Infection,...how to avoid it.

[LatinoPR]

Hy guy,..lately call my atencion that some members are complaining about infection after injections,one guy has to go to an E /R and have surgery on his leg.Some have infection even using human grade gear that have an extensive quality control.
The most important step on injection is washing you hands,is that simple,i know many ppl skiping this important step.
So wash your hands FIRST...and use proper aseptic technics.....hope this help.






LPR.

[Phreak101]

Um....thanks....

[perfectbeast2001]

I ususally just wipe my hands on an oily rag.

[Phreak101]

I ususally just wipe my hands on an oily rag.

I aim my junk towards my injection site and urinate to cleanse. That can get complicated when I do ass injections...

[FranKieC]

Why Flame him? He is a dermatologist just trying to help

[Phreak101]

Why Flame him? He is a dermatologist just trying to help

Not flaming, but what he is telling us is the equivalent of saying "Make sure your transmission is on D before pushing the pedal to go forward"

And why in the lounge of all places?

[Snrf]

i asked this the other day and got no response, whats that stuff surgeons use to scrub an area b4 surgery that kills like a million times more bacteria and skin flora than alcohol swabs?

[Phreak101]

i asked this the other day and got no response, whats that stuff surgeons use to scrub an area b4 surgery that kills like a million times more bacteria and skin flora than alcohol swabs?

Antiseptic of somekind, probably a Hydrogen Perxoide solution of some sort.

Alcohol works just fine

[FranKieC]

And why in the lounge of all places?

This I can agree with..Other than that I think there are members on this board that simply forget that lol

[Phreak101]

This I can agree with..Other than that I think there are members on this board that simply forget that lol

Well then they should not be driving or using AAS!

[FranKieC]

Well then they should not be driving or using AAS!

[LatinoPR]

Antiseptic of somekind, probably a Hydrogen Perxoide solution of some sort.

Alcohol works just fine

NO...it's not Hydrogen Peroxide.,,it is Povidone Iodine USP 10% and is an Antiseptic that we use for preparation of the skin for surgery,you don't have a surgery,you just have an intramuscular injection that with the correct use of alcohol and a good aniseptics technics should be enough,including washing your hands FIRST !!!....Hydrogen Peroxide is not an Antiseptic......btw dont use it as alcohol......







LPR...dermatology.

[zodiac666]

good info for me, i have actually never washed my hands before a shot. i mean i wipe the rubber stopper with alcohol, wipe the needle after i draw the oil, and of course the skin, but i never even thought to wash my hands. im actually a pretty smart guy, just dumber than hell when it comes to some simple tasks, kinda like rain man or something.

[G-1000]

STEP 1: Remove all jewelry.
STEP 2: Adjust water to a comfortable temperature.
STEP 3: Holding hands above the level of the elbows, wet hands thoroughly. Apply soap and clean under each fingernail using a brush.
STEP 4: Beginning at the fingertips, lather and wash with a soft brush or sponge, using a circular motion. Wash between all fingers. Move from fingertips to the elbow of one arm and repeat for the second arm.
STEP 5: Wash using a soft brush or sponge for 3 to 5 minutes (when using alcohol, pour or rub for 2 minutes).
STEP 6: Rinse each arm separately, fingertips first, holding hands above the level of elbows.
STEP 7: Using a separate towel for each hand, wipe from the fingertips to the elbow, and then discard the towel.

[G-1000]

Potential Infections Related to Anabolic Steroid Injection in Young Adolescents

To the Editor.

In their article "Anabolic Steroid Use by Male and Female Middle School Students," Faigenbaum et al1 indicate that 2.7% of middle school students (grades 5 through 7) report anabolic steroid use. Anabolic-androgenic steroids (AS) can be administered orally or intramuscularly; the latter is the route of administration for 50% of AS users.2 It has been indicated previously that 25% of students who report AS use share needles for injection.3 Therefore, this young and relatively uneducated AS user group is potentially at risk for infections related to injection. We conducted a MEDLINE (1966-1998) and AIDSLINE (1980-1998) world literature review to examine references that attributed infections to AS injection.

