Do your shins bleed while deadlifting

[stunner5000pt]

I know some of you drag the bar along your shins, and some of you dont

what are your opinions for and against that practice?

[Hackamaniac]

Never happened to myself..

[Superhuman]

i think that if you use proper form and go nice and slow (bbing style) then you should never scrape your shins. If you try to go heavier than you can handle then you probably are

[Superhuman]

occasionally i'll get really bad bruises but no blood

[THE_DOME]

i dont but then again i never go abouve 400

[SVTMuscle*]

i'm a bleeder!

[Doc.Sust]

if you arent keeping the bar as close to your shins as possible, you are doing the lift wrong.throw a little baby powdr on your legs before you do the lift and it cuts down on friction. or(and i dont like this because i think it adds more friction, so i dont do this)where high socks or throw a strip of duct tape on your shins

[peteroy01]

i found out quick(after 3times lol) to wear loose workout pants. they slide up with the weight, so ur like steve erkel in the up position.

[helium3]

never scrape shins period.

[*Narkissos*]

if you arent keeping the bar as close to your shins as possible, you are doing the lift wrong.

Wrong for absolute strength.. or wrong for hypertrophy?

I know you and i are in different fields...that's why i asked

Personally for me.. even when pulling over 500 lbs for reps the bar never touches my shins. It's close.. yes, but it never touches.

[needmorestrength]

Wrong for absolute strength.. or wrong for hypertrophy?

I know you and i are in different fields...that's why i asked

Personally for me.. even when pulling over 500 lbs for reps the bar never touches my shins. It's close.. yes, but it never touches.

I think theres a lot of differing theories out there. I was taught to touch

[Carlos_E]

It never touches me either.

[godkilla]

my shins look like hamburger

[collar]

it never touches my shins, proper form i dont see why they should touch

[doctadank]

its not my shins, but right above my kneecaps is where the bar hits sometimes and causes them to bleed. ****ing painful shit

[Carlos_E]

umm... wear nylon pants

[stunner5000pt]

Wrong for absolute strength.. or wrong for hypertrophy?

I know you and i are in different fields...that's why i asked

Personally for me.. even when pulling over 500 lbs for reps the bar never touches my shins. It's close.. yes, but it never touches.

yes i would like to see further discussion on this...

whats the diff

whats the diff between a 'bodybuilder' deadlift and a 'powerlifter' deadlift

[Haro3]

they definately touch me...but im 6' but then again my old training partner was like 5'7 and his didnt touch at all....so i dont know if its a height issue or what

[DSM4Life]

I am 5'7 and i touch. I was always taught to keep the bar as close as possible. The last thing i am worried about when pulling that heavy @$$ weight up is if my shins are going to get bo bo's .

[*Narkissos*]

yes i would like to see further discussion on this...

whats the diff

whats the diff between a 'bodybuilder' deadlift and a 'powerlifter' deadlift

focus maybe?

powerlifting deadlift: hip dominant.. focus on absolute strength development?

bodybuilding deadlift: focus on specific overload?

e.g. My deadlift.. tho relatively heavy, once reviewed isn't standard.

It's more akin to a stiff-leg deadlift. I use it to overload hams namely. My focus is on ham development. I don't drop my glutes. I use a bent-knee position...locking myself into that position: very little knee flexion tru-out. The negative is definately stiff-legged. The positive iniated by an explosive ham contraction..followed by glute contraction...ended by erector/trap contractions. Quad contraction is static... as opposed to dynamic like the standard deadlift would be.

Tonight i pulled 545 lbs for 2.

Nark

[Schmidty]

I only do reps so i use really good form because i have heard of people ****in ther back up not usin perfect form

[*Narkissos*]

^^that has nothing to do with reps

That has to do with them using bad form.

I'm sure Doc Sust would agree that injury is more likely with higher rep deads than low..because form loosens as the set progresses..and fatigue sets in.

[kloter1]

never happend

[zodiac666]

Tonight i pulled 545 lbs for 2. Nark

awesome weight for a bodybuilder

[stunner5000pt]

^^that has nothing to do with reps

That has to do with them using bad form.

I'm sure Doc Sust would agree that injury is more likely with higher rep deads than low..because form loosens as the set progresses..and fatigue sets in.

ill do reps for the warm up sets and those weeks where i have to do maybe 60% of my max

otherwise its singles or doubles maybe triples

[stunner5000pt]

focus maybe?

powerlifting deadlift: hip dominant.. focus on absolute strength development?

bodybuilding deadlift: focus on specific overload?

e.g. My deadlift.. tho relatively heavy, once reviewed isn't standard.

It's more akin to a stiff-leg deadlift. I use it to overload hams namely. My focus is on ham development. I don't drop my glutes. I use a bent-knee position...locking myself into that position: very little knee flexion tru-out. The negative is definately stiff-legged. The positive iniated by an explosive ham contraction..followed by glute contraction...ended by erector/trap contractions. Quad contraction is static... as opposed to dynamic like the standard deadlift would be.

