleheads has got to be in the Navy. Go AF or Army if you do.

[ginkobulloba]

Fck yeah man, if I'd have done things differently I'd have joined the Air Force. I chose the Army and I'd be lying if I said I didn't regret that choice. Much higher quality tail in the AF. At the end of the day, that's what it's all about anyway. Just my opinion.

[zodiac666]

also like someone said earlier, take a look at the guard or reserves. one weekend a month and 2weeks a year, unless you get deployed, which you probably will, then you come back to your regular life with an extra 20-30grand in your bank account. i was with the 504th which is a great unit, always ready for anything, but i have to say my life sucked worse at Ft. Bragg than it did being deployed. im actually considering going back in as national guard.

also i have always heard that the air force is much easier and much more comfortable. they do have a lot more hot girls too, i was just never around them enough to try anything.