We found infections attributable to the multi-person use of needles and syringes and improper injection techniques in 11 individuals. None of these cases were among children or younger adolescents. The mean age of these individuals was 25 years (mean, 18-37 years). Three separate cases of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection occurred in male, heterosexual bodybuilders who shared needles that were used for AS injection on multiple occasions.4-6 One of the individuals who was diagnosed with HIV infection also acquired hepatitis B through shared AS needles.4 Two cases of thigh abscesses were discovered in male and female professional weight lifters who injected a veterinary preparation of stanozolol contaminated with Mycobacterium smegmatis.7 Two case reports of staphylococcal gluteal abscesses developed in young bodybuilders 18 and 21 years of age.8 The steroids were injected by other weight lifters who were not trained in sterile injection technique. A staphylococcal abscess occurred in a 24-year-old bodybuilder who reported, for financial reasons, reusing needles on multiple occasions.9 Pectoral and deltoid abscesses were reported in a 20-year-old AS injector who had injected his AS preparation and then returned the needle to the vial to inject into another muscle group.10 The patient was thought to have contaminated his multi-dosage vial with skin flora and subsequently spread the infection.10 A counterfeit AS preparation contaminated with Pseudomonas spp was responsible for a deep gluteal abscess in one AS injector.11 Immune suppression secondary to long-term AS use may have contributed to Candida albicans endophthalmitis in a 24-year-old athlete who reported a 2-year history of injecting AS.12

Serious infections attributable to AS injection have been reported in young adult professional and recreational athletes. Many of these young adult athletes appeared to have limited education about sterile injection technique and limited access to sterile needles and syringes. It is doubtful that adolescent middle school students have better education or easier access to needles and syringes. Although a harm reduction model may be appropriate for older athletes with a longer history of use, it is of paramount importance to encourage adolescents to abstain from AS use and injection. Intervention strategies to lower the intent to use AS among adolescents should include education regarding the potential infectious complications related to injection. Further studies that examine the prevalence and incidence of blood-borne pathogens and behavioral studies of the injection practices among AS users are needed.

[LatinoPR]

STEP 1: Remove all jewelry.
STEP 2: Adjust water to a comfortable temperature.
STEP 3: Holding hands above the level of the elbows, wet hands thoroughly. Apply soap and clean under each fingernail using a brush.
STEP 4: Beginning at the fingertips, lather and wash with a soft brush or sponge, using a circular motion. Wash between all fingers. Move from fingertips to the elbow of one arm and repeat for the second arm.
STEP 5: Wash using a soft brush or sponge for 3 to 5 minutes (when using alcohol, pour or rub for 2 minutes).
STEP 6: Rinse each arm separately, fingertips first, holding hands above the level of elbows.
STEP 7: Using a separate towel for each hand, wipe from the fingertips to the elbow, and then discard the towel.

It is not a surgycal procedure Bro.. ,is a simple injection,......just wash your hands with a good soap and warm water.....simple.





LPR...dermatology.

[G-1000]

http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/articles/Fun+with+Steroids

I will scrub thank you

[LatinoPR]

Potential Infections Related to Anabolic Steroid Injection in Young Adolescents

To the Editor.

In their article "Anabolic Steroid Use by Male and Female Middle School Students," Faigenbaum et al1 indicate that 2.7% of middle school students (grades 5 through 7) report anabolic steroid use. Anabolic-androgenic steroids (AS) can be administered orally or intramuscularly; the latter is the route of administration for 50% of AS users.2 It has been indicated previously that 25% of students who report AS use share needles for injection.3 Therefore, this young and relatively uneducated AS user group is potentially at risk for infections related to injection. We conducted a MEDLINE (1966-1998) and AIDSLINE (1980-1998) world literature review to examine references that attributed infections to AS injection.

We found infections attributable to the multi-person use of needles and syringes and improper injection techniques in 11 individuals. None of these cases were among children or younger adolescents. The mean age of these individuals was 25 years (mean, 18-37 years). Three separate cases of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection occurred in male, heterosexual bodybuilders who shared needles that were used for AS injection on multiple occasions.4-6 One of the individuals who was diagnosed with HIV infection also acquired hepatitis B through shared AS needles.4 Two cases of thigh abscesses were discovered in male and female professional weight lifters who injected a veterinary preparation of stanozolol contaminated with Mycobacterium smegmatis.7 Two case reports of staphylococcal gluteal abscesses developed in young bodybuilders 18 and 21 years of age.8 The steroids were injected by other weight lifters who were not trained in sterile injection technique. A staphylococcal abscess occurred in a 24-year-old bodybuilder who reported, for financial reasons, reusing needles on multiple occasions.9 Pectoral and deltoid abscesses were reported in a 20-year-old AS injector who had injected his AS preparation and then returned the needle to the vial to inject into another muscle group.10 The patient was thought to have contaminated his multi-dosage vial with skin flora and subsequently spread the infection.10 A counterfeit AS preparation contaminated with Pseudomonas spp was responsible for a deep gluteal abscess in one AS injector.11 Immune suppression secondary to long-term AS use may have contributed to Candida albicans endophthalmitis in a 24-year-old athlete who reported a 2-year history of injecting AS.12