Tonight i pulled 545 lbs for 2.

Nark

couldnt we just get ham development from stiff leg deadlifts exclusively??

although i have tried the way DLing the you say and it feels different

[UpstateTank]

i get bruiiiiiises

[chest6]

Tonight i pulled 545 lbs for 2.

Nark

ahh..uve caught me..time to speed up..

Wrong for absolute strength.. or wrong for hypertrophy?

I know you and i are in different fields...that's why i asked

Personally for me.. even when pulling over 500 lbs for reps the bar never touches my shins. It's close.. yes, but it never touches.

I think I should just have "ditto" copy and pasted to reply to your posts


so..
Ditto..

[Tein]

they definately touch me...but im 6' but then again my old training partner was like 5'7 and his didnt touch at all....so i dont know if its a height issue or what

I'm 6'2 and have some long ass legs, I find them hard to do without scraping my shins at least a little unless stiff legged.

[C_Bino]

Never have I touched my legs while doing deadlifts.

[*Narkissos*]

awesome weight for a bodybuilder

Thanks...Honestly i train cus i love it. Functional strength is a big part of it for me. I don't think any of my thoughts on training actually fall into the category of mainstream bodybuilding..so i seldom discuss 'em.

My maintenance weight used to be 500 lbs. (that'd be the lowest i'd pull on any workset even while cutting). But i did a short DNP run and that affected all my lifts. Months later i'm still trying to regain what would've been my maintenance strength (i.e. the lightest i'd go for a workset at any point in time). It's been a struggle. That shit is poison.

couldnt we just get ham development from stiff leg deadlifts exclusively??

Yes and no. I don't really see people pushing themselves on SLDLs cus most see it as a complimentary stretching movement... leg-curls being the basis of the leg-routine. They see it as an isolatary exercise... while technically it isn't. Yes it more ham-dominant than Standard DLs.. but it is still a multi-joint exercise. So yea you can get great hams if you revise the perception of the exercise...and put more effort into it.

I think however the potential for overload is greater with a modified DL.. A hybrid... Like what i use. Think about it. Slight Bent knee drive on the positive...Locked position on the negative.. means you'll be able to drive more weight off the ground on the positive..and it'll be more taxing on the negative...

Nark

[novastepp]

Thanks...Honestly i train cus i love it. Functional strength is a big part of it for me. I don't think any of my thoughts on training actually fall into the category of mainstream bodybuilding..so i seldom discuss 'em.

My maintenance weight used to be 500 lbs. (that'd be the lowest i'd pull on any workset even while cutting). But i did a short DNP run and that affected all my lifts. Months later i'm still trying to regain what would've been my maintenance strength (i.e. the lightest i'd go for a workset at any point in time). It's been a struggle. That shit is poison.



Yes and no. I don't really see people pushing themselves on SLDLs cus most see it as a complimentary stretching movement... leg-curls being the basis of the leg-routine. They see it as an isolatary exercise... while technically it isn't. Yes it more ham-dominant than Standard DLs.. but it is still a multi-joint exercise. So yea you can get great hams if you revise the perception of the exercise...and put more effort into it.

I think however the potential for overload is greater with a modified DL.. A hybrid... Like what i use. Think about it. Slight Bent knee drive on the positive...Locked position on the negative.. means you'll be able to drive more weight off the ground on the positive..and it'll be more taxing on the negative...

Nark

awesome explanation on the modified DL there at the end Nark, thanks.

[*Narkissos*]

np

I think in reviewing the thread that common factor with regard to scraping or not may be height

I think generally the guys under 5'10" are less likely to scrape shins

Bumping this for Doc.

Doc?

[fLgAtOr]

np

I think in reviewing the thread that common factor with regard to scraping or not may be height

I think generally the guys under 5'10" are less likely to scrape shins

Bumping this for Doc.

Doc?

Tahts what I was going to ask...I'm 6'2" and always scrape.

My old WO partner had a PL background and always did sumo style...he said becuase of his height (6'3").

[chest6]

Im 6'2" and I dont scrape...hm..?

[Hellmaskbanned]

I'm 6'5'' and don't do dead lifts
lol

[chest6]

why not!?!?

[tightprop]

my shins bleed like crazy, but it matches nicely with my collection of shoulder stretch marks and the occasional torn calosse...

[Schmidty]

my shins bleed like crazy, but it matches nicely with my collection of shoulder stretch marks and the occasional torn calosse...

I got awsome strech marks every where.chest shoulder bis back quads traps calves.they are awsome they look like lightening bolts.

[Doc.Sust]

^^that has nothing to do with reps

That has to do with them using bad form.

I'm sure Doc Sust would agree that injury is more likely with higher rep deads than low..because form loosens as the set progresses..and fatigue sets in.

totaly agree,never more than 5-6reps