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    Talking Just shot with the 18G cannon

    Not sure why, but 25G is just too damn small for me these days. Part of the problem is my reach has shortened (a good thing tho ) and so the angles have become more extreme meaning I really have to press the plunger hard in an awkward position sometimes resulting in a cramp.

    Everyone is always talking about how a higher gauge needle makes less impact and thus less scare tissue and pain. I got to thinking tho: a small needle means high oil velocity upon exiting (bernoullius principle i think), which might be the source of much pain (kinda like water blasting pavement). Also a larger needle means less "exposure" time in the muscle, and less force required on the plunger which could solve the muscle cramp problem.

    I decided today that, what the hell I will shoot with 18G. Overall it worked great, i think the best would be a compromise of my 21, 22, or maybe 23G tho, since 18G entry is rather difficult.

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    yeah the only reason 18G sucks (i've had to do it a few times) is because you can definitely feel it going in

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    LOL i myself have used a 18g out of shear desperation at times ( Pins didnt arive on time)... And just the look of an 18 g harpoon makes me leary ... all though it did hurt none the less .. but i prefer 22-23 gauge and 25 for delts bi and tri

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    18g is nuts.

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    Yeah, bernoullius principle. That's why "pressure washers" are a big fat lie. Smaller the diameter of pipe, (given a constant output) the lower the pressure but higher the velocity. (Taken from the equation Pressure = Force x Area).

    Damn, I know some rubbish....

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    I took my first shot 18 in the shoulder

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    id have to pass on a 18g......21 biggest i use...

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    but everything i shot up came squirting back out like a super soaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBT
    Yeah, bernoullius principle. That's why "pressure washers" are a big fat lie. Smaller the diameter of pipe, (given a constant output) the lower the pressure but higher the velocity. (Taken from the equation Pressure = Force x Area).

    Damn, I know some rubbish....
    You sounded very intelligent untill you said the word "rubbish."






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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    Not sure why, but 25G is just too damn small for me these days. Part of the problem is my reach has shortened (a good thing tho ) and so the angles have become more extreme meaning I really have to press the plunger hard in an awkward position sometimes resulting in a cramp.

    Everyone is always talking about how a higher gauge needle makes less impact and thus less scare tissue and pain. I got to thinking tho: a small needle means high oil velocity upon exiting (bernoullius principle i think), which might be the source of much pain (kinda like water blasting pavement). Also a larger needle means less "exposure" time in the muscle, and less force required on the plunger which could solve the muscle cramp problem.

    I decided today that, what the hell I will shoot with 18G. Overall it worked great, i think the best would be a compromise of my 21, 22, or maybe 23G tho, since 18G entry is rather difficult.
    im sorry i was too busy looking at this pic to read all that

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    i've used an 18g.. when i was a noob.. and only the one time.. but your reasoning is logical
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