Serious infections attributable to AS injection have been reported in young adult professional and recreational athletes. Many of these young adult athletes appeared to have limited education about sterile injection technique and limited access to sterile needles and syringes. It is doubtful that adolescent middle school students have better education or easier access to needles and syringes. Although a harm reduction model may be appropriate for older athletes with a longer history of use, it is of paramount importance to encourage adolescents to abstain from AS use and injection. Intervention strategies to lower the intent to use AS among adolescents should include education regarding the potential infectious complications related to injection. Further studies that examine the prevalence and incidence of blood-borne pathogens and behavioral studies of the injection practices among AS users are needed.

Realy good post Bro.....thanks...!!!






LPR....dermatology.

[Phreak101]

NO...it's not Hydrogen Peroxide.,,it is Povidone Iodine USP 10% and is an Antiseptic that we use for preparation of the skin for surgery,you don't have a surgery,you just have an intramuscular injection that with the correct use of alcohol and a good aniseptics technics should be enough,including washing your hands FIRST !!!....Hydrogen Peroxide is not an Antiseptic......btw dont use it as alcohol......







LPR...dermatology.

Now THIS is helpful, so HP should not be used to clean the skin as an alternative to alcohol?

[Dangerdan]

It is not a surgycal procedure Bro.. ,is a simple injection,......just wash your hands with a good soap and warm water.....simple.





LPR...dermatology.

I agree.




DRD...lifting

[G-1000]

I use Dial antibacterial liqued hand soap.

[LatinoPR]

Now THIS is helpful, so HP should not be used to clean the skin as an alternative to alcohol?

I don't recomend it,...use a comon isopropyl rubbing alcohol USP 70%,it is cheap anyways...but again,wash your hands FIRST.






LPR.

[LatinoPR]

I use Dial antibacterial liqued hand soap.

That one is what we used in my clinic as a regular soap.






LPR.....dermatology.

[perfectbeast2001]

STEP 1: Remove all jewelry.
STEP 2: Adjust water to a comfortable temperature.
STEP 3: Holding hands above the level of the elbows, wet hands thoroughly. Apply soap and clean under each fingernail using a brush.
STEP 4: Beginning at the fingertips, lather and wash with a soft brush or sponge, using a circular motion. Wash between all fingers. Move from fingertips to the elbow of one arm and repeat for the second arm.
STEP 5: Wash using a soft brush or sponge for 3 to 5 minutes (when using alcohol, pour or rub for 2 minutes).
STEP 6: Rinse each arm separately, fingertips first, holding hands above the level of elbows.
STEP 7: Using a separate towel for each hand, wipe from the fingertips to the elbow, and then discard the towel.

Do you have obsessive compulsive disorder like me?

[novastepp]

just curious, what do you do if you have a small localized infection?
what antibiotics would you need?

[Phreak101]

just curious, what do you do if you have a small localized infection?
what antibiotics would you need?

Bomb it with a packet of Zithromax (6 pills done in 5 days), VERY strong.

If that does not work, try a more localized one like Amoxicillin for 14 days, should knock it out.

[novastepp]

Bomb it with a packet of Zithromax (6 pills done in 5 days), VERY strong.

If that does not work, try a more localized one like Amoxicillin for 14 days, should knock it out.

prescription or OTC???

[Phreak101]

prescription or OTC???

Those are always prescription, but next time you're in Mexico or Canada you can pick up quite a bit of both for very cheap. I bought all my painkillers, muscle relaxers, and anti-biotics at the Cancun airport of all places!

You can also buy them from Candian online pharmacies, but you've seen the markup on .com sites for AAS, same BS applies for AB's.

[Schmidty]

I had to take my sister to the er a few weeks ago and i stole a few of these soap pumps they have on the walls all over the place.Its like moose for your hair but its alcohol

[Schmidty]

I had to take my sister to the er a few weeks ago and i stole a few of these soap pumps they have on the walls all over the place.Its like moose for your hair but its alcohol

Ots a combination of soap and alcohol i think ill check when i go back to my house

[novastepp]

is there anything you can take that is OTC or that you can find online for a reasonable price?

[Schmidty]

is there anything you can take that is OTC or that you can find online for a reasonable price?

SOAP-but i think u might need a script.LOL

Scratch that i did not read the posts u made befor that.Sorry for the smart ass comment

[DNoMac]

http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/articles/Fun+with+Steroids

I will scrub thank you

It said it was bunk gear, same effect as an infection?